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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> Uhhh, I don't think so! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1397158372 Message started by Kris01 on 04/10/14 at 12:32:52 |
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Title: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Kris01 on 04/10/14 at 12:32:52 http://tanshanomi.com/suzuki-ls650-savages40/index.html I might be a little bit biased but I disagree with this guy on almost every topic. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/14 at 12:41:50 Quote:
That just about sums it up. Load up on salt before you read. :-? |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by oldNslow on 04/10/14 at 13:09:06 I actually think it's a pretty accurate description of the bike. Only thing I really don't agree with is his characterization of the steering as "vague". I think mine handles very well for what it is. I know we are all savage fans here, but I didn't read anything that I got upset about. By almost any objective criteria there are a lot of bikes out there that are a lot better then ours in almost any category you want to discuss. Who cares? |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by engineer on 04/10/14 at 13:39:11 I bought a Savage because, for its' weight, there isn't much made anymore that can compete with it. He didn't like my Moto Guzzi either but I bought it for the same reason, the lightest bike in its' class. So it is all a matter of priorities and weight is a big one with me. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Kris01 on 04/10/14 at 14:10:58 I agree. There are much better bikes out there but if I'm happy with the one I have then I have no complaints and no reason to "upgrade". My S40 is more than capable of delivering everything I expect from it. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by jcstokes on 04/10/14 at 14:36:18 I brought on price and the colour of the petrol tank. I can back my S40 into my garage easier than I could my GN250. Sure it's a butt riveter but I've have put 350 to 400 plus miles in a day at 64 years old. Handling, well you get what you pay for and I have no issues. On the long trip I did last year I had no trouble keeping pace with the other riders. Had they been travelling in the 75 to 80 mph range all day it might have been different. The other riders, Harley 1200's and Triumph Daytona's were all impressed with the S40's performance. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Doug B on 04/10/14 at 14:46:20 I think cost might be the most common reason for our choice ? And different types of costs One type was the clincher for me In August 2012 two identical (2011) bikes went on clearance at my local dealership for $3,999 That's when I made my move |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by old_rider on 04/10/14 at 19:08:31 Everyone likes the savage/s40 for their own reasons. If someone doesn't like a bike (any bike) its their opinion. Even a skilled professional rider can't give a "unbiased" opinion because everyone has "favorites". Depending on your personal body type, will decide what is comfortable for you, even if you like the way a bike sits, the next guy might not. I have a very boney ass and like a lot of cushion....and I am also medium height and leg/arm length also. I am about the most "average" body type so all bikes should be "comfortable" to me, but some are not. Price? Well up until recently I could afford any of them, well except the new Lotus maybe..... but yet I bought a savage... go figure. After the up coming dragon run this summer, I will truly make the savage mine, at the moment I am simply making it fit for a vacation trip. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Paladin. on 04/10/14 at 22:01:15 Quote:
When the traffic signal goes green NOTHING beats the Savage across the intersection. People can only beat us by going over the speed limits. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Serowbot on 04/10/14 at 23:09:23 Okay, it ain't a crotchrocket... nobody said it was... ...but, it's light and has torque, so it stasts off very quick... After 7 years of riding my Savage,.. I was wondering why traffic pulls away from the light so fast... And then I realized... from listening to the revs... Most of these people nowadays... are practically flooring their cars at every light,... and I have been using barely 1/4 throttle to keep up... It's just habit... I know I can go faster, but I end up caught at the next light anyway... If I gas it... I'll take almost anybody at a light, up to the next light... Total waste of time and gas,.. but it will launch fast... If an experienced crotcher, or a 60lk sports car really launches... they will creep ahead... Pfffht!... The other day.....I was politely putting away from a half dozen lights, trailing an uber-loud Hog running in the lane next to me... Just didn't want to upset him with a weenie-size contest... ... but then, with a load of traffic behind, I needed to get his lane to turn at the next light, so I accelerated... His bike roared to keep up but didn't... once we were ahead of the crowd, I let off and pulled in behind him to turn... WTF... I got no ego invested in my Savage... My good deed for the day... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by WD on 04/11/14 at 00:42:25 The Savage is a cute little toy motorcycle. It works, it's inexpensive w/o being overly "cheap" except the cut rate chrome and ultralight wiring, almost no market/demand for them stateside so insurance is low... I've got 2 right now. I could easily have gone bigger (would have if VN800A prices ever come back to the real world), but I got what I need. That's all I ask of a bike, do what I need it to, when I need it to, and the rest is just fluff. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by stinger on 04/11/14 at 02:37:11 I mean how darn fast to you have to go? I agree for interstate travel it is a bit light but here in Oregon the freeway speeds are 65 and at the most 70. Our bikes handle both speeds pretty well. I knew when I bought it that I could go bigger, but my plans were to mostly cruise secondary roads. As far as a toy bike goes, I would not go as far to say that. My friends own big BMW's and Kawasaki's and I stay right there with them on the freeways and they all think my bike is a great motorcycle. Get lots of "Nice Bike" from strangers and most think it is a Sportster anyway. I have owned lots of bikes and this one is my favorite of all. 54,000 miles and not one major repair says alot about the quality of the 650. Besides, I paid less than $4,000 back in 03 and it has brought me tons of great riding experiences. I could care less what anyone thinks. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by LANCER on 04/11/14 at 03:41:30 Did the guy not notice that this bike IS the "low" cost leader in the cruiser line up for Suzuki ? By definition that means that everything on this bike is going to be "low cost". Surprise Surprise. That translates into a few handicaps right out of the gate, BUT ... they can be FIXED. A little massage here, a little massage there, and it emerges as a totally different machine. Muffler; jets; shocks; forks; seat; belt/chain;brake; cam; carb; piston; ports; what ever your comfort level, things can be done that the factory FAILED to do. We are not talking about building a racing machine, like many of the bikes coming off the factory assembly line; built and tuned to a fine edge that were only found on the race track not to many years ago. The "improvements" to this bike enhance braking, handling, and efficient running, along with comfort, but nothing radical, we have sought for efficiency. If only Suzuki could see it that way, but I don't think they want it that way, I don't think they want it to be a successful selling bike because it would take away from the more expensive v-twin cruisers. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Dave on 04/11/14 at 03:46:56 I wanted air cooled, carb, single cylinder, ease of maintenance....the belt drive turned out to be a bonus. I wanted a bike that I could work on and ride for a long time.....until I could not ride anymore. I did not want to spend a lot of money. The Savage met that criteria and got me hooked. The Cafe' conversion may have taken some of the "senior years" riding away from me on this bike - but I sure am enjoying it while I can still lean over to grab the clip ons! Yea......If I was young and had a large number of free bikes to road test and write stories about......I probably would not be too impressed with the Savage. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by walterpump on 04/11/14 at 05:04:05 At 72 years young I spent $2000 for my 2003 last year and I believe it is hard to find a better all around bike today. Light, single cylinder, carb, belt drive, good on fuel, not too hard to work on, great to mod - I am lovin this bike and I have had a few over the years. This year I will be cruzin down the byways with a DynaGlide Muffler, Carb Rejetted, Vapor Digital Dash, new Metzler 880's, Sportster Shocks and Handlebars, fresh oil & filter, new plug, and away I go - Vrooooom. ITS NEVER TOO LATE TO HAVE A HAPPY CHILDHOOD - Ha, Ha. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by arteacher on 04/11/14 at 07:18:25 I bought mine in order to relive the experience of my first bike, a '37 Royal Enfield 500 single. You would have to read all his quickie reviews to find out what he considers to be a great bike, then compare the s40 to that to get some idea of where he is coming from. I don't disagree with a lot of what he says, I just value some of the things he criticizes more than he does. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by WD on 04/11/14 at 07:35:03 6C6B7671787A6D1F0 wrote:
I'm 6'2", over 200 pounds by a decent margin, and cut my riding teeth on a Knucklehead... To me, a Savage will always be a toy. Even my highly modified 98 is a toy. My 03 is a commuter bike, that can't hit 70 miles per hour or 50 miles per gallon (probably the windshield). If I wanted a cross country go to rallies and such medium sized motorcycle, I'd have gotten a C50 or VN800A, or stepped up to a VN1500 (could have got a local project one for $600) if I wanted/needed a full sized. The Savage has the exact same wheelbase as the 1963 Honda CL72 (248cc dual sport) I gave away as a parts roach last year. And roughly the same as the 1957 rigid framed, springer equipped 1200cc/74 cubic inch Panhead I left in storage at a friend's place in western WA. The LS engine is huge compared to the CL, and a mouse fart compared to the Harley. My 2003 that I got from Pine is my 105th or 106th street motorcycle since 1987... I've owned the spectrum from 1915 to 2005 model years. I usually take in clunkers, clean them up and get rid of them. Bought this one to ride until it falls apart. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/14 at 08:11:18 The Savage doesn't back up its dramatic appearance with anything more than milquetoast performance. It doesnt scream, but it gets out of the way real good if I screw up & pull out when I shoulda waited.. Its not for the 1/4 mile, but it will be across an intersection in a flash. He really shoulda gone for a ride with a few of the guys from here,,then he mite not have made such a fool of himself, having an opinion that goes against reality.. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Kris01 on 04/11/14 at 09:33:58 786B2F0 wrote:
I just checked mine and got a hair over 59 mpg but I'm still jetted pretty lean (stock jets). |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by Nailz on 04/13/14 at 13:29:09 The savage is a low cost motorcycle. It does what it was intended to do. It is easy to ride, is very forgiving, gets good MPG, is a perfect 1st bike, and has a low maintenance schedule and cost. With a few low cost upgrades (jet kit, petcock, Dyna muffler), it is quite a competent bike. My wife's runs great, and we ride together all the time. She loves it and so do I. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by S-P on 04/13/14 at 14:06:39 71676A72637476736B76060 wrote:
Yup... 62 here and lovin' my 2007 with less than $100.00 in mods (so far...) I've paid a helluva lot more for less fun. ;) |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by jcstokes on 04/13/14 at 15:00:05 I was speaking to someone on the weekend, who said his brother had had over 100000 miles on a Savage and only re ringed it. If you wonder about this in NZ the Savage in question had an American speedo and was calibrated in miles not kilometres. |
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Title: Re: Uhhh, I don't think so! Post by ToesNose on 04/13/14 at 19:09:40 " Vrooooom. ITS NEVER TOO LATE TO HAVE A HAPPY CHILDHOOD - Ha, Ha." Truth be told Walter, truth be told ;) |
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