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Message started by Tocsik on 05/30/14 at 15:44:53

Title: Best first mods for newb
Post by Tocsik on 05/30/14 at 15:44:53

About to pick up my '08 tomorrow and just wondering what to do first.
I'll probably do the Raptor petcock and lift the seat for now.
Been reading the 'what the newb needs to know' stuff.

I would like to put on a pipe for just a little better exhaust note and would like to do so without rejetting so looking for recommendations in that regard.
I love the look of Serobot's single seat (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1401399420/0) but, from what I've read, the rear fender needs work if you go that route.

Let me know what has worked well and what to avoid!
Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by pgambr on 05/30/14 at 16:02:57

That's a real good start.  I would put in shell rotella oil as well.  I'm sure you will enjoy it. :)

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by S-P on 05/30/14 at 16:10:04

Depending on the mileage, I'd check out your cam chain tensioner. That's a critical path thing if you have over 7-8000 miles. My first one had about 9000 miles and the tensioner was almost out. Dyna muffler puts out a good "note" without being obnoxiously loud. My take from the forum is anytime you open your air flow to get a better sound you're looking at re-jetting. I see your in Colorado, so your elevation may play into your jetting anyway.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by Greg on 05/30/14 at 16:14:36

If you want to do the single seat, just add a fender bib or throw over bags to hide the ugly.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by Tocsik on 05/30/14 at 18:08:15

That soon on the tensioner, huh? Guess I'll be contacting Verslagen sooner than expected.  It actually has less than 3k on it so I'm ok for now.
Thanks again everyone. I'm here to learn.

What is the recommended rear tire size among the group? Without mods.

Also, what tire pressure? I'm gonna check that before riding it home.
darn, I'm stoked!

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by nickthe_human on 05/30/14 at 18:38:20

If you're only at 3k, you are probably fine on the adjuster, but I would do an oil change when you get it and check the adjuster, just to be safe, and also you can get a measurement of how long you have before it falls apart.

I believe stock rear is 140/80 15. And I think some easily do 140/90. Also 130/90 will fit.

And I think tire pressure for rear should be 29 for solo and 33 for two up. I could be wrong. I can't remember what the sticker on the belt guard said. If the bike still has it, go by that. I usually keep about 30 in both front and back. A lot of people have varying pressures for different needs, but I would stay pretty close to the Suzuki recommended numbers.

Congrats on the bike!

Happy Riding!

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by Tocsik on 05/30/14 at 19:28:38

With the Raptor manual petcock, do you have to turn it 'off' every time you park the bike?

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by S-P on 05/30/14 at 21:05:46


2E29232B25392E29232B2E29232B400 wrote:
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I believe stock rear is 140/80 15. And I think some easily do 140/90. Also 130/90 will fit.


I did 140/90 but the side bar bolts under the fender rubbed. You'll need to have the shop change the bolts to round/flush heads.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by jgrandmont on 05/31/14 at 04:58:47

Per the belt guard sticker, front tire pressure is 29 for both solo and 2-up. Rear is 33 for solo and 36 for 2-up.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by ihasabike on 05/31/14 at 05:04:44


013A36263C3E550 wrote:
That soon on the tensioner, huh? Guess I'll be contacting Verslagen sooner than expected.  It actually has less than 3k on it so I'm ok for now.


I contacted Verslagen very recently and he said he is out of modded adjusters right now and to contact him again after I have at least 4000 miles on the bike, because that still leaves plenty of time.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/14 at 12:18:32


636E7B68676D6466677D090 wrote:
Per the belt guard sticker, front tire pressure is 29 for both solo and 2-up. Rear is 33 for solo and 36 for 2-up.


& recently in a tire wear thread WD said he runs 40 PSI. Now, to me, that just screams flat spotting the center, but WD has more time on bikes than I have in cars, so,, talk to him & ask him what the details are,, or maybe I am wrong thinking thats what I read,, dont just go do it,,

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by jcstokes on 05/31/14 at 15:49:22

I would certainly turn you Raptor off at the end of each days ride and if you are going to work, it's probably ok to leave it on for short durations.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by Greg on 05/31/14 at 18:04:45

I never turn mine off.  I even left it on over the winter.  No issues.  

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by pgambr on 05/31/14 at 19:18:27


67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:
[quote author=636E7B68676D6466677D090 link=1401489893/0#8 date=1401537527]Per the belt guard sticker, front tire pressure is 29 for both solo and 2-up. Rear is 33 for solo and 36 for 2-up.


& recently in a tire wear thread WD said he runs 40 PSI. Now, to me, that just screams flat spotting the center, but WD has more time on bikes than I have in cars, so,, talk to him & ask him what the details are,, or maybe I am wrong thinking thats what I read,, dont just go do it,,
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I have mine at 35 psi.  It just feels mushy to me if they are not firm.   :D

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by WD on 05/31/14 at 23:21:09


405F595E43447545754D5F53182A0 wrote:
[quote author=636E7B68676D6466677D090 link=1401489893/0#8 date=1401537527]Per the belt guard sticker, front tire pressure is 29 for both solo and 2-up. Rear is 33 for solo and 36 for 2-up.


& recently in a tire wear thread WD said he runs 40 PSI. Now, to me, that just screams flat spotting the center, but WD has more time on bikes than I have in cars, so,, talk to him & ask him what the details are,, or maybe I am wrong thinking thats what I read,, dont just go do it,,
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If the tire is rated for it and the bike has a swingarm, AT LEAST 40 psi front and rear. When I did a fork boot install on Sam earlier this week, I added a full inch of fluid to each fork leg. And I have the Progressive shocks currently set on midrange in the rear. I want to feel what the bike is trying to tell me, not the too soft tire sidewalls and tread shucking and jiving.

Rigid frame, regardless of the fork type, gets 40psi front and 25-35psi in the rear unless I have full 5" seat springs, in which case the rear is also at 40 psi.

Flat spotted? Nope, I usually have to change the foot pegs every other tire change. My bikes tend to have a pretty steep lean angle due to the firm tires, and I use every bit of it. My pegs end up chisel pointed.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by S-P on 06/01/14 at 08:29:08


0516520 wrote:
Flat spotted? Nope, I usually have to change the foot pegs every other tire change. My bikes tend to have a pretty steep lean angle due to the firm tires, and I use every bit of it. My pegs end up chisel pointed.


What kind of tires do you run? I'm planning on doing more "canyon running" than anything else.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by WD on 06/01/14 at 13:56:55


5B5C4D5E4D4658495D44280 wrote:
[quote author=0516520 link=1401489893/0#14 date=1401603669]

Flat spotted? Nope, I usually have to change the foot pegs every other tire change. My bikes tend to have a pretty steep lean angle due to the firm tires, and I use every bit of it. My pegs end up chisel pointed.


What kind of tires do you run? I'm planning on doing more "canyon running" than anything else. [/quote]

I prefer Dunlop 404s or Dunlop Qualifiers, the cruiser version, not the sportbike version.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by S-P on 06/01/14 at 14:00:28


0C1F5B0 wrote:
[quote author=5B5C4D5E4D4658495D44280 link=1401489893/15#15 date=1401636548]
I prefer Dunlop 404s or Dunlop Qualifiers, the cruiser version, not the sportbike version.



Thanks! Stock sizes?

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by WD on 06/01/14 at 14:14:33


7C7B6A796A617F6E7A630F0 wrote:
[quote author=0C1F5B0 link=1401489893/15#16 date=1401656215][quote author=5B5C4D5E4D4658495D44280 link=1401489893/15#15 date=1401636548]
I prefer Dunlop 404s or Dunlop Qualifiers, the cruiser version, not the sportbike version.



Thanks! Stock sizes?
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No. 90/90 front and 130/90 rear preferred, but the Qualifier only was available in 140/90. Sam currently has a 100/90 Shinko 712F (very light duty) and a 140/90 Qualifier. I picked up a pair of close out Qualifiers a few years ago for $36 each plus tax. Motorcycle Superstore has the matching fronts, you want to look up tires for a VS1400 or a VS800.

Title: Re: Best first mods for newb
Post by Dave on 06/02/14 at 03:50:42


556E6272686A010 wrote:
With the Raptor manual petcock, do you have to turn it 'off' every time you park the bike?


I don't turn my petcock off during the ride - but I turn it off about 1/2 mile from my house....the bike runs out of gas as I pull into my driveway.  Just for piece of mind knowing the bike has almost no ethanol fuel sitting in the float bowl.

Dave

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