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Message started by hoopy on 10/02/14 at 13:32:46

Title: Newly purchased project bike
Post by hoopy on 10/02/14 at 13:32:46

I've just bought this bike for £100. It's a 94. Needs a bit of work as you can see. Amongst some minor stuff it needs a couple of major parts. New gearbox and clutch. Any help would be appreciated. I'm UK based so trouble finding parts here.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by hoopy on 10/02/14 at 13:35:34

Another thought. Does anyone know or has anyone put another engine in one of these. Straight swap? I mean an engine and gearbox that fits without messing. Obviously that is another option. Thanks in advance

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by jcstokes on 10/02/14 at 14:05:06

You don't have that many choices. You will probably have to web search as many UK motorcycle wreckers as you possibly can. You can check the market place section of the forum. It must be pointed out that some sellers will be reluctant to ship outside USA and Canada and you will have to factor in shipping. Another alternative is to search USA based motorcycle wreckers, particularly on the east coast. You shouldn't have to pay too much for a complete engine and gearbox, which may well be the way to go. Professional wreckers will probably be better geared to accept international payments rather than individuals, and will also have shipping contacts. People here may be able to help you work out the weight of an engine and gearbox, and you can work on dimensions.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by gizzo on 10/02/14 at 14:07:33

Nice project, frood. Hope you know where your towel is ;). An engine swap would be a big job but doable. For me though, the big single is part of the charm of the bike. I've actually measured up to see if the Savage engine would fit mt Enfield C GT frame. Yes it will. And would turn that bike into a ton up machine I think. Great engine. Seems to be plenty of Savage stuff available in the states, it's just the insanely expensive shipping from US to consider. Good luck mate.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by verslagen1 on 10/02/14 at 14:50:01

The gear box and clutch are the least likely parts to go south on ya.
Since you've got the stator cover off, perhaps you mean starter clutch and maybe the case? Because on pre '95 models (we don't have '89 thru '94 in the states) don't have a starter torque limiter and can bust teeth and blow out the bosses on the case.

Is that about right?

There is a LS400 that's a direct swap. Don't know if it's available in UK though.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by Demin on 10/03/14 at 05:10:21

All year Savage engines interchange.Just have to use the charging system from your year.I put an '05 engine in an '87 frame.Used all the '87 electrics.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by Yoshi on 10/03/14 at 17:17:28

If you were closer I'd sell you my motor as I have a good bottom half of a 1987 motor

Shipping would be a pregnant dog tho..

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Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by cigarandcoffeeman on 10/04/14 at 09:13:37

Hey pal not bad for 100 quid!

Hope you dont mind me asking were are you in the uk?

i had a 650 a while back now have a 400 im rebuilding, i dont have any engine parts, but do have some bodywork/odd bits if you need anything...

mike

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by hoopy on 10/04/14 at 11:32:13

I'm north Manchester.oozing forward to starting but need this gear box. I take it from comments a gear box from any year will bolt on to this no problem?

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by Ed L. on 10/05/14 at 06:25:52

Yes, Any gear box will fit but you will need the correct wire harness for the swap. A 4 speed wire harness is different than a 5 speed harness and they are not interchangable.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by verslagen1 on 10/05/14 at 09:04:27

22232B2F28460 wrote:

All year Savage engines interchange.Just have to use the charging system from your year.I put an '05 engine in an '87 frame.Used all the '87 electrics.

In most cases, all you have to do is swap the rotor.
there is a change in where the TDC indicator is between new and old that'll throw off the timing.
The stator wiring should be the same.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/14 at 11:30:24

there is a change in where the TDC indicator is between new and old that'll throw off the timing.

Hmmm Boy! That right there is a Nugget!
How would a fella go about compensating for that?
Is it just the mark,, hmm,, I thot the mark was on the crank and the other one a groove in the aluminum side cover,, Howzat work Versy?

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by verslagen1 on 10/05/14 at 11:33:57

2B343235282F1E2E1E26343873410 wrote:

Howzat work Versy?

Use the rotor the came the magic sh!t box and it's fixed.

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/14 at 11:43:06

AHH! So, the mark isnt on the crank,, gotchyaz,,

Title: Re: Newly purchased project bike
Post by jcstokes on 10/12/14 at 00:46:22

If you get absolutely stuck, it may be possible to graft in a Yamaha TT500 engine. This may or may not have the horsepower of the S40/Savage engine. Go to www.trademe.co.nz and type reference 792611126 into the search bar. This proves it can be done? Note the chain conversion. Don't ask me how or why it was done.