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Title: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/13/14 at 12:36:25 What is the purpose??? I have the 150 main and 55 pilot put in that I received in the lancer jetset. Lancer sent me 3 little washers that when stacked add to about 2/3 the thickness of the stock spacer on the needle jet. Do I just those or do I have to use a plastic #4 spacer? What will this mod do?? |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Serowbot on 05/13/14 at 12:43:47 It richens the midrange needle jet... #55 pilot may be a tad large based on the #150 main... Dropping a step or two to a #52.5 or a #50 will help mpg's... if your mileage is overly affected... |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/13/14 at 12:48:37 I did the #55 pilot because where I live I am around 1300 ft above sea level here in nw arkansas. I read on the 4 things all owners should know thread that I need to change to a 55 pilot :-? |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Serowbot on 05/13/14 at 12:54:33 :-[... Oh,.. you went by my advice... ;D... I may need to change that... Since Dave did his 02 sensor work,.. I've come to believe we are generally going a bit rich on the pilot in general... I'm sure it will run fine... but, if you find your mpg's suffering too much, a drop on the pilot will help... Sorry for the confusion... and imperfect advice... :-/... |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/13/14 at 13:08:59 its no problem! ;D The bike has a harley sportser exhaust, and I want to put a k&n drop in in the airbox. I had a question about the door to the side. Can I leave the door off and put the metal cover back on to let more air in and that be fine with the rejetting? Should I stick with that #55 pilot or should I go back down? And should I do the spacer mod? |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Serowbot on 05/13/14 at 13:38:36 All very individual things... my bike didn't like the airbox open, it ran better with it closed... Easy enough to try,.. and put back, if it don't work well... I tried all kinds of changes before I settled on what worked best for me... Let us know what you find... Share the knowledge.. ;)... |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/13/14 at 13:40:43 Will do! I should have it done by the end of the week. Waiting on my versy it didnt come in today like it was supposed to. What pilot are you running in your carb? |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Serowbot on 05/13/14 at 16:05:00 I have a #150/#50 w/2/3 thickness spacer... I'm a 2600ft and often ride above 4k elevation... very dry here... I have a k/n slip-in, Harley shorty, and ported exhaust hole...plus a Versy adjuster... 33k miles on the 97' bike... she runs much better than new... ;)... PS... I made some jetting corrections to my "4 things" thread... thanks ... http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rIMG_0228_zps47ff5e3e.jpg |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by doh13 on 05/13/14 at 20:26:23 Don't mean to hijack the thread but i think my questions will help both of us. I bought a savage that came with a supertrapp exhaust that was fully open (no baffle plates on the end) and it looks like the stock carb was running lean as the pipe is awful blue. I am in the process of cleaning the carb/tank and wondering as well should I use a couple #4 washers like these http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281282845145?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 in place of the stock spacer? Also should i use your jetting suggestions of (At or near sea-level... Swap to a #150 main jet, and a #52.5 pilot..) for the supertrapp with a stock filter or can i get by with stock carb jets and just turn the idle air screw out? (it was at 1.5 turns out for the stock setting). I am at sea level and i also have 8 of the baffle plates that go on the end of the supertrapp and i read you can mimic the stock muffler back pressure with a certain amount installed i Don't need tonnes of power at the moment i just want it to run smoothly and not too lean. |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/14/14 at 11:02:34 2A3C2B362E3B362D590 wrote:
I put in the #52.5 for my pilot 8-) it took me about an hour to get the carb back in the bike. My dad said you need two people to do it, but I said no a few bad words and a big slice in my thumb puts it in. Feels like I won the powerball after it went back in. ;D I did the white spacer I had to shave down one fromthe store. We dont have an ace just lowes and home depot. For the future any advice on removing/reinstalling the stupid carb without it begin so difficult? |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Dave on 05/14/14 at 11:25:55 When I work on a carb and need to get to the slide or remove the whole carb....I remove the seat, tank, and battery box.....then the carb is easy to remove and install. Taking those parts off only takes about 5 minutes when you have done it a few times. While the carb is out I replace the phillips screws with ones that accept allen wrenches. Then I can do jet changes easily as the float bowl screws can be dropped out with everthing elese in place.....and only when the carb needs to come out do I go through the process of removing the seat, tank and battery box. |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by verslagen1 on 05/14/14 at 11:37:18 Yes, replace the bowl and cap screws with allen head bolts then everything but cleaning can be done w/out removing the carb. put a towel under the carb so if you drop a screw it won't take a half hour to find. and if you're having trouble dropping the bowl cause the battery box is in the way... hook a ratcheting tie down around the bat box and tighten it up till it clears. |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/14/14 at 15:47:37 sweet I may do that battery box. Already ahead of you guys on the bolts with allen heads. Verslagen the tensioner is on and ready to roll. 8-) |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Dave on 05/15/14 at 05:35:45 415245445B5650525906370 wrote:
Good tip. I had one screw drop and fall down into the area of the front pulley...since the bike leans that way when on the sidestand. It took a long time to recover it. |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/20/14 at 06:07:38 6274637E66737E65110 wrote:
The bike is running great! 8-) only thing is I backed out the airmix screw one turn counterclockwise and the bike is still backfiring. should I move it out more? I did the can thing for my muffler, and my exhaust gasket is new. other than that its running great |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by Dave on 05/20/14 at 06:46:29 6D666F60636F602E0 wrote:
The bike is running great! 8-) only thing is I backed out the airmix screw one turn counterclockwise and the bike is still backfiring. should I move it out more? I did the can thing for my muffler, and my exhaust gasket is new. other than that its running great [/quote] You may not be able to correct the backfire with the jetting.....it is a big single and when you chop the throttle....they burble, blat and backfire. Trying to jet to eliminate the backfire is a false approach to a good running engine. You can help to minimize the noise by holding the throttle open just a tad as you shift....don't let it close completely while you clutch and shift gears. Also when slowing down hold the throttle open just a bit.....not enough to make power - but just enough to allow a little air and fuel into the cylinder. Using that approach I can ride around and make very little noise......or if I chop the throttle I can burble, pop, crackle and bang with the best of em'! Dave |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by CHANMAN on 05/20/14 at 06:51:36 Thanks Dave. I haven't tuned just to get rid of backfire, but I wanted to lower the amount in the process. It is not as bad as before and the bike is running strong |
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Title: Re: White Spacer mod???? Post by S-P on 05/20/14 at 15:51:49 444F46494A4649070 wrote:
I accepted the backfire because the bike ran great. At shutdown I just pull the choke out and the engine just dies with no backfire. If it keeps running you just hit the kill switch. Small price of inconvenience to pay for a good running bike. :) |
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