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Message started by WD on 04/23/14 at 10:29:29

Title: Meet "Sam"... updated pics...
Post by WD on 04/23/14 at 10:29:29

Okay, here he is. Still have a ways to go, but, current as of today...

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/Sam1_zps25d4f8e8.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/Sam2_zps49e5e598.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/Sam3_zps8a443252.jpg

And the "gruesome twosome"... hard to believe they are the exact same starting platform... both have the same handlebar and engine, rear wheel, front fender and 95% of the chassis...
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/Sam4_zpsfb9945f0.jpg

Memphis Shades Big Shot gradient black windshield on modified 99 VN800A hardware. Police FL handlebar. Mirrors from Pine. Italian grips. Bell bicycle bag on the luggage rack. Factory case saver that needs to be painted since the chrome is peeling off in sheets... Still need to relocate the rear turn signals, add saddlebags, swap the taillight for a round or cat-eye version mounted under the fender. Fork sliders and side panel will be gloss black epoxy painted, and it will get a set of black fork gaiters to protect the tubes from road debris. I kind of like the stock exhaust sound, but, the big dork mobile muffler has to go...

Nothing fancy. It's just a bike. But you guys wanted pics so...

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by engineer on 04/23/14 at 11:14:59

Sam, the daily rider, looks good. Congrats on the new bike.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by Pine on 04/23/14 at 12:32:07

Looks good.
Did you hook up the tach... since you left the dash on there?

Are the handlebars wider? It needed that. I see you left risers on too.  

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by jcstokes on 04/23/14 at 13:13:38

"Sam" looks good just the way he is, you can ride and enjoy him,  and sort out the custom as time permits.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by LANCER on 04/23/14 at 20:33:17

"Back on the road again" ... oh, I'm singing, in case you couldn't hear me.   ;D

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 04/23/14 at 22:47:53


0930373C2D362B590 wrote:
Looks good.
Did you hook up the tach... since you left the dash on there?

Are the handlebars wider? It needed that. I see you left risers on too.  


Tach isn't hooked up yet, but likely will be.

Wider and lower. Those bars are off a Harley Davidson FL touring bike. It sits, rides, and handles like a 1958 DuoGlide. And leaks more than they did. I've got to find where the rear of the engine is puking oil (probably the speedometer drive). It's a Savage, they do that...  ::)

Risers are still there. Why not, they don't hurt anything.

Lisa ordered a new jacket, so getting her back riding as well. Have to sort out 1/2 mile of ultra fine wiring on her 800 Intruder, no power to the fuel pump, ignition switch, turn signals, horn... but plenty to the lights. Everything that doesn't work is tied into the safety switches (all bypassed, no change), neutral switch (can't find it) and black box...  >:( Plus it has 2 way beyond needing attention carburetors... $85/kit...  >:( >:(  And then they need to be synchronized...  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by old_rider on 04/24/14 at 07:14:26

Was going to ask about the risers, what did you use? 3/4" sockets?
How much did it bring it up? I am looking at bringing mine bars up/back a little without changing the cables.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 04/24/14 at 07:50:36


2F2C243229242532400 wrote:
Was going to ask about the risers, what did you use? 3/4" sockets?
How much did it bring it up? I am looking at bringing mine bars up/back a little without changing the cables.


If you look really close, you can just see the riser additions. They clamp into the stock riser set and are infinitely adjustable. Basically half dogbones, solid bar lower stubs. I think they are 1" tall, but, ask Pine, they were on the machine when he sold it to me. All I'm for certain on is that the big FL bar, in that riser combo, has everything maxed out.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by Pine on 04/24/14 at 10:09:19


5447030 wrote:
[quote author=2F2C243229242532400 link=1398274170/0#6 date=1398348866]Was going to ask about the risers, what did you use? 3/4" sockets?
How much did it bring it up? I am looking at bringing mine bars up/back a little without changing the cables.


If you look really close, you can just see the riser additions. They clamp into the stock riser set and are infinitely adjustable. Basically half dogbones, solid bar lower stubs. I think they are 1" tall, but, ask Pine, they were on the machine when he sold it to me. All I'm for certain on is that the big FL bar, in that riser combo, has everything maxed out.[/quote]


http://roxspeedfx.com/product/harley-bar-risers-barback-suzuki-yamaha-kawasaki.htm

Nope.. Old-rider you picked the closer bike....
I bought those new last summer.  I kept them short ( 2") so I would not need to re-do cables at all.  Adding the wider bars.. I am sure put those cables at their extreme. But asthetically, and functionally, the bike is probably much better off with wider bars.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 04/24/14 at 10:43:06


447D7A71607B66140 wrote:
[quote author=5447030 link=1398274170/0#7 date=1398351036][quote author=2F2C243229242532400 link=1398274170/0#6 date=1398348866]Was going to ask about the risers, what did you use? 3/4" sockets?
How much did it bring it up? I am looking at bringing mine bars up/back a little without changing the cables.


If you look really close, you can just see the riser additions. They clamp into the stock riser set and are infinitely adjustable. Basically half dogbones, solid bar lower stubs. I think they are 1" tall, but, ask Pine, they were on the machine when he sold it to me. All I'm for certain on is that the big FL bar, in that riser combo, has everything maxed out.[/quote]


http://roxspeedfx.com/product/harley-bar-risers-barback-suzuki-yamaha-kawasaki.htm

Nope.. Old-rider you picked the closer bike....
I bought those new last summer.  I kept them short ( 2") so I would not need to re-do cables at all.  Adding the wider bars.. I am sure put those cables at their extreme. But asthetically, and functionally, the bike is probably much better off with wider bars. [/quote]

I do need to snip and extend the harnesses for the switches. The bars I got are already cut for internal wiring, really will clean up the big bar look.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by old_rider on 04/26/14 at 20:04:46


0D34333829322F5D0 wrote:
[quote author=5447030 link=1398274170/0#7 date=1398351036][quote author=2F2C243229242532400 link=1398274170/0#6 date=1398348866]Was going to ask about the risers, what did you use? 3/4" sockets?
How much did it bring it up? I am looking at bringing mine bars up/back a little without changing the cables.


If you look really close, you can just see the riser additions. They clamp into the stock riser set and are infinitely adjustable. Basically half dogbones, solid bar lower stubs. I think they are 1" tall, but, ask Pine, they were on the machine when he sold it to me. All I'm for certain on is that the big FL bar, in that riser combo, has everything maxed out.[/quote]


http://roxspeedfx.com/product/harley-bar-risers-barback-suzuki-yamaha-kawasaki.htm

Nope.. Old-rider you picked the closer bike....
I bought those new last summer.  I kept them short ( 2") so I would not need to re-do cables at all.  Adding the wider bars.. I am sure put those cables at their extreme. But asthetically, and functionally, the bike is probably much better off with wider bars. [/quote]


Would the elkhorn bars need new cables with a 2" riser?  I would rather not have to deal with all the electrics and throttle ect.... change outs.


Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 04/27/14 at 08:22:59

If you have the Ironhead Sportster bars of the LS650P, you can go as high as 10" rise bars in the stock riser set. With no mods to the cables or wires other than some minor (very minor) rerouting. So a couple inch riser addition is no problem at all. Don't even need to reroute anything.

I'm only going to lengthen the switch harnesses so I can run them in the bar. I might have a longer black brake hose made for aesthetic reasons, but probably won't. This one is a rider, not a potential show pony.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by old_rider on 04/27/14 at 08:55:48

Its something I will be looking to do after this years riding...

I am going to thin the weight as much as possible and give my self a little bit more "lay back" riding position. Knowing my luck I will probably go for some apes but tilt them back toward me instead of forward and up.

I am going to make a long backrest the for rider position and no passenger seat (mama has her own bike).

Going to extend the pegs forward about 4" and fab up a highway foot rest and hope it doesn't get in the wheel radius for turning.... if I have to I will extend the forks and drop the back...a little....

I am one for prepairing a long time in advance...got the idea in my head and probably will never put it down on paper :D

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 04/27/14 at 12:19:11

13.5 inch rise, stock cables, extended wires. It worked, barely...
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Cars%20Trucks%20Motorcycles/J-bike/DSC00001_zpsb60221b3.jpg

Clutch cable ate the tank paint...
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Cars%20Trucks%20Motorcycles/J-bike/buycables_zpscb12bc62.jpg

Photos were from before "Stinky" (Lisa's son) wrecked the bike, puncturing the tank and pretzeling the rear fender.

Post wreck with 15 inch rise apehangers, solo seat, dirt tracker tank and FL rear fender. My favorite combo, but, my 2008 wreck that shattered my shoulder makes apes no longer very feasible...
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Savage/chikstik1_zps58d25c67.jpg

Title: Re: Meet "Sam", the 2003 daily rider...
Post by WD on 05/06/14 at 07:23:18

And "Sam" pretty much finished up. Constantly have cars slowing when they see the bike coming, it does sort of look like an old English police motorcycle... The fact I wear a police pattern half helmet, jackboots with my pants tucked into them, and I'm white (I work in Memphis, apparently I'm a rarity) may contribute to that.  ;D

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/sam_left_zps56cde95d.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/sam_front_zps48bec830.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/sam_right_zpsdf86bd14.jpg

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/Jeffs%20pix/Sam/sam_rear_zpsefcd61f6.jpg

Ordering larger red rear turn signals today, dual filament so they double as running lights. I "might" still hang a small growler horn or siren on the engine guard, and add a set of small passing lamps after changing every bulb to l.e.d.s to balance the current draw.

I decided that the P in LS650P means Police, just like a KZ900/1000P or FLH-P/FXR-P. Going to see what having the real Sam's badge and dates of birth/death done up as side panel decals or a tank top decal  would run me.

Title: Re: Meet "Sam"... updated pics...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/06/14 at 07:52:26

I gotta say, I like it. It looks like a bike thats friendly to ride,,BUT,, I have a Pritty fair grasp of "You", & I find it just a bit odd that theres still so much shiny stuff & ( I know, weve talked about this) & that Chrome TRash Can muffler still hangin there,, Ill be truly shocked if there arent some changes in less than a year. Or are ya hangin onto that muffler to keep the MPG as high as possible? Thatd make sense considering the commute,, My girl was able to get 51 MPG with the Dyna, Stage One cam, & the jetting. I could manage 49, but, I didnt spend that much time "at speed" & I didnt have a windscreen & I am not 6'2 with size 14 boots working as air brakes, either,, I dunno if running the road in 5th with that load would be easier on gas than running me down country roads & playing in the corners & accelerating the way I did. I would expect that if the cam stayed stock & a guy rode "intelligently" he could keep the MPG up pretty good,

Title: Re: Meet "Sam"... updated pics...
Post by Pine on 05/06/14 at 10:12:05

Looking good!

I still say those small saddle bags are about the perfect size ( visually) for the bike. BTW the nylon rain protectors are in the pockets. They have never been used.


Title: Re: Meet "Sam"... updated pics...
Post by WD on 05/07/14 at 09:17:43

Memphis PD and Shelby County SD, not to mention the State Patrol, are cracking down on bikes around here. "Trash can" muffler is staying. I get friendly waves from the police instead of pulled over.

Turn signals, mufflers and dual mirrors are NOT currently required in TN, but, I use them anyway. They see this bike almost every day, they seem to think it is pretty much 100% legal as is, so... not tempting fate with Sam.

The orange/cream one has had county mounties pull into the yard to take a closer look at it, and it's in pieces. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it will draw way too much attention with its loud pipe. I drove the truck behind Lancer, Verslagen, MMRanch and Doug on his 1500 Drifter with barely baffled straight shots... sounded like a cross between CR500 night at the vintage dirt bike races and an entire squadron of WW2 fighters warming up... could hear them for miles when we got separated at a couple traffic lights.

Red rear signals should be here in a couple days. Hopefully will balance the flasher draw, right now the fronts flash bright and fast, both rears flash dim when either side is switched. Wired correctly, not enough wattage to make the flasher relay work correctly. Takes a 3amp mini bulb, the new ones in route can fit the stock bulbs...

And have to swap license plate fasteners with Lisa. She doesn't like the bomb fin ones on her bike anymore. Going to slap the 800 Intruder back together and haul it to the local race shop, even the stealerships send real work his way. Electrical gremlin that is beyond me, Intruder Alert AND the Marauder-Intruder Group combined...

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