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Message started by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 07:17:05

Title: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 07:17:05

I bought an '02 Savage stock, it has about 15k miles on it. I have a non heated garage to do work in. My wrenching level is zero, however I do fix printers and copiers for a living so i'm good at following instructions and reading diagrams. I live in northern Indiana so it gets a tad cold in the winter, so i'm wondering if i should leave jetting the carbs till the spring? Anyway here is the list of things i would like to do to my bike over the winter months, please let me know if i'm going to bite off more then i can chew.

1. Broken things:
* The horn does not work, i'd like to replace it with a 125db one if possible, but first i need to break out the multi meter to see whats wrong in the first place.
* I am missing a screw that hold the brake line bracket into the front fender, need to get one of those.

2. General Maintenance:
* Oil change (do that in the spring right?)
* Change the brake fluid (because i want to?)
* Cleaning and polishing. i have some blue on the pipes i want to remove plus a general chrome polish is in order.
* Replace spark plug, because its $11 and why not.

3. Tuning/upgrades. I live at about 600ft above sea level and i get back firing and blue on the pipes:
* Remove that brass plug and use the set screw.
* replace the stock air filter with a K&N high flow version
* replace the exhaust
* clean the carbs
* rejet the carbs. I should do this in the spring as close to riding season as possible right?


4. Cosmetic
* remove gas tank to have a body shop beat the dents out/paint it
* replace tail light with LED light
* replace headlight with LED light
* New pegs
* new gel grips

I just want to know if im getting in over my head with all this.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/14 at 07:28:47

oil change before bedtime for bonzo.

Think about checking the cam chain and clutch rod.

And don't worry... you'll have it running before the next oil change.   ;D

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 08:52:18

got ya, also, would installing one of these be hard to do? http://www.amazon.com/SAE-USB-Adapter-Motorcycle-Charger/dp/B007VFFQRE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+to+usb

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 08/18/14 at 09:07:21


536E6564606267676A0B0 wrote:
got ya, also, would installing one of these be hard to do? http://www.amazon.com/SAE-USB-Adapter-Motorcycle-Charger/dp/B007VFFQRE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+to+usb



Wouldn't be hard for me......piece of cake. ;D

If you get one of these to use for your trickle charger....it would be easy for you as well.  The only drawback is - you better remember to disconnect this adapter when the bike is not running, as it won't be connected to a switched plug if you make the connection directly to your battery.

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-081-0069-6-Terminal-Disconnect/dp/B000NCOKZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408378058&sr=8-1&keywords=battery+tender+connector

Dave

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/14 at 09:22:40

While it list compatibility with iphone, don't count on it as found out by another member recently.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/18/14 at 09:26:30

Copier techs are all about electro_mechanical. You're just right for learning about bikes.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Serowbot on 08/18/14 at 09:31:48

- an $11.00 spark plug ain't gonna' do anything that a $3.00 spark plug won't...

- LED lights are iffy... some work good and are really bright, some can't be seen at all in daylight...
...and they're just plain annoying as headlights...

- also,.. get a Raptor petcock (see tech section)...
... and check the timing chain adjuster...

Use Shell Rotella oil... synth or dyno...

How's yer' tires?... Brake pads?...





Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/14 at 10:45:28


5F495E435B4E43582C0 wrote:
...and they're just plain annoying as headlights...

How did you come about this opinion?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 13:32:19


6C7F6869767B7D7F742B1A0 wrote:
While it list compatibility with iphone, don't count on it as found out by another member recently.


I have an android phone.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 13:34:11


7066716C74616C77030 wrote:
- an $11.00 spark plug ain't gonna' do anything that a $3.00 spark plug won't...

- LED lights are iffy... some work good and are really bright, some can't be seen at all in daylight...
...and they're just plain annoying as headlights...

- also,.. get a Raptor petcock (see tech section)...
... and check the timing chain adjuster...

Use Shell Rotella oil... synth or dyno...

How's yer' tires?... Brake pads?...


Tires are fine, front brake is fine, rear brakes squeal a bit. I assume they are like car brakes that need to be changed when they start making noise?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 08/18/14 at 13:41:52

No, rear brakes get squeaky when you need to take them apart and clean them up a bit.  Washing the bike and putting it away wet is not good, or letting it sit where it gets wet.

Take the rear wheel off, clean every thing off, sand the rust off the steel drum and a light sanding off the shoes to remove the glaze, then clean them off.  While you have it apart it never hurts to lube the shaft in the hub.

Dave

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 08/18/14 at 15:45:58


477C7166777B60667D757867140 wrote:
No, rear brakes get squeaky when you need to take them apart and clean them up a bit.  Washing the bike and putting it away wet is not good, or letting it sit where it gets wet.

Take the rear wheel off, clean every thing off, sand the rust off the steel drum and a light sanding off the shoes to remove the glaze, then clean them off.  While you have it apart it never hurts to lube the shaft in the hub.

Dave



rear wheel off. cool.... Anyway the USB was for charging my phone on the go, not sure where the trickle charger comes in?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by 1st2know on 08/18/14 at 19:25:22


15282322262421212C4D0 wrote:
* Replace spark plug, because its $11 and why not.

* rejet the carbs. I should do this in the spring as close to riding season as possible right?


If you're rejetting, expect to go through some spark plugs. I bought a 10-pack for about $25. I went through 4 plugs before I got the carb dialed in. You don't want to rejet with $11 spark plugs.

Rejetting means riding, riding soft, riding hard. You want to do this testing on dry, straight roads. So, yeah, wait for spring, but do take the carb out over the winter, do the white spacer mod, replace the  screws  with hex fasteners, that will make re-jetting a 20 minute job come baseball season. Identify the jets that you have in the carb when you're cleaning the carb, then order 1-2-3 stages up on the main, and at least one stage up on the pilot.

Budget an entire afternoon to flushing & bleeding the brake fluid. It's kind of tricky, and it helps to have three hands.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/18/14 at 20:44:08

Never let the reservoir run out. Repriming it can be a real headache.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/14 at 20:45:43


2B696E287174756D1A0 wrote:
Budget an entire afternoon to flushing & bleeding the brake fluid. It's kind of tricky, and it helps to have three hands.

Well maybe not to a trained hand.
put a tube on the bleeder and put it in a jar.
remove the top on the master.
crack the bleeder then pop the top off a beer.
if you guzzle the beer, you should see the fluid coming out before you finish.  if not, open the bleeder more and open another beer. now it should be flowing good, if not, put your finger over the end of the tube lightly and squeeze the lever...   :-?  ok, brake lever this time.  cap the tube tightly with your finger and release and squeeze again.  once it's flowing wipe your finger off and sip your beer.  Don't let the master suck air, watch the level and let it go down, but fill it before it can suck air.  it will start to suck down a little cone down then refill and keep it full.  Since you're not supposed to keep an open can, buy the small can push it about half to 2/3 thru the can.  That'll clean out the whole system and give you enough to make sure you don't have to open another.

there are speed bleeders and other little devices that make it easier to bleed by putting a one way valve on or in place of the stock bleeder.  but a gravity bleed is easy, just watch the level.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/25/14 at 19:27:28

Update! Bought a dyna muffler, waiting on the end of riding season to install it. diagnosed the horn as "busted all the hell" but the switch and the lines still work, so in another thread im working out if im going to get an OEM horn or go big. did an oil change, not too bad. bought the petcock and am waiting for it to come in from china, so thats cool. really the only big change is i got a corbin seat, the install went okay, took a little banding around here and there but im happy with the looks and im going to take it on a nice ride this weekend and see if i like it. next up is cleaning supplies, i want to give it a nice wash before the winter. whats a good bug remover? i heard something about purple stuff?

pic of the new seat:

http://i.imgur.com/btE66Mi.jpg

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by stewmills on 09/25/14 at 19:46:09

for cleaning (maybe more of a polish) look at pledge multi-surface spray. sounds odd but it works and leaves a smooth surface that deters dirt and bugs from sticking and makes dusting off with a small microfiber cloth a breeze. search the interweb...you'll find folks talking about it.  there are of course more professional products but this is a great and cheaper alternative.


Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 09/26/14 at 03:47:17


172A2120242623232E4F0 wrote:
bought the petcock and am waiting for it to come in from china, so thats cool.


No.....not cool.  The Chinese version has the wrong size fuel outlet, and is of questionable character.  You should have bought the official Yamaha Petcock with the part number 5LP-24500-01-00.  Three out of Four Moderators who chew gum recommend it!

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by runwyrlph on 09/26/14 at 05:19:17


5B666D6C686A6F6F62030 wrote:
diagnosed the horn as "busted all the hell" but the switch and the lines still work, so in another thread im working out if im going to get an OEM horn or go big.


My horn got mashed a bit in my accident, it sorta made a "buzz".  I took it apart and tried to straighten the disc out- acheived a weird "croaking?" sound.  

I got this hornhttp://www.amazon.com/Wolo-260-2T-Volt-Mini-Black/dp/B00029XGAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411733836&sr=8-1&keywords=motorcycle+horn

By itself it's at least as loud as OEM.  I wired it in parallel to the old horn, the high tone combined with the "croak" of the old horn make a pretty good sound.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/26/14 at 06:13:53


Detailed instructions for bleeding the front brake:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1361025600/0#0

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/26/14 at 07:07:45


Quoted from your Work Plan (1st Post):

"Remove that brass plug and use the set screw."

I zoomed in on a picture from your Imgur gallery and it appears that
the brass plug has already been removed.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Arnold on 09/26/14 at 08:29:48

Xeno, where did you get your highway bar? I need a similar bar, gonna try to hang stirrups from it.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/26/14 at 08:32:59

Another picture from your Imgur gallery shows what appear to
be IRC Grand High Speed tires.
Those were original equipment tires on our machines.
If your's are, in fact, the original tires then they are 14 years old
and you should consider replacing them even if the tread is good.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/26/14 at 09:09:13


5F74787066417A7171150 wrote:
Quoted from your Work Plan (1st Post):

"Remove that brass plug and use the set screw."

I zoomed in on a picture from your Imgur gallery and it appears that
the brass plug has already been removed.



Yea i wrote that before i took a look, the screw is open, im still a bit nervous about turning it though.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/26/14 at 09:10:20


576C6176676B70766D656877040 wrote:
[quote author=172A2120242623232E4F0 link=1408371425/15#15 date=1411698448]bought the petcock and am waiting for it to come in from china, so thats cool.


No.....not cool.  The Chinese version has the wrong size fuel outlet, and is of questionable character.  You should have bought the official Yamaha Petcock with the part number 5LP-24500-01-00.  Three out of Four Moderators who chew gum recommend it!

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397[/quote]




crap baskets, so this is the wrong one? http://www.amazon.com/Aitook-AIT-PT2502-Yamaha-Raptor-Petcock/dp/B00EEKMQUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411747850&sr=8-1&keywords=Aitook+AIT-PT2502


and this one is the right one? http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-5LP245000100-Fuel-thingy-Assembly/dp/B004K9I25C

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/26/14 at 09:11:02


42574C4F4F46574651230 wrote:
Xeno, where did you get your highway bar? I need a similar bar, gonna try to hang stirrups from it.



came with the bike, you want it? its hilariously useless in its current setup

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/26/14 at 09:11:40


18333F3721063D3636520 wrote:
Another picture from your Imgur gallery shows what appear to
be IRC Grand High Speed tires.
Those were original equipment tires on our machines.
If your's are, in fact, the original tires then they are 14 years old
and you should consider replacing them even if the tread is good.




yikes, any suggestions on good tires?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Arnold on 09/26/14 at 09:18:07


526F6465616366666B0A0 wrote:
[quote author=42574C4F4F46574651230 link=1408371425/15#21 date=1411745388]Xeno, where did you get your highway bar? I need a similar bar, gonna try to hang stirrups from it.



came with the bike, you want it? its hilariously useless in its current setup[/quote]

Yes, I may be able to use it, how much to ship to zip 10601?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 09/26/14 at 09:21:27


774A4140444643434E2F0 wrote:
[quote author=576C6176676B70766D656877040 link=1408371425/15#17 date=1411728437][quote author=172A2120242623232E4F0 link=1408371425/15#15 date=1411698448]bought the petcock and am waiting for it to come in from china, so thats cool.


No.....not cool.  The Chinese version has the wrong size fuel outlet, and is of questionable character.  You should have bought the official Yamaha Petcock with the part number 5LP-24500-01-00.  Three out of Four Moderators who chew gum recommend it!

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397[/quote]




crap baskets, so this is the wrong one? http://www.amazon.com/Aitook-AIT-PT2502-Yamaha-Raptor-Petcock/dp/B00EEKMQUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411747850&sr=8-1&keywords=Aitook+AIT-PT2502


and this one is the right one? http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-5LP245000100-Fuel-thingy-Assembly/dp/B004K9I25C[/quote]


Yep......you need to spend a bit of money to get the real one.  The Chinese copy has a fuel outlet that is 1/4"....not 5/16".  Although that doesn't sound like much.....a 1/4" diameter tube only has 64% of the flow area of a 5/16" tube.  You can most likely squash the rubber hose down enough to seal if you use a screw type hose clamp....some have done this previously.  We just recommend that you buy and use the correct Yamaha part.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/26/14 at 15:48:34

Regarding tires ....

Go to this thread titled, "tires, tires, tires" :

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1411574006

... and it will be very clear to you  -  
... clear that there is no consensus on what are the "best" tires.

Seriously though, read Dave's post #3 in that thread as a starting point
then do your own research by searching this forum.

But if you share with everyone some details about your riding experience,
your riding style, your typical use of your motorcycle, your expectations,
and your budget then perhaps a few knowledgeable members will give
you some recommendations that make sense without confusing you.

Or ... you may end up starting another TIRE WAR !!

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/14 at 16:15:30

Re: Turning an adjustment screw.
Start by looking carefully at where it is, GEntly close it,keeping Very Careful count of how many turns to close,  its a tiny pointy brass thing, dont do more than fingertip torque, all you wanna do is know how many turns out it is Now, so if you get it running weird, you can find "Square One" and start over,, A little mark with a marker where one end of the slot is for start point is not a bad idea. Adjustment can get in the 1/8th turn kinda department. I went for a ride with a pocket screwdriver. Rode and felt of it, making minute adjustments at stops.. Not often do ya catch me glad to get caught at a red lite..

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/26/14 at 16:19:20


Regarding the Air Bleed Screw ....

Lubricate it with penetrating oil often over a period of 3 or 4 days before
you attempt to turn it. Use a screw driver that fits the slot snugly, don't
force it, and try turning it both directions to free it.
But reserve your strongest efforts (but still gently) for the counter-
clockwise direction just in case it happens to be fully seated on the needle
in its present position.

It it still doesn't turn freely after all of that then post back for help.

The consequences of stripping the threads or buggering the slotted head
are not something you want to deal with.






Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/14 at 16:45:29

And, If ya wanna save some $$$ and still have a Great penetrating oil.
Get a quart of acetone. Mix it 50-50 with transmission fluid. I use a Zoom-Oil container to hold a small amount and have a metal quart can( one of the earlier acetone quarts) pre-mixed and ready to refill the Zoom Oil container. It wont evaporate away too quickly IF you pull the tube out snugly into the fully extended position and keep the red tip on it. It Will lose some acetone over time, but the trans fluid and acetone will seperate  and you can add a dash of acetone when it needs some. Also, if the wife is buying Fingernai; Polish remover in those tiny little bottles that cost $3.00 you can refill that enough times to make the quart not just free, but youll save $$$.
I have a pretty significant sized area on a shelving unit dedicated to lubricants and penetrants. Ive had this shop for , Im thinking about 5 yeaars.. To the best of my knowledge there has never been a can of WD 40 even IN it.. Wintergreen oil works well, but is expensive. Kroil works okay, but not as well as this mixture and costs as much for a pint as the quart of acetone. I scraped a piece of oil field junk up outta the ground with the back hoe and it had 3 threaded bits on it. 2 were wingnuts. I hit all of them with a dose of this mix every day for a week or so and they all came apart w/o wrecking anything. IDK exactly what its made of, it wasnt all caked in rust. Im pretty sure it had been in the dirt for more than 10 years, It does hold a magnet and sparks on the grinder, but what it is,, I dunno..

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/29/14 at 17:08:25

mo updates! first off i want to take a second to thank everyone on this board, i just showed up a few weeks and and everyone has been nothing but nice, knowledge and has plenty of time to take care of the questions i'm sure have been asked a dozen times already. I try and read the tech section though! I also rezised the pics so that should help: http://sourceforge.net/projects/phototoysclone/

Cleaning supplies
Am i missing anything?
http://i.imgur.com/vRiM2F8.jpg?1


Horn Replacement
the old one was busted, i thought about getting one of those 135db bangers but i didn't want to deal with putting a relay in ect so i grabbed one off the shelf at autozone and called it a day.
http://i.imgur.com/2ZydLcQ.jpg

Highway Bar Delete
Not stock, and with my feet on the pegs my knees were above tank level, did i mention they are hilariously useless and not stock? Yea, that.

Before:
http://i.imgur.com/KtCsHX1.jpg

After:
http://i.imgur.com/1vlk6ai.jpg

Before:
http://i.imgur.com/aWeDt0R.jpg
After:
http://i.imgur.com/lnfTPN5.jpg

For sale?

http://i.imgur.com/8dChf7n.jpg

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/29/14 at 17:10:04


4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
Re: Turning an adjustment screw.
Start by looking carefully at where it is, GEntly close it,keeping Very Careful count of how many turns to close,  its a tiny pointy brass thing, dont do more than fingertip torque, all you wanna do is know how many turns out it is Now, so if you get it running weird, you can find "Square One" and start over,, A little mark with a marker where one end of the slot is for start point is not a bad idea. Adjustment can get in the 1/8th turn kinda department. I went for a ride with a pocket screwdriver. Rode and felt of it, making minute adjustments at stops.. Not often do ya catch me glad to get caught at a red lite..




so what am i looking for exactly? idle speed? back firing (i get a bit of that)?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by verslagen1 on 09/29/14 at 18:53:58


033E3534303237373A5B0 wrote:
Cleaning supplies
Am i missing anything?
http://i.imgur.com/vRiM2F8.jpg?1

elbow grease... plenty of it.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 09/29/14 at 19:44:00


7E6D7A7B64696F6D6639080 wrote:
[quote author=033E3534303237373A5B0 link=1408371425/30#33 date=1412035705]Cleaning supplies
Am i missing anything?
http://i.imgur.com/vRiM2F8.jpg?1

elbow grease... plenty of it.[/quote]

eh, got that in spades. i was thinking of getting one of those buffing wheels and just using my drill but i guess that would be cheating?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Todd James on 09/29/14 at 20:12:14

Here is a good post by Lancer in which he explains the basics of
adjusting the idle mix screw:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1267299409

There are also many other posts about it that you can search for.
The idle mix screw is just one of many carburetor adjustments available
for tuning your engine.

But as a very general guideline, set the idle mix screw to yield the highest
idle RPM, then turn the throttle stop screw to set the operating idle RPM
to at least 1100.

You may reduce backfires a little bit with those adjustments but your goal
should be a smooth idling engine that starts easily.
Backfiring (actually after-firing) is an inherent characteristic of our
engines.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/14 at 09:57:29

If anyone can still find this stuff, it is THE single Magic ingredient for a detail job, auto or bike.
100% silicone oil. Its very expensive if bought AS silicone oil,, But, back in the day, it was used in copiers and now, people who do copier sales and service have it left over, cuz its rarely used any more. Call around, ask for Fuser Oil,, theyll ask what machine, what model, tell them it doesnt matter,, cuz it doesnt, you just want the oil. Some is thicker, none is like water, it lasts for a VERY long time & there are no CFCs to evaporate away, leaving you with a cracked dash, like Armorall does..
You get the dirt off a dash and pull a piece of T shirt tight across a coupla fingertips and rub it in. In 2 weeks itll need done again,if the thing was dry,, then, itll last 6 months or more.. BUT, for a bike,Start with that, get all the plastic & rubber,, then, when the rag with the wax on it bumps against it, it wont turn white,, It wont hurt paint, either,,
Ive tried several brands and never seen it attack a plastic, softening it or affecting it in any negative way, all good, BUT,, I wouldnt ever just go spread something on my dash,, so, pick a spot, small, inconspicuous, apply liberally, fingernail & eyeball tomorrow,,
I pay as little as $5.00 a pint, which is $40.00 a gallon,, online, a gallon is like $140.00 or so,, AND, a pint will last for years.. it spreads out and does a fine job,, Take a 20 year old dash, clean it up, apply, wait 2 weeks, hit it again and that plastic is rejuvenated and will go for years before its back to as dry as it was before the first application.. Dont leave it wet, rub it in, spread it thin,till it feels dry, but looks wet. Or, itll catch dust,,

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 01/05/15 at 14:10:18

Me again! Bike won't start, so cold. it was 0º in Indiana today. anyway, look what i got around to ordering!

http://i.imgur.com/FDgUCwZl.jpg


So tanks comes off, petcock swap, new spark plug in (18mm spark plug wrench right?) I don't want to get into the carb just yet, i need to order the new k&m air filter, then i need to toss on the exhaust then do the carb?


Wal mart sells these cheap folding tables, looks like it'll make a decent work bench. (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-6-Centerfold-Table-Multiple-Colors/33148258)

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/05/15 at 20:35:16

How many cylinders does Your Savage HAVE?

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 01/19/15 at 10:33:57


243B3D3A2720112111293B377C4E0 wrote:
How many cylinders does Your Savage HAVE?


it was the same price for one or for a box, weird.



Seat off, tank off, petcock off, just need to get a socket for the spark plug and i'll be good to go. also a vacuum cover for the carb.
http://i.imgur.com/NMXxOjEl.jpg

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 01/19/15 at 14:14:19

spark plugged changed, looking at this one it looks.. fine?

http://i.imgur.com/NnxqPQ3l.jpg

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 01/19/15 at 15:05:46


774A4140444643434E2F0 wrote:
spark plugged changed, looking at this one it looks.. fine?

http://i.imgur.com/NnxqPQ3l.jpg


The color doesn't look bad....kinda depends on what the bike was doing when you last shut it off.  Idling, cruising, etc.  Not too rich....not too lean.

The base electrode looks a little rounded off....but it doesn't look bad.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by pgambr on 01/19/15 at 18:43:48


54696263676560606D0C0 wrote:
spark plugged changed, looking at this one it looks.. fine?


IMHO, maybe just a tad on the rich side.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 03/08/15 at 14:38:36

spark plug swapped, petcock swapped and tested, vacuum line on carb plug, tank one and dammit it still won't start! I made a video maybe someone can enlighten me. might be a little loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atb-oVdcefg&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by LS650THUMPER on 03/11/15 at 19:05:00

Priced the 660 raptor petcock at a yamahawg dealer in old town Maine. Price is 37 bucks.  And have to order not in stock. No rush for me yet, just seeing what's out there...

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Xenokilla on 05/03/15 at 18:09:25

Finally got the harley dyna muffler one:

http://i.imgur.com/BbmgVP4l.jpg


I still need to put the crush gasket on and find a cover for it, but i def noticed an improvement. next up, get someone who knows what they are doing to rejet the carbs and tune it up.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Dave on 05/04/15 at 03:11:02


5A45202326425E435B465344160 wrote:
Priced the 660 raptor petcock at a yamahawg dealer in old town Maine. Price is 37 bucks.  And have to order not in stock. No rush for me yet, just seeing what's out there...


Well....there is no rush until your stock petcock fails.  The problem is there is no way to anticipate when.  You might want to plan ahead and put a rubber cap for the vacuum port on the carb and a golf tee in your tool bag.  Then when it fails while you are riding you can plug the vacuum port, stuff the tee in the vacuum line, and set the stock petcock to PRIME and make it back home.

Title: Re: Winter Work Plan. Looking for advice.
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 05/04/15 at 06:16:51


17086D6E6B0F130E160B1E095B0 wrote:
Priced the 660 raptor petcock at a yamahawg dealer in old town Maine. Price is 37 bucks.  And have to order not in stock.


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