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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1402801163 Message started by RatdogWillie on 06/14/14 at 19:59:23 |
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Title: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/14/14 at 19:59:23 Suppose you gave a memorial service for Americans killed in action during an attack on a US Navy ship by an enemy of the United States and nobody came. The Department of Defense was a no-show. The Navy Department was a no-show. The American Legion was a no-show. The Navy League was a no-show. Congress was a no-show. http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/us-government-declares-survivors-of-uss-liberty-persona-non-grata/ |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/14 at 21:21:47 Some were given medals in secret & told not to talk about it,, LBJ said I want that GD ship on the bottom of the ocean. He recalled fighters on the way to help them, Few want to talk about that day,, |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by Serowbot on 06/14/14 at 23:02:44 I understand this to be, basically, a friendly fire incident...(heavily investigated by both sides, and determined to be totally accidental)... Are we angry at the US for not honoring these fallen,.. or Israel for making the mistake?... ...or is this just random anger?... What does Alex Jones think about this?... :-/... PS... this originating link,.. comes from a basically pro-Palestine, anti-Semitic site... I don't believe the US disrespects any fallen soldiers... (I sure don't)... Joe Meadors,..... is clearly an anti-Semitic, Palestinian activist... and this "memorial" is a concoction to attack US policy... Nothing to do with vets, or respect... Just political grandstanding... I understand Meadors was on that ship, and survived... It don't make him right in his hatred... Peace, G'dammit!... Peace!... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/14 at 05:27:24 YOuve clearly NOT done much to study it, One Isreali pilot was overheard arguing about shooting, because hye could see thwe flag,,\] The flag was Huge & shot down, TWICE You need to get off your butt & spend some time digging, It was SOLD to you as friendly fire, it wasnt,It was to be blamed on I wanna say Syria, but we had enough survivors the truth won out., |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 06:11:40 495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 06:26:15 7B6D7A677F6A677C080 wrote:
The attack on the USS liberty was deliberate. "We had been surveilled all morning and part of the afternoon by Israeli forces. They knew who we were. We heard them reporting over radio who we were and how we were sailing and where we were sailing. They saw the flag and everything else. We were in international waters." - one of the Israeli pilots that attacked the USS Liberty. http://www.rense.com/general39/pilot.htm |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 06:30:00 2731263B23363B20540 wrote:
Palestinians are Semitic people. The Ashkenazi Khazarians pretending to be decedents of the biblical Israeli's that currently occupy Palestine are not. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 06:32:03 6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
I don't give a flying puck what that azz hole thinks. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 06:44:45 4553445941545942360 wrote:
If you saw an attack by a military force that you thought to be friendly.....an attack that lasted for hours....an attack that came in waves..... an attack that deliberately shot up sailors in life boats....an attack that blew up your friends into pieces...bloody body parts that would forever haunt your dreams..an attack that targeted your communications antennas.....an attack that tried to sink the ship that you were standing on.....a ship that was flying a large USA flag.....a ship with American sailors wearing American Navy uniforms....an attack that tried to end your stay on this Earth.....THEN you witnessed years of coverup by a complacent American government...and you found out about orders from the AZZ hole in the White House to send your ship to the bottom of the sea....and orders to the Americans that were sent to assist you.... to turn tail and head back....abandon you and your very lightly armed ship to destruction....and then you watched your country kiss Azz to the attackers and give these lying scumbags more than 8 and a half million dollars of tax payer money every dam day....EVERY dam day! no breaks for holidays or weekends..... these lying scumbags that infiltrated our government, media, schools....these scumbags that whose agents were arrested on 9/11/2001 celebrating the NYC attacks and driving explosive loaded Urban Moving Systems vans in Manhattan and across the river..........YOU would hate them too! .....or since it is you maybe not! Maybe you would do what you do best....be an apologist. http://www.uss-liberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/uss_liberty.jpghttp://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h97000/h97479.jpg http://mycatbirdseat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/USS-LIBERTY-ATTACK-1967.jpg http://mycatbirdseat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/spattered_by_isreali_gunfire.jpghttp://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/u120000/u123119.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss-liberty-damage-at-sea.jpghttp://indocropcircles.wordpress.com/2014/04/20/sejarah-yang-terpendam-ketika-israel-hantam-kapal-as-uss-liberty-hingga-tenggelam/http://funkoffizier.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/uss-liberty-zona-del-puente-ametrallada.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss-liberty-05.jpghttp://indocropcircles.wordpress.com/2014/04/20/sejarah-yang-terpendam-ketika-israel-hantam-kapal-as-uss-liberty-hingga-tenggelam/http://jfktruth.org/LBJ/USSLiberty/USSLiberty.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss-liberty-08.jpghttp://www.ussliberty.org/g/lg/lg0043.jpghttp://www.viewzone.com/liberty_Main_Blast_Area.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss_liberty-header.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/lambung-uss-liberty.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss-liberty-victims-2.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss_liberty_ship_survivors_2.jpghttp://indocropcircles.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/uss-liberty-victims.jpg |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by Serowbot on 06/15/14 at 07:37:21 Wow... cut and paste... Next time just post a link... That will save us a lot of scrolling... Anyway,... I'm done with this racist topic... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 07:52:14 2D3B2C31293C312A5E0 wrote:
So, I cut and pasted the attacking pilots' quotes and I cut and pasted the links to photos......... The rest is my thoughts... written in my words....so what's wrong with that????? ....are you now going to pull rank again and delete another thread that you don't like? ......of course it will be by "accident".... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/15/14 at 09:34:15 The arrival of a Russian navy ship on the scene stopped the slaughter. The Israeli's stopped the attack because the Russians were witnesses. If the Russians hadn't shown up.....the USS Liberty would have sunk and the US would have gone to war with Egypt for Israel. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/14 at 21:02:11 Why is it racist to KNOW what happened? |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by mpescatori on 06/16/14 at 00:54:51 7A6C7B667E6B667D090 wrote:
As Dante, Europe's most eminent poet, once wrote : "Wise words of silence were never written" ...meaning, on this issue, any statement is an embarrassing statement. Ethnic Palestinians are, until proven otherwise, those who lived in the Holy Land at the times of the Crusades, and regardless of religion, dressed, spoke and ate in the same fashion. Ethnic Palestinians are, until proven otherwise, those who lived in the Holy Land under the Ottoman Empire, and regardless of religion, dressed, spoke and ate in the same fashion. I should know, my Father in Law is of the House of David and was born in Bethlehem. He was drafted into the "Palestinian Army" in the 1930's under British rule. Then a wise guy with a Hungarian name and an pseudo-british army uniform knocked at his door one night and evicted him and his family and drove them out of Bethlehem, because "you aren't jewish" :o Excuse me? :-? Since when does a Hungarian, Polish, Ukrainian/Russian or even German Jew have any right to tell someone who's been living in the Holy Land for over 1000 documented years... ..."You can't live here, this is my house now" ? :-/ By the way, genetically speaking, Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are Semites; Israeli Jews are either Ashkenazi - hence, slavs, or Sephardic - hence Iberians. There were precious few "Judean Jews" in the Holy Land up until 1918, as most had been killed during the Crusades (by the Christian soldiers...) and the survivors paid "protection money" to the ruling Muslims - as did the Christians - as is specified in the Qoran. Honestly, the Jews never had it so good as under Turkish rule. Read history and stop saying silly things. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by Serowbot on 06/16/14 at 09:07:41 Genetically speaking... Jews and Palestinians are the same people... More than 80% are related in lineage... both sides... The difference here, is not one of a right to property, but a right to exist... One side,...the Palestinians.. believes the other has no right exist... If both sides would acknowledge each other as as equals... they could share.. One side is willing,.. the other ain't... There is a fundamental wrong here... beyond history, lines on a map, walls, or property... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by WebsterMark on 06/16/14 at 10:05:32 What if they are not equals? Sorry, but culturally speaking, the Palestinians are not equal to the Israelis. When you use children as bombs, you kind of give up your right to call yourself civilized..... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by Serowbot on 06/16/14 at 10:24:34 That's the "if" part... ;)... Both sides need to acknowledge the mutual right to exist... |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by WebsterMark on 06/16/14 at 13:31:13 No, only one side needs to acknowledge that........ Acknowledging the inequality or lack of a civilized culture isn't the same hoping (and actively working to bring it about) the other culture goes up in a mushroom cloud. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/14 at 16:53:27 The Israelis knowingly attacked an American ship. If youll take the time to look for it, there are references to pilots calling to base, saying they see an American flag,, is this really the target? |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/19/14 at 13:37:41 724047565140576844574E250 wrote:
Palestinians must be stopped! I have had enough of those Palestinians. I think the world in general is also fed up with Palestinians. They have gone too far in demonizing Israelis and must be stopped. The international community must act now before it is too late and Israel is wiped off the map and a second tragedy of historic proportions fall on a significant part of the world’s Jewish population. For starters, Palestinians embarked by land, sea and air onto Israel and displaced more than half the Jewish population of Israel in 1948. Imagine, more than half of the population of Israel displaced, forced to live to this day, 66 years later, in squalid refugee camps only hours from their homes. Other than some faint attempts to fight their way back to their homes in Israel, Israeli refugees have been “unreasonably reasonable” in accepting their fate, and continue to patiently wait for word when they can return home to Israel. This man made tragedy was perpetrated by Palestinians, who continue to this day to strangulate Jewish citizens of Israel by the use of brute force and economic suffocation in an attempt to have them voluntarily emigrate elsewhere. Palestinians are a violent people. Every Palestinian high school graduate is forced into mandatory conscription, three years for males and two years for females. During this military stint, every Palestinian citizen is trained on the use of weapons and combat methods. Many Palestinians brag about how they brutalize Jewish Israelis during their military service; some have even posted photos on their Facebook wall of them posing with Israeli corpses or a blindfolded Israeli who was taken prisoner. Palestinians are making Israeli livelihood miserable. They have set up military checkpoints in and around major Israeli cities, like Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Eilat. Palestinian soldiers stop only Israeli cars, sometimes for hours on end, while letting Palestinian registered cars ride through their checkpoints unhindered. When an Israeli wants to leave Israel, s/he must get Palestinian permission beforehand. If any Israeli gets on the Palestinian blacklist, his/her ability to leave Israel is impossible. Imagine not being able to leave your own country or being allowed to leave but not to return. Even when Israelis want to travel from one Israeli city to another, Palestinians have set up checkpoints, which resemble the border terminals between the US and Canada, with one difference: the process to pass is one of pure humiliation, more like cattle being pushed through caged pathways than passengers crossing a terminal. Israel has a huge potential to be a regional economic hub of tourism and trade, but Palestinians are blocking Israel’s ability to economically develop by every means possible. Israelis love technology, but every smartphone in Israel is a dumb phone because Palestinians are refusing to allocate the electromagnetic spectrum—which they control as part of their occupation of Israel—required for 3G services to Israeli telecommunications companies. Can you imagine, those Palestinians are actually refusing to free the airspace above Tel Aviv to Israelis! It gets worse. Israelis have found a huge natural gas well in Israeli territorial waters, in the sea of Tel Aviv, and the Palestinians are refusing to give Israeli firms access to tap the gas. Even Israeli fishermen are routinely shot at when fishing in the Mediterranean Sea. As if all of this was not bad enough, for the past 47 years Palestinians have slowly moved their citizens to the hilltops around Israeli cities. The hilltops were first confiscated by the use of force, then Arafat, and now Abbas, send Palestinian security forces to protect the confiscated lands. Once the lands are ready, Palestinians have tapped the huge amounts of funds that donors have passed to them and used the funds, not to build schools and a health care system, but rather to build permanent housing in these military enclaves around Israeli cities, in order to entice Palestinians from Ramallah and Hebron to move to Tel Aviv and other Israeli cities. This is not only against international law, but defies common sense. How can Palestinians keep paying lip service to wanting to live in peace with Israelis when they keep gobbling up more Israeli land and move their population to take up residence inside Israel? You think it cannot get worse? Well, you’re wrong. Palestinians have kidnapped 5,000 Israelis from their homes, about 200 are Israeli children under 18 years old, and have locked them into Palestinian jails. These jails that the Palestinians maintain are all built inside Palestinian lands in the West Bank and Gaza. When Israeli mothers want to go visit their loved ones, they must get permission from Palestinian security forces to visit. Hundreds of those 5,000 prisoners are being held without charge; the Palestinians deceitfully call it Administrative Detention. You would think the world would hold these Palestinian jailers accountable, but they haven’t for decades. This is why the time has come to stop those Palestinians once and for all. Israelis cannot be expected to live like this forever. Something must be immediately done to stop these Palestinians and hold them accountable for the daily atrocities that they are committing against humanity. Israelis are a peace loving people. They come from a religion that rests on a pillar of social justice. What is being done to them is beyond imagination. Israeli civil society has made a call for the world to divest from Palestine. Israelis across the political spectrum are referring to how Jews around the world supported the boycott and divestment of Apartheid South Africa, which successfully collapsed that racist regime. Jews are pointing to their always being on the correct side of history, from the US civil rights movement to people’s struggles in Latin America. They now beg the world to act to stop Palestinians before it is too late. The time is now to boycott Palestine, divest from Palestine, and apply serious sanctions on Palestine until it removes the boot of military occupation from the necks of Israelis. - By Sam Bahour The above is true....the nationalities were reversed for the comfort of Mark Webster and others like him that suffer from media inflicted biased perceptions on Middle East realities. |
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Title: Re: US GOV DECLARES SURVIVORS PERSONA NON GRATA Post by RatdogWillie on 06/25/14 at 11:42:08 Excerpt from an article by Joe Meadors. He was aboard the USS Liberty when the ship was attacked by the Israeli Defense Forces in 1967 My concern is not about the attack on our ship or how it was described but in your apparent lumping all who opine that the attack was deliberate and premeditated as “conspiracy theorists” – a descriptor that over the years has taken on a decidedly negative connotation. Let me be clear. Anyone who researches the attack on our ship is perfectly within their right to reach their conclusions based upon whatever evidence they deem to be appropriate. So are we. We have researched the evidence of the attack and have concluded that it was deliberate and premeditated. We saw the unmarked aircraft; we heard the jamming of our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies; we witnessed the deliberate machine gunning of life rafts we had dropped over the side in anticipation of abandoning ship; we witnessed the slow circling of our ship by Israeli torpedo boats as they fired from close range at crewmen who were either trapped topside or who ventured topside to help their wounded shipmates; we saw the Israeli helicopters filled with armed assault troops hover very close to our ship in an apparent attempt to find a place to allow those troops to rappel down to the ship; we witnessed the torpedo boats immediate departure from the scene of the attack after cessation of hostilities instead of offering assistance as is their obligation under international law. We have also learned that testimony from eye witnesses about the deliberate machine gunning of our life rafts in the water has been removed from the record of the US Navy Court of Inquiry Report; that Findings of Fact in the US Navy Court of Inquiry Report are not supported by evidence and testimony in the record as is required by the rules that govern Courts of Inquiry; that there is nothing in the Court of Inquiry Report about the recall of two flights of rescue aircraft on orders from The White House; that statements provided to the Court by some 65 USS Liberty crewmen have disappeared…………more http://thearabdailynews.com/2014/06/24/uss-liberty-conspiracy-theorists-uss-liberty-truthers/ |
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