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Message started by Yoshi on 08/31/14 at 20:33:05

Title: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 08/31/14 at 20:33:05

Went to Connecticut today to pick it up!
Cant wait to get it running tomorrow only 9k miles!

http://https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10636917_10152337662083870_4129479696437515169_o.jpg

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Seaweednh on 08/31/14 at 20:38:34

I bet this is the one from Craigs list that was first listed a month ago. Hasn't run in years, $650 or best offer? If I were working I would have bought it myself.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by polarpilot on 09/01/14 at 08:27:39

Great find if the price was good - the early Savages had exposed springs on the front forks which I thought were terrific looking. To bad they now are covered with Gators.

How about some more pictures of the whole bike?

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Demin on 09/01/14 at 13:02:00

The LS Savage has never had exposed springs.They are the same from '86 on. :-/

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/01/14 at 18:03:34

Well bad news, the tops shot, exhaust valve inside the head, resting ontop of the piston

Good news tho, I found a verslavy tensioner inside :)

http://https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10593109_10152338959588870_5727865899307381413_n.jpg?oh=41a6f27b9cfe168e4e0abcec8de6aeca&oe=547CC847&__gda__=1417373752_aa202e5ce44c1a5d499e25b3854e5431

Who needs parts and what parts do you need, pm me!

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by jcstokes on 09/02/14 at 03:51:52

I'm not sure that is a Verslavy as there is no slot and roll plug in the tensioner body, same principle, but nothing to stop things falling out. It must be conceded that by the time things do fall out the insides of the chain could be meeting each other.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by verslagen1 on 09/02/14 at 07:05:06

correct, not a verslavy.... just a slavy mod.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/02/14 at 19:51:39

looks like its only gonna need 1 exhaust valve!

http://https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15669_10152342289213870_2597364743890777733_n.jpg?oh=bd37c5d84a3d9be5dd7435ed0ea57589&oe=547C132D&__gda__=1416968208_d5f451cf06e9e609e6d4ea95142cc193

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Dave on 09/03/14 at 04:43:35

Well.....if the valves are affordable I would be tempted to replace them both. Whatever caused one to fail.....most likely had some affect on the other one.

Any indication what made it fail? Doesn't look like is was running lean or got too hot.

Dave

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/03/14 at 16:18:43

The header and muffler are really blue says the bike was running lean..or just idled without being cooled

You think the piston is okay like that?

The cylinder walls have no scratches!

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Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by HondaLavis on 09/03/14 at 22:58:23

It looks to me like it indents down into the top ring gap. You already have it off and opened up; no sense in not replacing it.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by old_rider on 09/04/14 at 01:04:04

IF , you can get that ring out of there.... file it till a new one fits, make sure the piston is a true circle and not oblonged there.
But yeah, while you have it off, new valves and piston.... if walls are good, you could rebuild with ease.
Find someone with good piston and exhaust valves...... get it running and resell if you don't want to keep it. ;) :)

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/04/14 at 02:30:21

Exactly what Im looking for but prices forthese parts are crazy!

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by jcstokes on 09/04/14 at 02:42:44

Not sure of my eyes, but do I detect a crack where the valve has met, or is it just a mark?. If it's not cracked I suppose the groove could be cleaned, but if you don't want to spend on a piston you can only crack test and hope.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Dave on 09/04/14 at 03:10:00

You can't use that piston......you need a replacement.

What happened to the head when the valve came off? The valve head had to be bouncing around in there until the engine stopped moving.

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/04/14 at 03:27:36

You guys are right

I need a new complete piston and valve head with complete valves

If I can locate them on the cheap then I'll fix her up but not looking so good right now..

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Dave on 09/04/14 at 06:19:24

Heads come along for $ 250 once or twice a year, and a piston is a $ 50 item. Then the gaskets and other parts will most likely add another $ 100 or so.......$ 400 to fix that engine up. You may well have to wait 6 months or more to find that engine that has a broken starter or transmission shaft, etc.....but has a good piston, cylinder and head.

This is the kind of bike that is ripe for an engine transplant if the chassis is in good shape. Good low mileage 5 speed engines can be had for $ 500 - $ 800.

If this was a bike you wanted to fix and ride yourself and get a cheap bike to ride, you can buy an engine and get a running bike without too much expense. If you were looking to buy a bike and turn it over for some profit.....maybe this one is not a "fixer upper" worth the investment in parts and labor. It is hard to buy broken Savages and make much of a profit on them......as the good running and well maintained bikes don't sell for a lot of money.

Pinwall Cycles in Massillon, OH often has sales and discounts......you might want to contact them and see what they have. (330-880-0715). About a year ago I got a 2006 engine with 2,700 miles for $ 520, and they were able to ship it for $ 60. (I would have had to pay $ 30 in taxes if I drove 4 hours to go pick it up!).

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/04/14 at 07:08:04

Thanks Dave. You are a great support on this forum!
I already have a good running 2002, I picked this bike up cause I got it for the right price.
I guess I'll take this bike, strip it and sell it. I mean someone has to need the parts that are still good on this bike..

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by jcstokes on 09/04/14 at 12:35:05

If you have the storage, you have a lot of good spares, in case of a drop or similar

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by old_rider on 09/04/14 at 14:35:26

Ebay or Craigslist in your area...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-Suzuki-LS-650-P-Savage-Engine-Motor-gearbox-6700-miles-30-day-warranty-/201160343664?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ed6174070&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Just picked up a 87 Savage
Post by Yoshi on 09/04/14 at 19:13:51

Thank you, I just messaged the seller ;-)

If something like this goes thru Im gonna rat rod this bike big time!