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Message started by raydawg on 05/23/14 at 04:18:18

Title: VA.........
Post by raydawg on 05/23/14 at 04:18:18

I hope the press doesn't drop the ball on this very important matter.....

Obama ran with a pledge to repair the system, yet......

I am not laying blame on him, it was a problem before he arrived, and he acknowledged it, yet.......

Please gang, we celebrate observance of those who assure we have the right to disagree under one flag, this weekend, lets support them with a united front, repairing and fixing a very broken system.

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/14 at 06:59:48

Its been busted for a long time, he knew about it, doesnt do squat, defends the guy in charge, its just more goob crap,,

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by WD on 05/24/14 at 08:19:38

You mean you don't like drunken/drug abusing orderlies that abuse/rob/neglect patients? Or foreign born nurses that can't read English dispensing medications, changing dressings or abusing/robbing/neglecting patients? Or the 3rd world med school drop outs imitating doctors that couldn't diagnose a pimple on the end of their own noses routinely killing our veterans?

If you were an enlistedman, unless you have a Purple Heart, Bronze Star or similar costume jewelry, the VA is no place for you to be treated.

If you were an officer, you might get treated as well as the "doctor's" dog.

The VA is a farce. Creme de la crap of the medical world.

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by raydawg on 05/24/14 at 08:39:23


0B185C0 wrote:
You mean you don't like drunken/drug abusing orderlies that abuse/rob/neglect patients? Or foreign born nurses that can't read English dispensing medications, changing dressings or abusing/robbing/neglecting patients? Or the 3rd world med school drop outs imitating doctors that couldn't diagnose a pimple on the end of their own noses routinely killing our veterans?

If you were an enlistedman, unless you have a Purple Heart, Bronze Star or similar costume jewelry, the VA is no place for you to be treated.

If you were an officer, you might get treated as well as the "doctor's" dog.

The VA is a farce. Creme de la crap of the medical world.


And this is what concerns me with "Obamacare"  :-X

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by thumperclone on 05/24/14 at 09:13:43


0714500 wrote:
You mean you don't like drunken/drug abusing orderlies that abuse/rob/neglect patients? Or foreign born nurses that can't read English dispensing medications, changing dressings or abusing/robbing/neglecting patients? Or the 3rd world med school drop outs imitating doctors that couldn't diagnose a pimple on the end of their own noses routinely killing our veterans?

If you were an enlistedman, unless you have a Purple Heart, Bronze Star or similar costume jewelry, the VA is no place for you to be treated.

If you were an officer, you might get treated as well as the "doctor's" dog.

The VA is a farce. Creme de la crap of the medical world.


our local va hosp is nothing like you describe
ex enlisted here r.a.
been under their care for over 2 years my only complaint is yearly
$$ qualifying  I understand  why but that's not what we were promised
my co pays so far have been for meds only and darn cheap comparied to retail$$

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by raydawg on 05/24/14 at 09:55:47


4E524F574A5F48595655545F3A0 wrote:
[quote author=0714500 link=1400843898/0#2 date=1400944778]You mean you don't like drunken/drug abusing orderlies that abuse/rob/neglect patients? Or foreign born nurses that can't read English dispensing medications, changing dressings or abusing/robbing/neglecting patients? Or the 3rd world med school drop outs imitating doctors that couldn't diagnose a pimple on the end of their own noses routinely killing our veterans?

If you were an enlistedman, unless you have a Purple Heart, Bronze Star or similar costume jewelry, the VA is no place for you to be treated.

If you were an officer, you might get treated as well as the "doctor's" dog.

The VA is a farce. Creme de la crap of the medical world.


our local va hosp is nothing like you describe
ex enlisted here r.a.
been under their care for over 2 years my only complaint is yearly
$$ qualifying  I understand  why but that's not what we were promised
my co pays so far have been for meds only and darn cheap comparied to retail$$
[/quote]

Could you please elaborate your experience a little more Tclone? I don't want to pry, but I respect firsthand knowledge as opposed to bias and agenda driven news.......

Thanks for your service  :-*

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by thumperclone on 05/24/14 at 11:20:50

pm sent ray

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by 12Bravo on 05/26/14 at 11:39:56

I have received excellent care at the Harry S Truman VA in Columbia, Mo for the past 18 years. The VA Hospital in downtown St Louis is another story all together

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by old_rider on 05/26/14 at 12:02:11

Before I got out my eye test showed I would be needing reading glasses soon.  My hearing test had been "reset" four times to higher volumes and lower frequencies (I worked on jet aircraft, and turboprops)

When I went to the VA in pensicola, they set me up with an optician near me for a free pair of glasses.

At the facility they made molds of my ear canals and set me up with some hearing aids...both ears...

Two years after I was out I was told the VA no longer pays for glasses. My hearing aids I put down after about four months because the batteries kept dying after about 4 hours and I couldn't keep up with taking them in and out when I had to use power tools. I haven't had them in my ears for about 15 years now. I think I will go and attempt to get a new pair.

I was also given orthodics for my feet... I have not been back to the VA for about six years, they now have a satellite facility about 20 minutes away (I stopped there once to make sure they had me on record). Guess its about time I went and updated them on my health....


Title: Re: VA.........
Post by WD on 05/26/14 at 23:45:18

The north Memphis satellite campus is tolerable, but the hospital will kill you...

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by Serowbot on 05/27/14 at 00:56:22

I've had a few friends that worked at the VA... they were dedicated...
Regardless of what happened higher up...

My dad died during surgery at a VA hospital... but I do trust they did their best...

I do my best when it matters most... and I think it's just human nature...
Nobody wants to do a bad job...
Especially when it matters most...
It's human nature to try our best... that's the one positive about video games...
...(maybe the only one)...

I don't blame the top or the bottom for what has happened in the VA...
I am concerned about those paper pushers in the middle...
They don't see people... they see numbers...
If this scandal proves out... they should be prosecuted criminally...

I think it's often this disassociated middle, that fails... they feel pressures from above, but aren't invested below...
Over all,.. less middle makes things work better...  :-?...

Peace to our Vets... ;)...

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by thumperclone on 05/27/14 at 05:40:09


71727A6C777A7B6C1E0 wrote:
Before I got out my eye test showed I would be needing reading glasses soon.  

When I went to the VA in pensicola, they set me up with an optician near me for a free pair of glasses.


didn't have to pay for mine

you have to fill out a "means test" its a finical statement
and get your photo id

Title: Re: VA.........
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 05/27/14 at 05:59:17

I agree about the comment that most people try to do their best.  My family doc is 54 years old.  At my last visit, he and I were making idle chat about when we'd each retire.  We have been good friends for years in addition to the doctor/patient relationship.  He said he's thinking of working in private practice for 6 more years, and going out at age 60.  He said then he thinks he'll apply at the VA, and work there for a few years to "give back".
I have no idea what VA pays the docs who work there, but I doubt that is behind my friend's thinking.

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