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Message started by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 10:13:34

Title: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 10:13:34

Discovered this the other day while working on the bike.  I guess someone used the wrong sized bolt, and wasn't paying attention to what they were doing. Is this something I can leave alone without it causing any damage?  :-? It seems like changing this out will take some significant time and effort, and if's purely a cosmetic thing I'll just leave it until I need a winter project. Thoughts? Suggestion?

Thanks!

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by Yoshi on 08/17/14 at 10:18:58

I don't think that bolt actually secures anything...

The 4 inside bolts hold the head on

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by verslagen1 on 08/17/14 at 10:22:34


1203122B2729233031292B420 wrote:
I don't think that bolt actually secures anything...

The 4 inside bolts hold the head on


6 studs, 4 pointing up, 2 pointing down.

can't tell where that stud is... another pic please.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 10:29:07


766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
[quote author=1203122B2729233031292B420 link=1408295616/0#1 date=1408295938]I don't think that bolt actually secures anything...

The 4 inside bolts hold the head on


6 studs, 4 pointing up, 2 pointing down.

can't tell where that stud is... another pic please.[/quote]

The acorn bolt just up and to the right of it is one of the the exhaust header bolts, if that helps.  

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by Serowbot on 08/17/14 at 10:33:06

Looks like somebody did some head work and put the wrong length bolt in...

If it ain't leaking, I'd just leave it alone... (maybe clean up that broken fin with a dremel)...

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by verslagen1 on 08/17/14 at 10:50:25

yep, too long of a head cover bolt

when you stick a bolt in, about 3/8" should stick out, and if it takes more than 10 turns start worrying.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 11:09:10


6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
Looks like somebody did some head work and put the wrong length bolt in...

If it ain't leaking, I'd just leave it alone... (maybe clean up that broken fin with a dremel)...


Sounds good. Here's another pic if it helps. Suggest just cutting the fin with a dremel? Like cut it off around where the bolt comes down?

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 11:09:51

....Or cut the bolt with the dremel, then heat the fin and bend it back up?

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by Seaweednh on 08/17/14 at 11:29:55

Personally I wouldn't cut the bolt in place.  The rough cut could damage the alum if you ever have to take it out.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 11:31:21


65535741535352585E360 wrote:
Personally I wouldn't cut the bolt in place.  The rough cut could damage the alum if you ever have to take it out.


Good point. I guess cut the broken part of the fin off then.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by oldNslow on 08/17/14 at 11:38:49

betcha there's another bolt in the headcover that's in the wrong place. And if it's the one that belongs where the one in the picture is, it aint holdin' much.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 14:01:10


704E4F43514D4C220 wrote:
betcha there's another bolt in the headcover that's in the wrong place. And if it's the one that belongs where the one in the picture is, it aint holdin' much.


Well, I am gonna have to remove the cylinder head assy anyway in a couple days anyhow, I guess I'll check all these bolts anyways just to be sure.  ;)

Is Yamabond 4 the best product to seal the cylinder head assy? My guy at the local bike shop recommended it, but I wanted to make sure.


Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/17/14 at 16:55:22

I dunno how I'd fix it,but whoever did that is one KRAPTASTIC Mechanic.
I'd be afraid of everything that clown touched to get In that far.
I can't help but wonder if that was the work of a dealership mechanic.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by Seaweednh on 08/17/14 at 17:41:27

Best I can tell by the parts breakdown, that's a stud. (Well suppose to be). Chances are you can't fix the fin totally but I would try and be d it back. I personally wouldn't use heat on it either, you would only be asking for trouble.

Title: Re: WTF?!? Found this...now what?
Post by Dave on 08/17/14 at 17:54:53


5D505D4B575A545A4D4D3F0 wrote:
[quote author=704E4F43514D4C220 link=1408295616/0#10 date=1408300729]betcha there's another bolt in the headcover that's in the wrong place. And if it's the one that belongs where the one in the picture is, it aint holdin' much.


Well, I am gonna have to remove the cylinder head assy anyway in a couple days anyhow, I guess I'll check all these bolts anyways just to be sure.  ;)

Is Yamabond 4 the best product to seal the cylinder head assy? My guy at the local bike shop recommended it, but I wanted to make sure.

[/quote]


I use SuzukiBond...but Hondabond or Yamabond work fine.  I prefer them over the other the other RTV gasket products as it seems to set up a bit slower and it allows more time to work, and it appear to have a bit more body to it.  The best part is that it is just black..not copper, not orange.....not bright blue.  Nothing screams 'This Engine has been worked on!" more than a glob of orange gasket goo squeezing out the seam.

Use the Yama/Suzi/Hondabond, and take a small wooden scraper and remove whatever has oozed out, then a light wipe with a rag wetted with some mineral spirits.  It is the stuff between the flat mating surfaces that does the sealing...not the goo that has oozed out.

Neatness counts.

Dave

Dave  

Title: Yamabond 4 to seal the cylinder head assy?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 14:03:05

Guy at my local bike shop recommended this when putting the cylinder head assy back on, is this the best product to use?

Title: Re: Yamabond 4 to seal the cylinder head assy?
Post by Serowbot on 08/17/14 at 14:58:18

Yamabond or Hondabond... both good...
Use very little... smooth even and thin...
Not like this... ;D...
http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/headsealplug-033_001.jpg

Title: Re: Yamabond 4 to seal the cylinder head assy?
Post by bobthekerr on 08/17/14 at 15:08:32


2B3D2A372F3A372C580 wrote:
Yamabond or Hondabond... both good...
Use very little... smooth even and thin...
Not like this... ;D...
http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/headsealplug-033_001.jpg


Yeah, that's what he told me, just a thin little coat....

Thanks! :D

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