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Message started by rshong16 on 08/30/14 at 06:54:15

Title: well my savage is pretty much dead now!!!
Post by rshong16 on 08/30/14 at 06:54:15

Got the worst luck ever not only do my starter and clutch gear get chewed my casing where the smaller gear sits the casing busted!!! Well parting the bike out now or sell complete!!

Won't let me upload pics!!

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/14 at 07:29:19

Maaan ,atsa louzee deeel,dude. BUT! .None of that stuff costs a lot AND it's easy to do. The question I have is HOWCUM all that happened. I'm guessing it's a year model that doesn't have the kickback clutch,But why would the case get it? Before you throw in the towel,wait for the people who have been in there and replaced those gears.

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Post by Demin on 08/30/14 at 07:52:03

Going through that right now with my '87.It is starter kickback.I got lucky,judt broke a tooth off of the starter.And it was stuck to flywheel.

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Post by rshong16 on 08/30/14 at 08:05:44

Its $270 for the 2 gears I need and where the smaller gear mounts in the casing broke if it would let me upload pics I could show u!!

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Post by Demin on 08/30/14 at 09:45:48

Put your pics in a site like. www.bikepics.com

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Post by Jeff71 on 08/30/14 at 12:54:51

Well if you want to sell the gas tank and rear wheel, let me know! :)
Jeff

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Post by rshong16 on 08/30/14 at 17:09:16

Cracked part of casing!!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k163/ilovecaitlin16/Mobile%20Uploads/3.jpg

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Post by rshong16 on 08/30/14 at 17:18:01

How much u thinking for the two? And I have a pretty much brand new set of white walls!! Maybe 200 miles!! $140 for the set!! Here's the bike!!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k163/ilovecaitlin16/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140713_181606_982.jpg

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Post by Jsud04 on 08/30/14 at 19:47:55

Did this happened on shut down or start up?

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Post by Steve H on 08/30/14 at 20:42:36

Clean it up good. Put the pin in the hole. JB it up real good to give lots of support. Let it cure good. Reassemble. Ride.

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Post by rshong16 on 08/31/14 at 07:03:12

I ran out of gas and it didn't sound good when it was dying out but when I went to start it, it was a really bad grinding noise!!

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Post by rshong16 on 08/31/14 at 07:04:22

I can't just jb weld it!!

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Post by Jsud04 on 08/31/14 at 07:19:48

Well, first off I don't understand what happend... It stalled due to running out of gas so I am going to assume it was being throttled at the time and the rpms were up, this would throw more momentum into the mix, causing a bigger kick back and thus the busted gears. It should have shuddered or given some warning as to needing to stop... But if it had momentum it should a over come the compression... Put a manual decomp on for strutting down it relieves the compression and dont run it dry...

It looks like the only piece the broke was the collar holding the pin. Take it to a machine shop. They should be able to fill that spot and then drill it leaving behind a collar...and if they reenforce it there will be no worries...

I just can't imaging that the MAJORITY of late models have broken gears. It must be fairly isolated...remember that this site condenses in gative info...

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Post by rshong16 on 08/31/14 at 08:30:35

That sounds like a great idea for sure but I don't have $260 to spend on the gears and it not be able to hold where the guy fixed the case if I can get some one to do it!! I think I'm just gonna part it out or sell it and save for something new!!

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Post by Demin on 08/31/14 at 09:02:37

No...It's not an isolated incident.It's fairly common on the 4 speed bikes.I just posted at the top of this thread,I'm going through the same thing.I got lucky it only broke a tooth off of my starter.

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Post by Steve H on 08/31/14 at 10:37:20

There are some pics on this site where someone had JB'd it and it worked. not saying it's the best solution. But, that stuff is strong.

I hate to see anyone having problems like that. It makes you want to ride that much more knowing that you can't.

I mentioned the JB cause I had seen it on here and cause I watched my brother patch a 2x3 inch hole in the crankcase of a 2-stroke with it. Everybody told him it'll never work with all the pressure and vacuum alternating in there. He rode the bike for 5 or 6 years and sold it to someone else. Last we heard, it had held up for 15 years.
I don't know that I have that much trust it that stuff either.

I wish you the best of luck with your problem. Hope you get it sorted soon and without too much of a cost.

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Post by gizzo on 08/31/14 at 16:12:35

6362797E7F762027110 wrote:

I can't just jb weld it!!

Mine's JB welded back together and has been going for years like that. It was done by a PO, I spotted it when I was fixing an oil leak, looked good and I put it back together. No problem and better than trashing an otherwise good bike. IMO. OK it's not the best engineering solution but since it works, I could care less.

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Post by atrent on 09/02/14 at 18:43:07

Hey mine was jb welded too when I looked at it :/