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Title: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by brianho2112 on 06/11/14 at 15:43:30 I'm just going to get this out of the way. I know most people advise to use Verslavy's tensioner mod, but in my case I happened to find a new one for fairly cheap and ready for immediate use. After I replaced the old one with a new one, why does it still seem like it's ready to pop out again? Should I be concerned? http://s30.postimg.org/n3315h9cd/IMG_20140611_175104063.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/n3315h9cd/) |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Demin on 06/11/14 at 15:47:14 Because you're replacing it with the same thing,you accomplished nothing but spending money.If you look at Verslagen's it has an extra hole welded into it.So you actually put the plunger back into the body. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Demin on 06/11/14 at 15:49:40 http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/CamChainClub/verslavy.jpg |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by brianho2112 on 06/11/14 at 15:54:01 Talk about a design flaw. What do dealerships do when they encounter the issue of over-extended tensioners if new ones won't fix the issue? |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by oldNslow on 06/11/14 at 16:00:21 021209010E080F52515152600 wrote:
They replace the cam chain. Then, in 10 or 15 thousand miles, you are right back where you started. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Demin on 06/11/14 at 16:06:35 Verslagen has saved many Savages with his design.That's actually what brought me to this site...Years ago.I got extremely lucky. http://p1.bikepics.com/2007/09/21/bikepics-1030794-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by brianho2112 on 06/11/14 at 16:10:46 I see. Thank you so much for the clarification. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Demin on 06/11/14 at 16:40:07 Well worth the money,in my opinion. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/14 at 18:50:58 In the future, until you know ya know what youre doin, ask before spending, UNLESS your billable hourly rate is over $400.00 an hour,, then, ehh,, spend it Baby! |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Bluesman on 06/12/14 at 07:41:53 Oh...that was RUDE, man :-) |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/14 at 09:11:21 Wasnt meant to be. Weve saved lots of people lots of time & $$$. Once someone has been here a while theyve read enough & they know when its time to drop some $$$ or ask for "How do I do this" advice. And, we DO have a member who has sufficient income to make working on the bike simply not a smart move. You know that if Bill Gates was "On the clock" & paid from exactly 8 to 5 & IF he was late, his pay reflected it, & he was gonna be EXACTLY on time IF he didnt break stride and he saw a $100.00 bill on the sidewalk & he turned around & bent over & pocketed it, he would be goin Bakkerds? If someone makes enuff $$$/hour it simply doesnt make sense to work on it yourself, unless someone sees maintenance as just part of the "owning a motorcycle" experience & they want to.. BUt seriously, how many people who have put themselves in a position to earn that kinda $$$ have any desire to get greasy? I know of only one, Leno,.,. I apologize if that came off snarky,, I only meant to extend advice that will save you $$ & time & frustration. Once youve been around a while, YOULL be doin that for others,, Easy mistake to make, frustrating & unfunny,, but NOW you have a "core", If its not oval inside the tube the arm slides into then maybe Verslagen would like to have it. He could fix it up,, OHH,, wait a Minnit! If its healthy, send it to him or find someone to mod it locally.. then see if he wants the new one, YOu can slap the modded one in & wring the rest of the miles outta that chain & He can have an "On the shelf" unit, ready to go,, |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/14 at 09:40:00 Ship me the new and the old one. I'll upgrade the new one for $75 and give you a discount of $30 for the old one. Include the plungers, springs and housings. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by Steve H on 06/12/14 at 16:02:54 Like they said, the problem is not your tensioner, it's your chain. During use, with heating and cooling and pressure on them, they stretch. When stretched enough, you get the tensioner coming apart or just about to come apart. The factory will tell you it's time for a new timing chain. But, the chain is nowhere near out of it's serviceable limits according to the factory specs. Verslagen's tensioner lets you continue to extend the tensioner outwards to get full life of the chain by having an extra hole so the plunger stays back in the body and you still get the tension you need. Versy: Has anyone ever made a manual tensioner or done any kind of testing to see if the automatic tensioner is actually causing the chain to stretch so quickly? |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by 1st2know on 06/12/14 at 19:01:44 2E2F2723244A0 wrote:
This makes me wonder just how many more Savages are thumping down the road because of this nifty little mod. For me, just knowing that it's installed makes me want to keep the machine running longer. I pay closer attention to maintenance, double check torque and valve clearances. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/14 at 21:20:46 4A51080B0A0D0F00390 wrote:
There has been a few that said they were going to do it, but we've never heard any more about. There are several ways to wash a cat, most will leave you bloodly and the smart ones send the job out. 8-) The mean ones just keep flushing. :-? We test by experience and measure by observation. The only difference between long mileage and short are long trips vs. short. The more miles you put on a heat cycle, the longer it lives. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by DavidOfMA on 06/12/14 at 21:25:24 56575F5B5C320 wrote:
Since each of the two parts of the stock adjuster seems to be bolted to something, how does it damage the engine when it falls apart? It looks as if only the spring will wind up somewhere that could gum up the works. Just curious. |
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Title: Re: New Tensioner Seems Loose Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/14 at 21:32:40 04020F0F0B02090E040512600 wrote:
If that doesn't happen, then the chain can get jammed or thrown off. cam gets outta time with the crank and a fight breaks out and the aftermath aint pretty. |
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