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Message started by natesavage on 05/31/14 at 00:30:17

Title: liquid gasket
Post by natesavage on 05/31/14 at 00:30:17

Hi all! New savage rider/ new rider in general. I got the raptor petcock to put on my 2001 savage with around 8000 miles. (Ordered of of newegg for 7 bucks) came in real fast but didnt have the o-ring gasket. I stuck the oem petcock oring on it and just used some liquid gasket to fill in the spaces that the o ring didnt. It sealed just fine with no leaks. And i also stuck a lawn mower fuel filter from tractor supply on it. I was just wondering about yalls opinion on this liquid gasket stuff. Good to use? Bad? Okay for some things?

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by WD on 05/31/14 at 02:42:36

Pull the fuel filter out or your bike is going to starve for fuel. And send that Chinese knockoff back where it came from, odds are very good that it has an undersized fuel outlet.

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by shorty on 05/31/14 at 06:05:45

watch closely for leaks..
1. the cheap chinese petcock may leak after a spell
2. not all gasket material is fuel-proof, silicone is not

good luck,
gary

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by S-P on 05/31/14 at 08:03:34

555A4F5E020C3B0 wrote:

Sometimes a deal isn't a deal... What those other guys said. :-?

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/14 at 09:30:44

When the Real McCoy costs just under 30 bucks, and can be had with no shipping, BTW,
You gotta know that a seven dollar answer is a fraud.
We have all been told
You get what you pay for
But thats a lie.. WE pay good money for bad products & services all the time,

However, what IS true is
You will pay for what you get.. & if you need a quality part,, youll pay a quality price, 7 bucks aint it,,BUt you sure arent the first to buy one,

& Yea,, unless you gut a Fat honkin filter, its likely to cause problems at higher throttle settings,,

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by natesavage on 06/02/14 at 07:46:56

Just to clarify. The fuel filter isnt a paper filter its just a screen like the petcock screen.

Petcock:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C51HS9324

Liquid gasket:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002JN5KG?pc_redir=1401038253&robot_redir=1

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by Dave on 06/02/14 at 07:55:36

404F5A4B17192E0 wrote:

You are headed for trouble.

The petcock is 100% brand new....but not from Yamaha.
Silicone gasket sealer is not fuel proof.....it will leak very soon. You don't want to be dripping fuel on the hot engine. Not long ago I was curious about this and put a small hole in the side of a soda can, applied silocone gasket material and let it cure. I put gasoline in the can, and within a few hours the gasoline was leaking from between the can and the silicone.

Just write of the $ 7.00 petcock as a cheap lesson, go buy the proper Yamaha petcock.....and get on with your life.

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by natesavage on 06/02/14 at 08:01:40

Thanks for the input Dave. Could you link me the real one that comes with the oring? And what about that same silicone liquid gasket on the oring for my oil filter? Thats what I originally got it for. The guy at the autoparts store said it was the best thing to seal against oil.

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by Dave on 06/02/14 at 08:04:00

Here is the data sheet for the Silicone product you used. Notice the comment about not using it for contact with gasoline.

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: Mega Black Silicone is a single component, moisture curing RTV (room temperature
vulcanicizing) silicone gasketing material that cures into a strong silicone rubber that maintains long term durability and
flexibility to make formed-in-place gaskets. Mega Black Silicone is a non-slumping, paste-like consistency which cures
when exposed to moisture in the air. Forms a tough, flexible silicone rubber gasket that resists aging, weathering; will not
harden, shrink or crack. Remains more flexible than conventional gaskets. Mega Black Silicone is non-corrosive to steel,
iron and aluminum.
WORKS BEST ON: Use to replace silicone, cork, felt and rubber gaskets. Use on valve covers, oil pans, intake
manifold end seals, water pumps, transmission pans, cam covers and thermostat housings.
(OEM Approved = Original Equipment Manufacturer Approved)
PRODUCT FEATURES:
Tensile Strength: 240psi
Non-Flammable, Non-Toxic
Low Volatile, Oxygen Sensor Safe
Low Odor
Color: Black
Waterproof
Set Time: 8 – 10 minutes
Full Bond: 12 – 24 hours (Cure times will vary with temperature, humidity and gap)
Temperature Range: Continuous: -65ºF to 400ºF
Intermittent: -65ºF to 650ºF
Chemical Solvent Resistance: automotive fluids and oils
Mega Black will handle synthetic oils; but NOT IF FRICTION MODIFIERS (ADDITIVES) ARE ADDED TO
THE OIL.
NOT RECOMMENDED for use on parts in constant contact with gasoline.
Storage: Store in a cool, dry environment.
SURFACE PREPARATION: PROVIDE ADEQUATE VENTILATION. Protect work area from accidental
spills. Clean all mating surfaces with a residue-free solvent to remove grease, oil, dirt or other contaminants.
REMOVAL METHODS: (test inconspicuous area of item to be sure chemicals do not harm surface)
Before cure: Scrape off excess with a knife or non-flammable cleaning fluid. If skinned over, break film with
a dry cloth and remove as much as possible. Remove any remaining material with a gasket remover.
After cure: Scrape or peel off, then solvent clean surface.
HELPFUL HINTS: Clean and dry surfaces thoroughly. Apply a thin even bead (1/8”) to one surface. Wait 10 minutes
until sealant skins before assembling. For temporary assemblies, apply a light coat of oil to uncoated surfaces, then
assemble. Clean excess with a knife. Replace cap after use. Sealant is fully cured in 12-24 hours.
This product is not recommended for use in pure oxygen or oxygen rich systems and should not be used as a
sealant for chlorine or other strong oxidizing materials.
For storage: after use, create a silicone plug by pushing excess material to extend beyond the extension nozzzle and
allow to cure (this will seal and protect unused product). To reuse, simply remove the cured “plug” from tip.
See MSDS for more complete information, safe handling instructions and first aid.
Non-Regulated
Part Number: 99839, 99849

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by Dave on 06/02/14 at 08:11:56

5B5441500C02350 wrote:

You should not have to use any sealer on the rubber O-ring for your oil filter. The O-ring should be replaced if it is faulty or not sealing well.

Here is a link for the proper petcock from Ron Ayers:
http://www.ronayers.com/Search.aspx?k=5LP-24500-01

You can also get it from Bike Bandit or any online parts seller, eBay or your local dealer. The part number is Yamaha 5LP-24500-01.

You can even get the correct part from ebay.....provided you see the correct Yamaha Part Number and the Yamaha box.....and they say that it is a Factory Yamaha Petcock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuel-Gas-Tank-Petcock-Turn-Valve-thingy-OEM-Yamaha-Raptor-YFM660R-YFM-660R-660-R-/201029146526?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ece45579e&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-PETCOCK-FUEL-thingy-VALVE-ASSEMBLY-YFM660-YFM-660-RAPTOR-GRIZZLY-/251379906941?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a8768f97d&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-YAMAHA-RAPTOR-660-FUEL-PETCOCK-FITS-SUZUKI-LTZ-400-/200643699122?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb74be1b2&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/14 at 13:49:41

I walked into the Yamaha dealership with my Zuki petcock, told them I needed a Raptor petcock, handed the guy mine,, walked out for under $30.00.. No hassles, no "Gee, I wonder if this will work,,", comes with an Oring, bolts right up, no fixing, no shimming, nothing,, poke it in & run the bolts down,,

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by S-P on 06/02/14 at 15:15:10

796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:

Yep, by the time you pay shipping from an online dealer you're only a couple bucks shy of 30.00 anyway. Sometimes it's really OK to go old school and just buy it from someone who has it with a door you can walk through.... ;)

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by Steve H on 06/02/14 at 17:59:24

Just out of curiosity, I checked with my local stealership the other day about one...$39.95 and they have to order it.

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by S-P on 06/02/14 at 18:30:05

5F441D1E1F181A152C0 wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I checked with my local stealership the other day about one...$39.95 and they have to order it.

YOW!!! Well, free enterprise... that's what makes this country great.... :P

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by JRLeathercraft on 06/02/14 at 21:05:09

I have a cheap knock off with thge smaller outlket and it works fine.

Jay

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by shorty on 06/03/14 at 06:07:53

I did the mod on the stock petcock and it's been great for two years..
the mod is on this sight somewhere, I couldn't wait for the yammy petcock,
did the mod in about an hour. The prime position becomes "off".. run and reserve are unchanged

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/14 at 07:23:05

& when you need to switch to reserve because its bucking & starving for gas,, you park it & walk, or push.,

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by natesavage on 06/06/14 at 09:40:07

Hey thanks for all the replies. I went ahed and ordered both gaskets off amazon it was under 9 dollars but after shipping came out to 25 bucks. Oh well I guess its worth it. The integrity of my bike is way more important than a few bucks. Now to get this dyna pipe on...

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by Dave on 06/06/14 at 12:25:50

686772633F31060 wrote:

You ordered what gaskets for $ 9.00.....$ 25 with shipping? :o

Am I missing something here? I thought we were trying to get you to order a real factory petcock with a real factory gasket.....for about $ 30 shipped to your door!

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by shorty on 06/06/14 at 12:34:07

637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:

& when you need to switch to reserve because its bucking & starving for gas,, you park it & walk, or push.,

??? :-?..
the diaphragm is removed, simple on, off, reserve.. old school man ;)
full flow when "on" and full flow in "reserve"

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by natesavage on 06/06/14 at 21:38:05

I was saying I o9dered the o ring for the oil filter and the oring for the Petcock. It was 9 bucks plus shipping and tax was 25 total.

Title: Re: liquid gasket
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/14 at 21:44:26

11030C110D0C0705620 wrote:

[quote author=637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 link=1401521417/15#16 date=1401805385]& when you need to switch to reserve because its bucking & starving for gas,, you park it & walk, or push.,

??? :-?..
the diaphragm is removed, simple on, off, reserve.. old school man ;)
full flow when "on" and full flow in "reserve"[/quote]

Well,, OOOK ay then,, sheesh,, I THOT I was talking to Ah Dults!

so there.. waah.. & all that,,

PHHHHHT! :)