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Message started by uigiroux on 04/06/14 at 15:47:09

Title: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)?
Post by uigiroux on 04/06/14 at 15:47:09

I want to redo my front and rear spokes from the crap galvanized steel to either stainless or chrome.   I've found many different sets but don't know the exact dimensions besides the front is 19 inch and 36 spokes and rear is 15 inch with  36 also.   Please If you could post the other dimensions I need and especially if you have any links to them (best deal possible for a budget)  that would be great!   Thanks guys.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by Dave on 04/06/14 at 18:22:12

Buchanan's Rim and Spoke has the information they need to make you spokes, and they have stainless or chrome.  Their spokes run about $ 100 a wheel.

I am not sure there are any other sources....the Savage is a low production bike and does not have an excess of aftermarket companies making things.....like spoke sets....for the Savage.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by WD on 04/06/14 at 23:03:35

If you are going to respoke the wheels, order a 16" rear hoop and conversion spokes. Trust me, the extra cash up front will be the best money you EVER spend on your Savage. Opens up your tire choices from a dozen (maybe) to hundreds...

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by wolfsgrin on 04/06/14 at 23:23:23

yeah ordering my rear rim and spokes from Buchanan next week. Well, actually sending my rear hub off to them to have lace and trued. The front is getting a 21" rim but that comes with the springer kit.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 11:24:44

Yeah I saw that Buchanan's makes them but I can't spend $100 about wheel,  the reason I posted this is because I Googled 19 inch stainless steel spokes and found kits for as low as $50.  I just need to know the gauge of our spokes and the info about the wheel and hub so I can try and find a cheaper pair.   If I was going to spend $100 (EACH) just to get spokes and that doesn't even cover lacing them up,  then I'd rather just buy compatible used rimmed wheels and if just get them powder coated or something...

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by Dave on 04/07/14 at 12:02:31


25393739223F2528500 wrote:
 I just need to know the gauge of our spokes and the info about the wheel and hub so I can try and find a cheaper pair.  


The Savage front hub is a bit weird....the spokes are all inners - but with different bend angles. One spoke has to cross over top of another spoke - so the bends have to have different lengths. The front wheel spokes may only be avaible as a custom set from Buchanans....I doubt that anybody else makes them in advance.

The rear spokes are probably just like Suzuki GT380 or GT550 or some of the GS bikes if you are switching to an 18" rim.....but not for a 15" rim.  Once again.....I doubt that anybody but Buchanans will have something that works.

I am not trying to talk you out of getting them elsewhere cheaper....I just don't know where that would be.  You mill most likely just have to take out the spokes, measure them, and then provide the information to someone who can make you the spokes you need.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 12:11:38


764D4057464A51574C444956250 wrote:
[quote author=25393739223F2528500 link=1396824429/0#4 date=1396895084]  I just need to know the gauge of our spokes and the info about the wheel and hub so I can try and find a cheaper pair.  


The Savage front hub is a bit weird....the spokes are all inners - but with different bend angles. One spoke has to cross over top of another spoke - so the bends have to have different lengths. The front wheel spokes may only be avaible as a custom set from Buchanans....I doubt that anybody else makes them in advance.

The rear spokes are probably just like Suzuki GT380 or GT550 or some of the GS bikes if you are switching to an 18" rim.....but not for a 15" rim.  Once again.....I doubt that anybody but Buchanans will have something that works.

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So with that being the case,  what rimmed tires could I use.   I'm pretty sure I've sv a few different people using the early 80's GS550 wheels.   Ironically I actually put a down payment to reserve an 81 GS550 but found my Savage (5 years old with 83 miles on it for a steal).   I really don't want to spend so much just for spokes if I can fit something like the GS550 wheels and probably do so for cheaper and less hassle...

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by Dave on 04/07/14 at 12:40:56

I am not sure anything is a "bolt on" for the cast wheels.  The disc brakes and pulley mount become issues that need to be solved.  Verslagen and a few others have done it.....not sure you are going to do it for less than spoking a couple of wheels.

Here is one thread on the subject.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366486692


Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/14 at 12:50:25

GS series wheels can be had, but finding a good set is another thing.
Corrosion probably being the biggest issue, damage another.

Spoked sets are rare until you start going with older wheels.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by kochic on 04/07/14 at 14:15:47

I ordered two set of custom spokes from buchanan last year.
1.91 per spoke and 1.22 per nipple, all in stainless.
nice workmanship, you just need to tell what hub and rim you have and they will send you spokes that fit.
Marc

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 14:17:16


465542435C5157555E01300 wrote:
GS series wheels can be had, but finding a good set is another thing.
Corrosion probably being the biggest issue, damage another.

Spoked sets are rare until you start going with older wheels.



Which specifically would work that you know of,  and are they a direct bolt on fit or does some trimming of the hub or something like that need to be done?

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/14 at 14:50:47


7B6769677C617B760E0 wrote:
Which specifically would work that you know of,  and are they a direct bolt on fit or does some trimming of the hub or something like that need to be done?


No specifics unless you want cast wheels... so be specific in your request.
In other words, I don't know if you're talking cast or spoked.

If spoked, IDK.  Best to visit your local scrap heap and find something you could live with.

If cast, I have to look up what I bought.  But it will be an early 80's GS550 w/a modified GS450 disk.  Rear drum and pulley direct swap (for me). the year does make a difference as others b!tched continuously as nothing fit right.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 15:08:09


5C4F5859464B4D4F441B2A0 wrote:
[quote author=7B6769677C617B760E0 link=1396824429/0#10 date=1396905436]Which specifically would work that you know of,  and are they a direct bolt on fit or does some trimming of the hub or something like that need to be done?


No specifics unless you want cast wheels... so be specific in your request.
In other words, I don't know if you're talking cast or spoked.

If spoked, IDK.  Best to visit your local scrap heap and find something you could live with.

If cast, I have to look up what I bought.  But it will be an early 80's GS550 w/a modified GS450 disk.  Rear drum and pulley direct swap (for me). the year does make a difference as others b!tched continuously as nothing fit right.[/quote]

I want to do the cast wheels from the Gs550.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/14 at 15:22:45


203C323C273A202D550 wrote:
I want to do the cast wheels from the Gs550.


http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1205292181

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 16:21:37

So for the front I need a (79-82) GS550 wheel but swap the rotor with one from a GS450,  then mod my wheel spacers and a few other things accordingly.   One thing I'm confused on for the front is that on eBay all the 550 wheels I've seen are only 1.85 inches wide,  not the 2+ (I don't remember exactly what the other thread posted for the front,  so is there something I'm missing here?

For the rear wheel I need a 79-82 GS550 wheel and then I'm confused,  I've read that both the sprocket hub and brake side hub are a direct fit,  while others are saying conflicting things.   Could I get some clarification?

One thing that sends apparent is it has to be a 79-82 year part as 83-present they changed things up.

So am I on the right track?   What am I getting right and what am I missing?

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/14 at 19:49:08

The rear wheel was a '80 gs550.  I didn't have any issues with it at all.
stock spacers, brake hub and pulley fit like they were made for it.

On the front, I have a gs650 wheel with the gs450 disc cut down to 10.25"
those are 5mm thick like the savage and have a 6 hole pattern for mounting.  space the disc off the hub by .25" and with new pads I had to space the caliper out by 1 washer (in between caliper and fork).

a 90/90-19 is probably the correct tire for the front, but 100/90 fits just fine.
the rear likes a 130/90-16.  Any bigger and you'll have issues with clearance and the swingarm.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 20:10:23


342730312E2325272C73420 wrote:
The rear wheel was a '80 gs550.  I didn't have any issues with it at all.
stock spacers, brake hub and pulley fit like they were made for it.

On the front, I have a gs650 wheel with the gs450 disc cut down to 10.25"
those are 5mm thick like the savage and have a 6 hole pattern for mounting.  space the disc off the hub by .25" and with new pads I had to space the caliper out by 1 washer (in between caliper and fork).

a 90/90-19 is probably the correct tire for the front, but 100/90 fits just fine.
the rear likes a 130/90-16.  Any bigger and you'll have issues with clearance and the swingarm.


Sorry, what new pads are you referring too?

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/14 at 20:13:28


3B2729273C213B364E0 wrote:
Sorry, what new pads are you referring too?


brake pads.

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by uigiroux on 04/07/14 at 21:39:40

So you have to get brake pads for the GS450 or the stocks fit?

Title: Re: Aftermarket spokes (stainless steel or chrome)
Post by WD on 04/08/14 at 00:43:05

Stock caliper and brake pads. Space them off the fork leg to fit, use solid washers.

You can fit any wheel you want with enough "tinkering"...

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Savage/drum4_zps72b7c657.jpg

Late 60s to early mid 70s rim, spokes and drum, from a Suzuki T500 Titan 2 stroke parallel twin. Brake plate is a dual pull 60s Honda CB/CL450 unit. Stock 1998 Savage axle, stacks of washers as wheel spacers.  That bike is going the rest of the way full on period custom from the 50s, but Savage based.

The 2003 I picked up today is staying stockish (for now)...  ;)

Experiment, see what you can make work on your bike. If it gets to feel like work, you're doing something wrong.

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