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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> History revised /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1391953301 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 02/09/14 at 05:41:41 |
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Title: History revised Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/09/14 at 05:41:41 Is this true? I dunno,, but, Ive been lied to a few times by the goobs, so, is THIS guy lying or is the history I was taught a lie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np2OTp8bWus |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by pgambr on 02/09/14 at 17:21:07 I would describe his opinion as: "if you believe it, then it is real." |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by WebsterMark on 02/10/14 at 11:16:38 No JOG; this is not true. Most of it anyway, at least what I sat through. Powerful individuals or organizations use their power in an attempt to get more power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Money is not necessarily the motivator, power is. Sometimes powerful people or groups work together for a short period of time because they believe working together is the best means to achieving their individual goals. They are prepared to shed their partner when this is achieved or sometimes one group takes over another group and incorporates it. What you see as evidence of a vast interconnected conspiracy is in reality a large number of individuals acting selfishly to advance themselves often using the same techniques and methods. When their ideologies are closely matched, it looks all the more like a conspiracy. For example; when you point to the fact the Bush family knew the Hinckley family as it relates to the Regan assassination attempt, you see an un-natural connection so therefore a conspiracy must exist. However, both were in the oil business in Texas; how could they NOT know each other. Same as the first Persian Gulf War; Kuwait was a major oil country, how could Bush NOT have contacts there. Oil was their business; of course they had met before. Food processing is my business. There are about 36 major poultry processors in the US; many centered around Arkansas. You don’t think all 36 CEO’s know each other? Of course they do. Many below to the same industry groups, golf clubs, trade associations, churches etc….. That’s not evidence of collusion or conspiracy. That's a logical outcome of all pursuing similar goals. Your flaw in all these conspiracy theories is taking individual items, relationships, or events etc… and forcing them together. All of us on this site have an interest in motorcycles which means a good number have other motorcycles, which means a good number probably below to other forums etc… Having a motorcycle probably means you are more mechanically inclined than the average individual. Owning a particular type of motorcycle means you may think about certain things along the same line as others owing the same type as you. It wouldn’t be hard to use all those things and ‘create’ a conspiracy after a large event occurred and link individuals together who may or may not know each other, using nothing but those links, innuendo and circumstantial evidence. There are genuine conspiracies going on for sure. When one powerful group or individual orchestrates the events of others in an attempt to hide its involvement in the originating event, there’s your conspiracy. The IRS scandal comes to mind. The Benghazi killings would be another one. |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by Serowbot on 02/10/14 at 14:11:54 Quote:
Web,...and you were doing so well up then... :-?... |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by pgambr on 02/10/14 at 15:11:12 What? You guys didn't buy the line about a youtube video released 6 months before? ;D |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by WebsterMark on 02/10/14 at 17:49:36 I could say the same for you Sew, you were doing so well...... Seriously, those two events fit the definition of conspiracy. Obama and Clinton f'd up and now they're working hard to get out of this mess. I'm sure it's hard for you to admit, but it is what it is. |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by mpescatori on 02/11/14 at 04:04:22 Quote:
+1 There is an ancient Sicilian proverb which claims, literally, that "Power is better than sex" Sicilians ? Never mind mafia, I am talking "ancient Greeks, ancient Carthaginians, ancient Romans, ancient Arabs". They should know ;) |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by Paraquat on 02/11/14 at 06:12:59 How's that go? In Italian? --Steve |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by Dane Allen on 02/18/14 at 10:55:17 283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
The scandal isn't necessarily the original act, it's the cover up afterwards. Take Benghazi and the foolishness about some video no one saw as the cause in order to protect Obama's re-election. Reagan wouldn't have needed any cover up, he was a real leader. Same with the IRS where all the liberals were claiming liberals were also targetted (which never happened) and all the 5th pleading going on. Lies about rogue low level field agents and such. Even with the MSM in Obama's pocket the truth will eventually get out. |
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Title: Re: History revised Post by mpescatori on 02/20/14 at 02:11:26 7342514252564257230 wrote:
I had it all written down and all that, but decided against it. The saying has a 1st level meaning, a 2nd level meaning, and even a 3rd level meaning, if you will, as often happens with age-old sayings and idiomatic expressions of regional origin. Social, historic, ethnic... you could say it to a fellow anglosaxon and get his smile of approval, but an italian-speaking individual standing next to you could take offense. A bit like inviting a Catholic to Guy Fawkes Night ::) |
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