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Message started by Josh Talley on 10/27/14 at 15:34:19

Title: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/27/14 at 15:34:19

so this is my second post. Last one I got a lot of help and it was much appreciated. I recently bought bought a 1987 savage. I got it really cheap understanding that it needed a clutch assembly, a rear break cover and a new pet thingy. So I got them all installed and tried to start it and got nothing. It has a brand new battery. I'm thinking I got myself into more than I can handle. Honestly I don't even know where to start. So any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated. When I  hit the start button I get absolutely nothing..

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Serowbot on 10/27/14 at 15:40:19

Ignition key set to "ON",... sidestand up,... Gear in neutral,.. hold in clutch... red switch on right handlebar flipped down...
Hit starter button...

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/27/14 at 15:45:07

Honestly I don't remember lifting the side stand. I hope that's the problem, that would make my day. I'll try agin when I get home and I'll post the verdict.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/27/14 at 20:08:33

Get it in neutral,, makes it a little easier for the starter.
And do all the stuff Row said.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/28/14 at 08:24:10

I knew it couldn't be that easy. Still get absolutely nothing when I hit the start button

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Serowbot on 10/28/14 at 08:45:03

Okay,.. Check your battery for voltage...
...Check fuses (2 under the right side of the seat)...use an ohmmeter, don't trust yer' eyeballs)...
...Check your battery connections, and ground strap (behind the clutch actuator, on the right rear of the engine...

It should be one of those...

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by verslagen1 on 10/28/14 at 08:46:00

I would check the starter 1st
jump the battery to the starter to see if it turns, make sure it's in neutral unless you need a new front end.

if it works, check the relay, pull off the seat, pull back the rubber cover and jump 2 terms... I forget which ones, there's gonna be a big 1 from the battery and 1 to the starter, then 2 small ones.  You can jump the 2 big ones same doing the previous test. 1 from the bat to 1 of the small ones should activate the relay.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Serowbot on 10/28/14 at 08:48:55

By "nothing" I assumed you have nothing...
...do your lights work when you turn on the ignition key?... :-?... if you do,.. ignore my post and follow Versy's troubleshoot...

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/28/14 at 08:51:03

Yes the lights work but when I hit The starter button that's whenn I get nothing not even a click.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by verslagen1 on 10/28/14 at 09:03:20

If you're not even getting a click, then it's probably one of the safeties, or a dirty start button.
I'd get a volt meter and check each one out.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/28/14 at 09:09:44

That's what I'll do, I'll get a volt meter and go from there and let you guys know what I find.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 10/28/14 at 09:19:12

When it's in neutral the light will not go on. Could that be part of the problem with the neutral safety

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by verslagen1 on 10/28/14 at 09:20:57


15302C37313E33283E262C5F0 wrote:
When it's in neutral the light will not go on. Could that be part of the problem with the neutral safety

yep, check that 1st.
could be the diode bridge has gone bad.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by runwyrlph on 10/28/14 at 17:46:27


4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
Ignition key set to "ON",... sidestand up,... Gear in neutral,.. hold in clutch... red switch on right handlebar flipped down...
Hit starter button...


And make absolutely sure you're doing all of the above. Sometimes people forget to pull the clutch in.  Don't ask me how I know...

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by old_rider on 10/29/14 at 08:49:17

Not to throw a wrench in (follow what the guys are saying first)...but an idea maybe... what about the electrical connection under the tank everyone says comes loose now and then? maybe?

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 11/05/14 at 12:46:51

So I finally got an electrical tester. Never used one so I thought I would get advice before using it. So if anyone could tell me where to start and what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by stewmills on 11/05/14 at 14:07:45


41647863656A677C6A72780B0 wrote:
So if anyone could tell me where to start and what to do would be greatly appreciated.


Sorry...I'd be better telling you how to use the toy in the background than the tester.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Yoshi on 11/05/14 at 15:42:29

put it on ohms and test the fuses

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 11/05/14 at 15:47:17

Trust me I did. Wish that was the problem

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/14 at 15:51:13


02273B202629243F29313B480 wrote:
So I finally got an electrical tester. Never used one so I thought I would get advice before using it. So if anyone could tell me where to start and what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Black to ground red to whatever you're testing.
The battery + terminal will show volts.
don't do that with amps or ohms or you'll be buying a new tester.
Reading the manual should give you the basics.
testing a lightbulb, use ohms between the two terminals.
you'll rarely use Amps.

If you want something more specific, ask.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Josh Talley on 11/05/14 at 15:56:00

I don't have a manual cause I had to barrow it. From what I understand using the ohm I disconnect the battery first but does it matter which wire I put where. I'm sure I can figure it out when I do it tomorrow but thought I'd ask you guys first.

Title: Re: Won't start
Post by Yoshi on 11/05/14 at 16:31:39

ohms gives you a resistance reading
for example

say your testing a switch

you put the red pron on one side of the switch and the black prong on the other side of the switch
now you wont get a beep when the switch is off but as soon as its on itll make a complete connection so the meter will beep, if the meet dosent beep your switch is no good

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