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Message started by Beagle on 05/07/14 at 06:28:53

Title: Vibration
Post by Beagle on 05/07/14 at 06:28:53

Does other people with Savages or S40's seem to get vibration from their motorcycle when they get at faster speeds.  When I get up to 60-65, it seems to be OK but after that, I start feeling my motorcycle vibrate more and my mirrors are even blurry from the vibration.  It is just me or is this normal?

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by Dave on 05/07/14 at 06:33:10

Check your motor mounts for tightness - especially the one at the top of the cylinder with the plate that connects between the head and top tube.  Sometimes the mounts are loose and it allows more vibration than normal.

Dave

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by WD on 05/07/14 at 08:00:48

I ran the top mount single bolted for years. One in the engine (doesn't count) and the lower one in the frame, since the upper bolt interfered with my fuel tank.

Check the riser nuts under your top triple tree. The risers/bar "float" on rubber dampers that shrink as they age and dry out. Polyurethane swaybar endlink bushings can be shaved down into perfect replacements. But regular stock replacements are cheaper, less work and do the job sufficiently. Add an extra washer on the bottom side to draw them down a bit tighter as they shrink.


Title: Re: Vibration
Post by ToesNose on 05/07/14 at 12:58:12

Yea I get some vibration over 70Mph, but nothing that you wouldn't expect  :-?  It's a big single and a smaller lighter frame, not really made for laid back comfortable Interstate cruising.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by shorty on 05/07/14 at 15:49:42

mine starts to vibrate 70-75mph... I got used to it

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by OdysseusNY on 05/07/14 at 15:54:39

Mine has a particular vibration that starts up around 55 mph and dies down around 60 that is noticeable but doesn't bother me. In general it's not the smoothest ride but single cylinder vehicles tend to have a bit of vibration so I don't sweat it.

The speedo rattle bothers me a bit more and I might try to fix it one day.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by pgambr on 05/07/14 at 16:10:31


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The speedo rattle bothers me a bit more and I might try to fix it one day.


I fixed mine not to long ago and it wasn't very difficult at all.  I just put in rubber washers anywhere metal might hit or slap.  There is a real good thread in the tech section.  Probably a better & more permanent fix then what I did.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by OdysseusNY on 05/07/14 at 16:22:26


4F585E525D4D3F0 wrote:

Quote:
The speedo rattle bothers me a bit more and I might try to fix it one day.


I fixed mine not to long ago and it wasn't very difficult at all.  I just put in rubber washers anywhere metal might hit or slap.  There is a real good thread in the tech section.  Probably a better & more permanent fix then what I did.



Yeah I've actually seen the thread and am just being lazy about it.

Once I start my longer rides next week I'll be using earplugs and then it's even easier to ignore and I'll probably continue being lazy.  ;D

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by Kris01 on 05/07/14 at 16:29:54

Seems like anything above ~60 or so will vibrate a little more than normal.  Like was said previously, it's a big single.  It ain't no Cadillac!

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by 1st2know on 05/07/14 at 21:01:14

Last year I took my rear tire off and remounted it, but I didn't re-balance the wheel. I got mirror rattling vibration at anything above 50mph.(The mirrors were useless). Also, it hurt my wrists it was so bad. After I balanced the rear wheel, the severe vibration stopped.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/07/14 at 21:44:48

Theres a mark on tires that is supposed to be opposite(?) the valve stem,, either opposite or with,, cant uhmember..

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by verslagen1 on 05/07/14 at 22:13:54

There's a mark on new tires that marks the heavy side of the tire.

http://www.clarity.net/~adam/images/bike/tirechange/spot.jpg

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by WD on 05/07/14 at 22:58:14

Line the balance dot up WITH the valve stem. Rarely needs additional weight that way. I've mounted and balanced thousands of street motorcycle tires. The ones that required a bunch of weight were always credited back by the distributors and replaced free of charge as they were "culls" that slipped through quality control checks.

Been in and out of the motorcycle business since I was 15 back in 1987. The front on Pokey was done in the back of my truck with a tire spoon and a flathead screwdriver, while Sam's rear tire was being fought with in a tire machine. I bet Pine is STILL traumatized by some of the words/phrases he heard that day...  ::)

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by 1st2know on 05/08/14 at 11:49:18

Yeah, the metzler me880's come with a red dot (heavy spot), that should be opposed to the stem.

That dot wore off after a couple thousand miles (I should complain!)

Anyway, I marked the stem location with chalk(this decision was ill advised), and then I pried the tire off. I used Windex to help lube the beads over the rim. Do you see where my plan started falling apart?

Anyway, to re-balance, I had to take the tire half off, mount the tire without the tube, find the heavy spot, mark it with paint, let the paint dry.

Then, tire half off, tube in, tire back on, pumped up, then balance with weights.

So easy. It only took me three weeks to balance a wheel.  :-[

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by Beagle on 05/27/14 at 13:12:55

I think my motorcycle is OK and balanced alright.  I get a little vibrations but nothing major but I have noticed that sometimes when driving 60+ the mirrors seem blurry and even looking forward does too.   Someone I know said it's probably my new motorcycle helmet and it's not aerodynamic as it should be.   Any thoughts on that everyone?   I've also been adjusting my windshield some and maybe that has something to do with it.  Hmm...not sure now.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by verslagen1 on 05/27/14 at 13:56:05

ooooooh! snap!

someone just told you your head wasn't screwed on tight.   ;D


With my faceshield up, it vibrates due to turbulence off the windshield and sometimes gets bad enough to blur vision.  This bike has the sportshield on it, not the flyshield.  and I'm about to cut it down to match.

If your helmet fits loose you'll have the same issue.

angle the windshield up to get the turbulence over your head.
or in this summer heat, lower it.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by ihasabike on 05/28/14 at 18:06:28

I'm presently getting the gran tourism grips installed and the drag handlebar filled with #9 lead birdshot to reduce vibration, at the suggestion of WD.  I'll report back on the results.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by pgambr on 05/28/14 at 23:32:20

If your vibration is in the front end you may want to look at a fork brace.  That was the best $125 I spent on mine.  It eliminated all the wobbles and loose feelings.

http://tkat.com/forkbrace.html

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by Beagle on 05/29/14 at 08:15:49


7364626E6171030 wrote:
If your vibration is in the front end you may want to look at a fork brace.  That was the best $125 I spent on mine.  It eliminated all the wobbles and loose feelings.

http://tkat.com/forkbrace.html



Thanks!  Once I am able to ride some, whenever the weather gets better with no rain, I plan on trying to narrow it down.  This might be a fix.  :)

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by WD on 05/29/14 at 08:31:37


25242D3F2D2E2527294C0 wrote:
I'm presently getting the gran tourism grips installed and the drag handlebar filled with #9 lead birdshot to reduce vibration, at the suggestion of WD.  I'll report back on the results.


I picked that tip up from early 1970s chopper magazines. If it helped then, it will help now. NOTHING will kill all the vibration though, you have a huge piston in a hard mounted engine, no rubber power mounts. The frame is going to buzz and so will the bars. You are just tuning the frequency to hopefully feel it less.

Title: Re: Vibration
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/29/14 at 10:34:54

& check the motor mount bolts, which include the peg bolts, and work to learn the lightest grip you can have & still keep the gas on. Gloves w/ the gel pads helped me early on, before I had really focused on getting my grip lightened up. Some say the fork brace yielded no changes in handling. My opinion is opposite that. The brace made a very noticeable change for me. I had no $$$ in mine, it was a Superbrace & it was a gift from a friend, So, I didnt NEED to believe I had done  the right thing,, I only had a few minutes invested, no money,,I like the look of the T-Kat for some bikes, the Superbrace for others,, A rat lookin bobbed out ride NEEDS the T-Kat,,Its okay on a stock ride, but it has a more "Im Here" look & isnt all smooth & contoured like the S/brace. Its Gonna vibrate, WD has some good "Old School" answers, time tested & proven, You can win it, have fun,

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