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Title: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/03/14 at 16:02:26 I haven't been able to due much lately because of lower back problems. I'm feeling better, but it isn't fun trying to get my leg over the saddle and those bumps don't feel so swell. :( Just curious to see if any has any thoughts? Maybe a cinder block on each of the bike and progressive rear shocks? |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by arteacher on 03/03/14 at 16:38:09 Pain killers. ;) |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Blinky-FSO on 03/03/14 at 17:10:26 Progressive shocks will help some. I noticed a slight improvement when I added mine. I also tried to hire a small Japanese woman to ride on the back so she would be available to walk on my back when it knotted up. For some reason, the wife said no. I guess she just does not care if the old back hurts. Go figure. Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by verslagen1 on 03/03/14 at 18:40:24 progressives, I got 418's with 2" of travel, you might look to see if there's one with more. and if that didn't fix it, consider an air cushioned seat offa hardly. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/03/14 at 20:43:13 42514647585553515A05340 wrote:
Thanks Versy, did you have to modify anything else as well to make the real long shocks work. Off the top of my head I remember reading a thread where someone had to modify their chain guard because it was to thick at the bottom. If I remember correctly, once they get to 2.5 - 3 inches of travel that's when it becomes an issue. I don't think I'm going to have much luck finding a petite Japanese woman to lend a hand (pun intended). :-? |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by verslagen1 on 03/03/14 at 21:09:47 I went with 11" shocks, no problems there. You might go with 11.5 or 12" for 2.5 or 3" of travel. 90 to 130 lbs/inch is a little light for a heavy weight. 115 to 155 is better for me. I looked it up, actually got 440-4022 |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/03/14 at 21:23:36 Thanks, I suppose I'll read through a few threads before I open the wallet. Incidentally, I sent you a note regarding one on your tensioners as well. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Serowbot on 03/03/14 at 21:38:32 5F484E424D5D2F0 wrote:
That's me PG... I have 12.25" Intruder shocks... (way cheaper than Progressives... $20 or 30 on ebay. Mine were free. You might find an Intruder owner that will swap)... Easy mod on the guard, or chuck it... The extra suspension is worth it... Read here... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298207753/7#7 PS... bad back... Sunday, I woke up, yawned and stretched, and tore a muscle in my back... ...while lying in bed... ;D... My back has a mind of it's own... I can spend 3 days digging out a tree stump,... or throw it out reaching in the fridge for a beer... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by verslagen1 on 03/03/14 at 21:49:18 647375797666140 wrote:
back at cha (pun intended) |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/03/14 at 21:55:26 Thanks Sero. I've always had minor problems but, that was the first time I couldn't get up out of bed. I went and got a real good back brace and made some walking poles. 4 ft long x 1.25 oak dial rods with rubber caps on each end. They called them yoda sticks at work. ;D |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by ToesNose on 03/04/14 at 04:31:01 Yea lower back problems here too, the progressive shocks are definitely a smoother ride with better handling to boot. Alieve and sports rub are often friends of mine, along with a massage when I have some spare bucks burning a whole in my pocket ;) So Blinky what is the going rate to rent a small Japanese woman as a riding companion these days? :D |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Dave on 03/04/14 at 05:06:18 5A616B7D40617D6B0E0 wrote:
Ooooh....I yen for a small Japanese woman to ride on my back! ;D |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by arteacher on 03/04/14 at 05:27:51 I once had a GF who was 4' tall and weighed next to nothing. I almost married her because she could walk on my back without hurting it. :) |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 03/04/14 at 06:19:37 I had low back pain a lot in my 40s and 50s, and every now and then, it will still hurt. My remedy, and it may sound stupid but it works for my, is to hang from a chinning bar for about 20 - 30 seconds, a couple of times per day. I put a broom stick between two of the joists in my garage, and then I just climb up on a short step stool, grab the broom stick and let my lower body hang. 20 seconds is a long time to hang there - your hands may not last that long. 30 seconds seems like forever. But what this does is to stretch your spine back out, and relieve compression of the vertebrae. It can't hurt you - try it and see if it helps. It sure works for me. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by verslagen1 on 03/04/14 at 07:25:02 455254585747350 wrote:
I know that feeling. Try putting your knee in the seat 1st, then pivot and swing the lower leg over the seat. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Serowbot on 03/04/14 at 08:18:07 7E717D777C717A767166737166140 wrote:
Thanks for the reminder, Jerry,... I've been meaning to do that for several years, and never got around to it... I had a bar up at my other house.. ...(I used to be able to do 40 chin-ups... probably can't do 5 anymore)...(and yer' back does feel better from hanging)... 6 years of procrastination... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/04/14 at 09:04:19 Gents, thanks for the suggestions, they should all be very helpful. After learning a bit more, anything you can do to keep the spine straight with your hips aligned correctly, reduce tension / stress whenever possible (at all costs), as well as gentle stretching will be extremely beneficial. I got get it feeling real good soon. I got jets from Lancer on the way and I'm working on getting a tensioner from Versy. ;) |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/07/14 at 19:11:11 Gents: I’m looking for a bit of insight to a rear shock upgrade. Please point me in the right direction. I weigh 180 lbs and would like to be able to ride with an extra 10 lbs on the back seat. I’m thinking of putting on 12.5” or possibly 12”. Here are a couple questions: 1) Can someone explain how the lbs/inch or how that realistically applies to someone of my stature? 2) Other than the slight issue with the chain guard is there any other issues? Possibly handling concerns or maybe the petcock in won’t work as well in reserve? 3) Regarding the VS800 shocks, I remember you don’t want to get those after a the bike became an s50. Is that correct? 4) Any other thoughts based on your experiences? I’m looking for some good deals on e-bay for either VS800 or possibly progressives. As always, thanks for your help. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by verslagen1 on 03/07/14 at 19:58:41 Sounds like the vs800 are the cheap way to go. at least you'd find out the mechanicals of it. and if you wanted better. the 440's I picked up for 170 shipped were a steal. and were a lot better than the 412's. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/08/14 at 16:43:19 3F2C3B3A25282E2C2778490 wrote:
I know that feeling. Try putting your knee in the seat 1st, then pivot and swing the lower leg over the seat.[/quote] It took me a couple of tries to get it right. But, is does help a whole lot! Thanks for sending one of your tensioners. I look forward to putting it on. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by WD on 03/08/14 at 22:45:21 You learn to live with it. I have a life time prescription for muscle relaxants and narcotics. Missing chunks of bone and disc at 2 levels in my lumbar spine (should have had a fusion years ago). I have days that I can't get in and out of the Subaru or the Ranger w/o a cane. Legs tend to go to sleep after an hour or so in the Subie... Savage has Intruder 800 shocks. No issues other than the handling, while better than stock, and the ride, while better than stock, suck. Bad back be dam*ed, my bike is getting a rigid conversion and a sprung seat. Have ridden rigids several times post op, it doesn't hurt any worse than a suspension bike does. And the handling is soooo much better... It's funny, I can go 2 miles in a Kenworth T800/W900, a few hundred in a Peterbilt 377/378/379, or all day on a motorcycle. The bike seems to knock everything into proper position. |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Boofer on 03/09/14 at 23:05:45 pgambr, you need fixing--not the bike. Get a doctor to check you out and recommend some in-home therapy. Most docs have a set of exercises depending on the site and degree of pain. Keeping your muscles strong is the best way to hold your vertabrae in place. If it is more serious, you need to know that, also. Good luck. Boofer |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by Pine on 03/10/14 at 06:51:32 I did the 412's last year. The ride is improved, but still very harsh compared to a heavy bike. It also raised up the seat a tad, so you gotta toss that leg up even further. My lower back ( knock wood) is good, but I still drop the $60 for a good massage every now and again. Funny how even though my lower back never really bothers me, just how dern good it feels when they work just above the butt. Of course the shoulders are my weak point. they knot up like rocks. I often think the main culprit is loss of muscle tone. Doing yoga, or some such seems to help (if I keep doing it). |
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Title: Re: Back Problems Post by pgambr on 03/10/14 at 15:04:53 Boofer: You are correct. Actually, everyday it gets a little better and I am changing how I do a lot of things. This will be an ongoing challenge, but it is looking brighter. Pine: What length did you go with and do you remember if you went with the regular or the heavier springs? Gents, thanks for your concerns and input. ;) |
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