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Title: Lead for bullets? Post by old_rider on 04/11/14 at 14:35:43 Was in wally world today and seen fishing weights, was wondering if you all knew about them, from my understanding lead is going to be a precious metal here soon. Don't know if its total lead or just partial, but they are selling 16oz. for $4.96 http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/IMG_20140411_144847042.jpg |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by oldNslow on 04/11/14 at 16:11:05 I think most fishing sinkers are pure lead. That's too soft for most cast bullets unless you are making round balls or conical bullets for muzzle loaders or cap and ball revolvers. Most lead bullets for cartridge firearms are an alloy of lead, tin and antimony similar to this: http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/HardballBulletCastingAlloy.htm?gclid=CKftgNvF2b0CFSqXOgod3D4A7Q |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by Oldfeller on 04/11/14 at 18:56:42 Cheapest most ready source of castable lead alloy is old clip on wheel weights. |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by HAPPYDAN on 04/11/14 at 20:00:11 I hope you're right about lead becoming a "precious metal" someday. I have many pounds of the stuff my (deceased) Father-in-Law salvaged from a torn-down X-ray room at a hospital he helped demolish. Back in Ohio, we were avid flintlock shooters and competed regularly, casting our own balls and Minie bullets. I gave it up years ago, when traditional black powder became classified as a "low explosive" and required an ATF license to purchase. I still load .410 shells with Jim Shockey Gold, but I buy the shot from Cabela's in 25 pound bags (a bag lasts me forever!) |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by shorty on 04/13/14 at 05:32:10 you can make bullets from fishing weights if fired low velocity.. .38 special, 9mm, should be limited to 1200fps.. .357 magnum will fill the rifling lands like solder, so will .38 super (unless you limit the powder charge to 1200fps) .380 acp is fine at factory velocities.. antimony is added to lead to make it harder, fishing lures are usually just lead) |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by HAPPYDAN on 04/13/14 at 21:11:51 Right you are, Shorty! At a local shooting club, they have on display a 9mm auto pistol that "blew up" b/c the shooter cast his own bullets using pure lead, no jacket. The soft metal filled the rifling and scrubbed off in the barrel until the slide locking mechanism couldn't handle the back pressure anymore, failed and sent a ball of fire and the slide back into the face of the shooter. He wasn't seriously injured, but a good lesson was learned. |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by shorty on 04/14/14 at 04:19:41 WOW..... :o :o |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by Pine on 04/14/14 at 08:25:43 Pretty cool that you found that. Lead sinkers around here are gettign pretty scarce, mostly its Bithmus (sp). But hey, at nearly $5 per 16... I would say theres a definate increase in price for lead right there! I paid $75 for ~ 170 pounds. So I have double my money! |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by Dave on 04/14/14 at 09:22:41 So I suppose it won't be long before people start digging up the earth mounds at the gun clubs....to "get the lead out". |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by oldNslow on 04/14/14 at 09:49:51 73484552434F545249414C53200 wrote:
The club I belong to does almost exactly that. Every few years they hire a company that brings in a machine that tills up a few inches of the ground out past all the trap and skeet fields where the shot falls. They scoop up the dirt,dump it into another machine that separates the lead from the soil. They pay the club for the lead they reclaim. I don't think they have ever tried mining the berms at the pistol and rifle ranges, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way to do that too, and make some money. |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by Pine on 04/14/14 at 11:53:43 79424F5849455E58434B46592A0 wrote:
I know that the indoor range ( now closed down) had to PAY for folks in hazmat suits to come out and clean the traps. The lead was treated as toxic waste, and disposed of accordingly. |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by HAPPYDAN on 04/14/14 at 12:40:52 Y'know, sometimes I think the health hazards from things like lead and BPA in plastic is really overblown. Granted, these things are toxic, and have been proven to be hazardous, but how much exposure are we risking and how much is too much? Washington outlawed lead wheel weights about a year ago, because some wizard submitted a "study" indicating that expelled wheel weights were poisoning salmon streams and habitat. Sorry, but I have been running along roads and highways here since 1992, and I have seen NUMEROUS aluminum cans and other trash, but barely a handful of expelled wheel weights. |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by Pine on 04/14/14 at 14:10:13 102D36212010332D2721440 wrote:
/agreed! My current unhappiness with the EPA is now the new requirment for wood burning stoves to meet EPA regs. REALLY??? Does the USA create sooooo much pollution via wood burning stoves that they must be regulated? Paint me VERY skeptical. But now I would be on board to get rid of this: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html ;D ;D ;D ;D Just in case you get concerned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax |
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Title: Re: Lead for bullets? Post by verslagen1 on 04/14/14 at 15:06:33 01383F34253E23510 wrote:
They're starting to have "no burn" days here. We certainly can see the difference in air quality during the wildfires. Maybe in the future we'll have "no drive" days. |
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