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Message started by Bluesman on 05/11/14 at 07:55:38

Title: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Bluesman on 05/11/14 at 07:55:38

I live in a ´hood where I often find stray dope addicts and other hooligans fooling around with other peoples´mopeds, scooters and motorbikes. I need alarm advice. What kind of stuff do you guys use? It´s gotta be small/compact and loud as hell... any ideas/tips?

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/11/14 at 08:41:51

PVC pipe, tarps, build a little shed, wire it with whatever. Bust a wire, trip a relay, fire an air horn,,

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by WD on 05/11/14 at 09:13:17

My friend that lives in the deepest dankest darkest ghetto of King County WA uses pitbull terriers and 120V "fryer wires"... If the bike thieves get past the dogs and grab a bike, they get electrocuted. Just enough amperage to knock them out cold, they usually wake up when Johnny Law "cuffs and stuffs" them... No, it isn't legal, but the so far police think it is funny as all get out.

You're in the land of some of the best custom bike/car builders in the world. Swing by a shop and ask them what they use.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by OdysseusNY on 05/11/14 at 10:49:34

Don't street park anything you're that attached to. They are pretty much useless except for annoying people. I'd be more worried about someone kicking my bike over out of frustration because of a false alarm that woke them up (they are very common here and people get very annoyed at them) than I'd be confident they'd actually stop a thief/vandal.

The whole shock thing sounds more likely to kill a stray dog than knock out a robber. And then your bike will smell like dead dog and burnt fur, and you'll have killed Lassie.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Serowbot on 05/11/14 at 11:06:46

They sell disc locks with built-in motion alarms...
That seems like the simplest solution...
http://images3.revzilla.com/product_images/0053/2067/xena_xx6_disc_lock_zoom.jpg

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by ToesNose on 05/11/14 at 12:17:00

Rent a garage, find a few other bike guys in the neighborhood and share the cost if you don't have enough money ;)

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/11/14 at 12:48:37

Toes hits it on the Nose..

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Boofer on 05/11/14 at 21:56:38

I'm all about sittin' and thinking up goofy stuff that actually works. Parking next to a cross-tie with a hole or two drilled through with a rigged attaching rod and a "hidden" padlock is way too much trouble for a doper. A cheap JC Whitney motion alarm would finish the deal. Or use a front wheel chock attached to an anchored sheet of plywood. Just lock the wheel to the chock. Or---can you get radioactive material at your WalMart? ;D

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by wambr on 05/11/14 at 22:08:54

I got his bike simple and relatively cheap signalling(about 17 dollars) this alarm has one drawback-there is no feedback on the keychain.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Gowor on 05/12/14 at 00:52:08

I bought the Xena disc lock with motion-triggered alarm. The salesman told me that they are OK if you can hear it and react (I use it at the office parking lot), but thieves have a very simple solution: they put a bucket full of insulation foam over the lock, put the front wheel on a skateboard, and off they go.

There is a great thread about bike security on reddit, written by a former motorcycle thief:http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/t5shp/ex_thief_chopshop_operator_ama/c4jsfw9.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by ToesNose on 05/12/14 at 04:07:43

If a true thief can see it and wants it, he will find a way to get it more times then not unfortunately.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Bluesman on 05/12/14 at 07:19:08

I´m not worried about the professionals - as you said, if they want it, there´s nothing I can do. It´s them vandals, moped/scooter thieves and the rest of the misfits I want to deter. Lately, they have been seen with a 1,6m bolt shearer. They whacked my Vespa´s ABUS Kryptonite padlock in just a pinch. And that one had 14mm hardened steel to cut through. And then there´s the drunks who think my seat is a suitable platform for launching fireworks and firecrackers....idiots. The XENA lock looks promising, if it can deliver a loud enough sound. Combined with a hidden second alarm of the cheapo chinese type...would probably be good. I´ll keep looking. Thanks for the tips, also "the not-so-clever /dangerous to the public" ones

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Gowor on 05/12/14 at 07:39:11

Xena lock is loud enough for my ears to hurt when it goes off if I don't unlock it fast enough, so you can try. It should scare away the firework people :-)

Other than that, get the strongest chain you can find, and put it through the rear wheel (the front wheel can be removed together with the chain very easily), or better- through the frame (just be careful near the exhaust).

The Savage is not really that valuable compared to other bikes, so I guess if I put enough locks on mine, an average thief will decide it's not worth the effort.

And since the oil leaks started, I got the additional "piece of junk" urban camouflage :-P

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/12/14 at 08:04:08

Get a pellet gun,,just a pistol is enough,,, 2 or 3 strokes & POW,,blue jeans will (probably) stop it, or get a paintball gun! Heeeeck YEA! They sting like the dickens, pose no real threat AND Mark the perps!

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/14 at 08:53:47

If I were going to do it...
always use the steering lock and rig a pepper spray to go off if the steering is turned.
If you have a windshield aim it at it so it creates a cloud that envelops the bike.
non-lethal deterrent that most won't be able to ignore.
But if it does go off, you'll probably won't be able to go near it till it's washed. 8-)

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by old_rider on 05/12/14 at 08:58:44

Ever see those battery powered air freshener dispensers with motion sensor? Put a can of buck pee or skunk scent in one and tape it to your bike.
If it goes off, oh well, you will have to wash it like above stated, but the person who gets sprayed won't go near the bike again.

Same goes for your house....put them on or near your windows, that way if they go off the perps will smell like skunks and the police will know for sure they were at your windows.

LOL, just make sure you know how to turn them off quickly....they have a delay of like ten seconds, then they go off.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Bluesman on 05/12/14 at 09:13:09

ey, c´mon, guys..keep it realistic :-) We have LAWS here....even just carrying pepper spray is illegal..using it will send you to jail. We care more about the villains than the victims here... Now, if I had my way, and if I were to detect a bike thief fooling around with my bike, I would slowly descend the stairs, sneak up on him and whip the mofo up real good with a long bullwhip. But...it´s deemed illegal. As is skunk spray, razorblades, soft air guns and laser pointers. And carrying a screwdriver or a wrench in public is also illegal. Not to mention a knife. Anything that can be used to defend yourself or your property is practically illegal. All that remains is deterrents. Having a pitbull on patrol is not one of the legal ones either. :-/

So...I have to look at "civilized" methods, not useful or pragmatic. :-)

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/14 at 10:29:30

I think your only recourse is to have a defective bike.
Can't be blamed if a couple of wires are shorted to the either grip and frame can ya?
120v should set him down real quick.
and he's not likely to come back and complain about it.

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Dane Allen on 05/12/14 at 11:12:41

1B352C3C2A343837590 wrote:

So...I have to look at "civilized" methods, not useful or pragmatic. :-)

Based on your description I dispute the assertion that you live in a civilized place. Maybe just tarp it over with a cable going through the grommets and cinch at the bottom...

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by shorty on 05/13/14 at 07:27:06

I like Bot's thingy in reply #4

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by old_rider on 05/13/14 at 08:55:05

wow.... so many restrictions were you live.... I would go with danes idea then... a tarp with a cable...
And if you see the young buck with the cutter... throw a potted flower at him or something.....

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Dave on 05/13/14 at 09:32:06

You should get a cover.....painted to look like this!

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by shorty on 05/13/14 at 10:32:09

how 'bout a sticker that says: "insured by Smith & Wesson"...LOL

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by wickedbiker on 05/13/14 at 10:38:20

I use one of these it's less than 6 dollars and it works great it has a very high pitch alarm and people will know if someone is stealing your bike it also has a pretty cool way to key in your 3 letter code. Never had a problem and people hear me set the alarm when I leave the bike I like that

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bike-Alarm-Lock-Bicycle-Motorbike-Moped-Cycling-Security-Sound-Loud-110DB-/160881887870?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25754eca7e

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/BC8AAOxy4XNSRTQ9/$(KGrHqF,!rEFJ!zmuzHIBSRTQ9Ho-g~~60_57.JPG

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by Bluesman on 05/13/14 at 10:55:42

Yep, small devices may look harmless but can deter also if they have ear-piercing sound. I was thinking of combining something like the XENA lock and something hidden. We´ll see. Also, the "Protected by S&W" idea is cool, but "Property of H A" might be more effective, but since I don´t want to affiliate with them...no go. Tnx for good and funny ideas, guys :-) Now keep calm & move on, I´ll let you know later what I decided. ::)

Way back, in the black & white times, I once saw a sticker on a Panhead saying:

"If you value your life as much as I value this bike - don´t fook with it!" 8-)

Title: Re: Alarm for the Savage - ideas?
Post by LS650THUMPER on 07/19/14 at 14:49:35

Magnetic sign on tank..... "Honda rebel" 250 no one will touch it !!! ;D