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Message started by Beagle on 06/03/14 at 20:19:25

Title: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/03/14 at 20:19:25

Has anyone ever felt like they were sliding a bit when turning?   I just noticed that today on a ride.  Maybe it was just me being a little tired or the road or something else but it felt strange.   I didn't know if something could be out of alignment or anything.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by gizzo on 06/03/14 at 21:40:22

I feel like that now and again. But that's because I'm sliding. Usually over white lines or train tracks  :-[
The suzy easily breaks traction when it's goosed around a slow bend, too.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by markbacon on 06/03/14 at 22:51:17

Tyre pressure. Start at 36 psi in the rear (cold) and work up/down from there until you find what works best for you. Always use the same pressure gauge.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Serowbot on 06/03/14 at 22:59:59

You go, girl!... ;D...

Limits of adhesion... Cool!... ;)...

Usually,.. when I feel like I'm slidin'... it's means I'm crashin"... :-/...

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by WD on 06/03/14 at 23:52:07

Increase your tire pressure. Tighten your shock mounts. Check your axle and swingarm pivot nuts. Check your shock preload settings. Check the headset tension. Lube the headset bearings and reset the preload. Check your tire condition (cracks, tread depth, pliability). Service the swingarm bushings.

Or just chalk it up to "eh, s*** happens" and go on your merry way. Doesn't take much to break out in a turn on a swingarm bike.

Had to cross a very busy state highway Saturday after a rain storm went through. Grabbed a handful of throttle, popped the clutch in first gear and went fishtailing across the road. Oil seeping out of the paving material from the heat, combined with a bit of left over rain water film... If the belt had been set to factory tension, Sam would have aired out the front tire...  8-)

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Steddy58 on 06/04/14 at 06:10:45

Its all part of the fun :) Tokyo drift syndrome

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 06:11:35


382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
You go, girl!... ;D...

Limits of adhesion... Cool!... ;)...

Usually,.. when I feel like I'm slidin'... it's means I'm crashin"... :-/...



Now I'm feeling the love!!!!   :P

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Dave on 06/04/14 at 06:14:08

Sliding the back tire.......Cool! ;D

Sliding the front tire.......Scary! :o

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 06:14:20

I was thinking of maybe...looking at getting a front fork brace but those seem kind of expensive.  What do you think of those thing-a-ma-jigs?  Do they help at all or just a waste of $?  They were looking like they ran around $150+ (unless anyone knows of somewhere they are less expensive).

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by thumperclone on 06/04/14 at 06:24:50

try stiffing up the shocks one notch
help me on 90 deg turns

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 06:30:36


704B4651404C57514A424F50230 wrote:
Sliding the back tire.......Cool! ;D

Sliding the front tire.......Scary! :o


Actually, I think it was just me....you know being lazy and laying back when riding instead of sitting straight up and having my center of gravity where it needed to be.   I've been playing with my handlebars moving them up a bit and that might have thrown me off, so I lowered them a little between where they were before and where I had them adjusted.

Yeah, it was the front wheel that felt like it was sliding.  The tires are fine too.  

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Serowbot on 06/04/14 at 09:31:45

I don't think a fork brace would do much for that...
Only thing I can think of is grippier tires...

PS.. here in dustown... you can get a build-up of fine dust on roads that is invisible, but slick...
I spun out the Sporty taking off on a patch a couple of months ago...
Looked real cool,. but I stained my shorts a little... ;D...

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by verslagen1 on 06/04/14 at 10:06:26


5259455841455E5F310 wrote:
I was thinking of maybe...looking at getting a front fork brace but those seem kind of expensive.  What do you think of those thing-a-ma-jigs?  Do they help at all or just a waste of $?  They were looking like they ran around $150+ (unless anyone knows of somewhere they are less expensive).

The TKAT fork brace is less than $100 and they are worth it.
Traveling at superslab speed slight changes in road height (cracks, grooves, paint stripes etc.) will really give you a ride and at times make you feel like you're about to go over.  A fork brace will really stiffen up the forks and reduce the effect to a minimum.

You might also check your head bearings.  If your grease has hardened up it'll make steering 'notchy'... you can't make smooth turns and going a straight line is difficult.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by strang on 06/04/14 at 12:16:58

Still running stock tyres? I was running a stock rear for a while and that was very good at sliding. Sliding has gone now I have swapped it for a decent one.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 12:21:05


564552534C4147454E11200 wrote:
[quote author=5259455841455E5F310 link=1401851966/0#8 date=1401887660]I was thinking of maybe...looking at getting a front fork brace but those seem kind of expensive.  What do you think of those thing-a-ma-jigs?  Do they help at all or just a waste of $?  They were looking like they ran around $150+ (unless anyone knows of somewhere they are less expensive).

The TKAT fork brace is less than $100 and they are worth it.
Traveling at superslab speed slight changes in road height (cracks, grooves, paint stripes etc.) will really give you a ride and at times make you feel like you're about to go over.  A fork brace will really stiffen up the forks and reduce the effect to a minimum.

You might also check your head bearings.  If your grease has hardened up it'll make steering 'notchy'... you can't make smooth turns and going a straight line is difficult.[/quote]


Well, I checked on the TKAT fork brace web site (http://www.tkat.com/forkbrace.html) and it doesn't show pricing.   I've e-mailed them yesterday but haven't heard anything yet.  For under $100, I'd try it out I think.   Is there another web site you are looking at where they are under $100?

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 12:22:36


656264777871160 wrote:
Still running stock tyres? I was running a stock rear for a while and that was very good at sliding. Sliding has gone now I have swapped it for a decent one.


I got new Dunlop D404 tires 2-years ago and the tread is still good on them.

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 12:23:28


002736233B17530 wrote:
Its all part of the fun :) Tokyo drift syndrome


No drifting for me...not even in my car!  ;D

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Beagle on 06/04/14 at 12:24:45


4355425F47525F44300 wrote:
I don't think a fork brace would do much for that...
Only thing I can think of is grippier tires...

PS.. here in dustown... you can get a build-up of fine dust on roads that is invisible, but slick...
I spun out the Sporty taking off on a patch a couple of months ago...
Looked real cool,. but I stained my shorts a little... ;D...


Thanks for the visual image of you staining your shorts!   :P

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by shorty on 06/04/14 at 13:33:23


3F293E233B2E23384C0 wrote:
You go, girl!... ;D...

Limits of adhesion... Cool!... ;)...

Usually,.. when I feel like I'm slidin'... it's means I'm crashin"... :-/...


LOVE IT  ;)

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/14 at 12:34:25

Leaves in a corner,, OHH Mu Gawd if theyre wet,,& toss in a few gum ball offa the trees just to keep it fun,,

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by Dave on 06/05/14 at 13:15:38


5B444245585F6E5E6E56444803310 wrote:
Leaves in a corner,, OHH Mu Gawd if theyre wet,,& toss in a few gum ball offa the trees just to keep it fun,,


Wanna make it really fun.....offroad?

Wet leaves on packed wet clay trails!

Title: Re: Feel Like Sliding A Bit On Turns
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/14 at 05:59:05

Wet clay? Holy cow, man, I "stuck" a pickup on wet clay. No, the tires didnt sink in, it had just rained & it was an oil field road in West Texas. The boss TOLD us if anyone gets in there & gets stuck, dont call him,,BUT,, I needed to go across it & it looked okay,, what I didnt know was it was slicker than anything on Earth but ice,,I was able to push it out by opening the door & putting it in gear & reaching in & gassin it while I leaned on the door. Clay & water & Leaves, too? Its either go straight or go straight down Id guess..

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