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Message started by boognish on 03/21/14 at 18:12:09

Title: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by boognish on 03/21/14 at 18:12:09

I got my 2004 savage in 2012 with 400 miles on it, it sat outside and had some water damage. I got it for just about free and it ran just fine for about 1000 miles, then I decided to take a long trip. Kentucky to Minnesota, mostly interstate... It was a nightmare, needless to say I made it but the savage was hemorrhaging oil the entire way while sustaining freeway speeds. The jug had an indentation on the inside and my mechanic said as opposed to replacing it I could send it to this performance atv shop his buddy ran and get it resleeved with nickel. I went that route.
I was basically ignorant at that point and the explanation that I got was that it was "better" which made me happy because it was cheaper than the new jug.
What does my fancy sleeve do? Anything?
It does run absolutely perfectly after that.

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by Yoshi on 03/21/14 at 18:25:03

lol, no clue

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by engineer on 03/21/14 at 18:30:31

Was a sleeve put in it or was it plated with Nikasil? Nikasil is short for Nickel Silicon Carbide which is used by several motorcycle manufacturers and is generally a good durable lining.

Quote:

What does my fancy sleeve do? Anything?
It does run absolutely perfectly after that.

Since it now runs well I would say that it fixed your problem by providing a hard smooth cylinder bore of the correct dimension.

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by boognish on 03/21/14 at 18:40:23

I am moving up north April 1st so I will ask what metal he used exactly when I go back in there.
He was most likely just givin me smoke when he said it was "better" or being considerate enough to lead me in the cheaper direction.

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by shorty on 03/22/14 at 07:24:58

it's common to "re-sleeve" many piston powered engines.. many highway diesels get re-sleeved at major overhaul..

you did good

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by seedubs1 on 03/22/14 at 11:58:51

5E4C435E4243484A2D0 wrote:

it's common to "re-sleeve" many piston powered engines.. many highway diesels get re-sleeved at major overhaul..

you did good

Yup. Whenever we rebuild our diesels, new sleeves get put in.

Much cheaper to replace a scored piston bore with a new sleeve than to replace a block.

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by Kris01 on 03/22/14 at 18:18:43

I'm just curious... When they resleeve the engine, do they bore it out the thickness of the sleeve so the piston size remains the same? In other words, if the sleeve is 1/2 mm thick, do they bore the engine 1 mm so that the same size piston can be used?

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by S-P on 03/22/14 at 20:05:29

5D50505851564C573F0 wrote:

as opposed to replacing it I could send it to this performance atv shop his buddy ran and get it resleeved with nickel. I went that route.
I was basically ignorant at that point and the explanation that I got was that it was "better" which made me happy because it was cheaper than the new jug.

How much was the re-sleeve job if you don't mind me asking.

Title: Re: Jug resleeved with Nickel
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/23/14 at 08:38:38

645D465C1F1E2F0 wrote:

Yea, the piston size stays the same. They bore the block, OR, some blocks come sleeved from the Fak Toe Ree,, Then all they hafta do is get the old sleeve out & slap a fresh one in. IIRC, Detroits are that way,
The block has to be very close size to the sleeve, or there will be hot spots. The sleeve cant just slide in, it needs to be Tight,, for physical support and heat transfer.