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Message started by Thomas Högberg on 04/08/14 at 01:00:14

Title: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/08/14 at 01:00:14

Hi
new here, just bought an LS 650-98
original and stock specs as far as I know..
runs good at idle and in low and mid range but has no strenght and feel very sluggish on acceleration, doesn´t rev up as it should.

the bike has run 32000 km and I live in Sweden.
any suggestions where I should start?
/Thomas

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by swedishbiker on 04/08/14 at 03:28:27

Bränsletillförseln och förgasaren.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/14 at 03:44:57

If it hasnt had a cam chain, its time.
If youre not sure the gas is fresh, dump the gas & put fresh in it,
Check the air cleaner, for sure.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by verslagen1 on 04/08/14 at 07:28:11

yep, check the cam chain and clean the carb.

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Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/08/14 at 08:27:10

Thanks for your response :)
I will disassembly the carb and clean it, not sure if it has all the corrrect pieces cause today the idle mix screw turned it self loose and vanished...

the, now missing piece, did not look as on the pictures I´ve seen here
mine was so long that it was flush with the housing of the carb, no room for a plug at all..

Can of course be that there is variants that I don´t know about ;)

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/14 at 08:31:39

Sounds like the jetting is wrong, so they adjusted it out, making it loose, it went away. Is the exhaust stock? What your elevation above sea level?
Look at the jets in the carb & make note of them, tell us.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/08/14 at 10:12:38

That is what I thought too, but tried screwing it in all the way   it was still flush with the housing....

well, now it is gone anyway :)

Yes, stock exhaust and airfilter.

89 meters above sea level, I will check the jets and tell you.
Thanks

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/14 at 10:34:51

Any of you tuners have an idea why anyone would pop the cover off the idle air screw with a stock exhaust? Or did they have it capped off back then?

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by oldNslow on 04/08/14 at 10:42:02


Quote:
the, now missing piece, did not look as on the pictures I´ve seen here
mine was so long that it was flush with the housing of the carb, no room for a plug at all..

Can of course be that there is variants that I don´t know about


Some Euro- spec carbs had different mixture screws I think. I remember a discussion about that on here a while back.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/11/14 at 11:28:17

Hi
checked the carb now, this is what I found:

main jet:  125 or 135, hard to read ;)
pilot jet: 47,5
Jet needle 5C16 ...
and the spacer present on the needle.
Missing the pilot screw, lost it due to vibrations....

What would you put in if I have the following changes?

K&N High flow air filter
Dyna muffler

and who can sell me what I need?  ;)
would any pilot screw do, thinking about what oldNslow wrote?

/Thomas


Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Dave on 04/11/14 at 12:05:54

Well there's your problem....you got tiny little jets!

Here is some good info.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1098869040

I am not sure where you would get jets where you live....maybe find someone that will do international shipping.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by verslagen1 on 04/11/14 at 13:05:00


112A2730212D36302B232E31420 wrote:
Well there's your problem....you got tiny little jets!


OH! SNAP!   :o

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Oldfeller on 04/12/14 at 04:38:41


From the size of those jets, I'd ask the question.

Was your bike sold as a low hp beginner's model in a graduated liscense country?

If so, then look for a restrictor washer between the carburetor and the engine.   You need to remove this washer and rejet the bike to develop full stock HP.

Then read the list for all the mods that take it beyond stock HP.

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/13/14 at 06:03:34


193A3230333A3A3324560 wrote:
From the size of those jets, I'd ask the question.

Was your bike sold as a low hp beginner's model in a graduated liscense country?

If so, then look for a restrictor washer between the carburetor and the engine.   You need to remove this washer and rejet the bike to develop full stock HP.

Then read the list for all the mods that take it beyond stock HP.


I have no idea, seems to been sold in Germany as new, later imported to Sweden.

I will check for a washer.

Thanks
/Thomas

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/13/14 at 12:29:45

Found no restrictor washer :)

Still in persuit of an idle mix screw and a jetset though, wrote in Lancers thread called Jetsets in the marketplace but have not had any response yet...

time goes slow when you wait ;)

/Thomas

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Bluesman on 04/13/14 at 23:07:13

Check with Bröderna Hörberg, motorcycle scrappers near Helsingborg. They might have a complete carb, or at least the proper parts for your bike (jets/mixture screw). And please, post a close-up pic of the carb´s righthand side here, I´d love to take a look at where that mixture screw used to live.  

A  list of scrappers and dealers is found here:
http://www.mc-skrot.com/Skane-lan/Loddekopinge/Broderna-Horberg-AB

My best bet would be Fleninge MC-skrot, though. Helsingborg

Edit: I think the Suzuki DR650 offroaders have the same exact engine, maybe they have the same carb too. Just a tip if there´s no LS650 carb at hand..

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/14/14 at 00:12:20

Thanks :)
A picture will come up later
/Thomas

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by swedishbiker on 04/14/14 at 00:55:55

http://www.braigasen.com/mikuni_jet_order.htm

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Thomas Högberg on 04/14/14 at 06:01:34


4C485A5B564C575D56545A4D3F0 wrote:
http://www.braigasen.com/mikuni_jet_order.htm



Thanks, I will try there  :)

Title: Re: My bike does´nt run right on acceleration...
Post by Henrik on 04/14/14 at 14:10:57


3236242528322923282A2433410 wrote:
http://www.braigasen.com/mikuni_jet_order.htm


Thanks +1
I will call that guy tomorow! :)

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