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Message started by bejot on 01/16/14 at 02:06:30

Title: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by bejot on 01/16/14 at 02:06:30

This year I decided to finally get rid of the airbox and install an cone air filter. Just when I was removing the whole box I noticed there's a rubber hose going from the engine to the filter box - how do you change that part? Do I need to install a separate air filter ON that hose or is there some trick to installing some small cone on the engine itself?
Couldn't find any info on the forum, sorry if it was covered - the search gives me nothing solid :)

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by Dave on 01/16/14 at 04:57:27

The RYCA conversion does not use the airbox, and they use the small filter.  You can go to their website and buy one of theirs, and look at the customers bike photos to see where people have mounted it.
http://shop.rycamotors.com/breather_filter.html

You can also look through the bike builds posted on this forum.  Most of the Cafe Racers and Bobbers have eliminated the air box and you can see that they have used.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1383565946

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by S-P on 01/16/14 at 13:09:27


7A7D72776C180 wrote:
This year I decided to finally get rid of the airbox and install an cone air filter. Just when I was removing the whole box I noticed there's a rubber hose going from the engine to the filter box - how do you change that part? Do I need to install a separate air filter ON that hose or is there some trick to installing some small cone on the engine itself?
Couldn't find any info on the forum, sorry if it was covered - the search gives me nothing solid :)


This is what I did. You can't see it but the hose has a zip tie holding it in place through the old bolt hole.

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by verslagen1 on 01/16/14 at 13:42:57

1 fellow connected it to the back of the cone filter using an auto pvc valve.

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by SSG on 01/16/14 at 13:51:34

I did mine just like S-P but with a different filter I got off amazon. There are many threads about it, you just need to make sure to change the "this post was made in the last" section under the search screen. This will bring up many results.

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by bejot on 01/24/14 at 02:22:01

Got it, thanks, guys - zip is gonna by my savior, it would seem :)

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by buddynagel on 01/24/14 at 12:34:03

please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that hose actually a pcv(positive crankcase ventilation) hose? essentially to relieve pressure from the crankcase and recirculating it back into the intake. If so, putting a small filter on it would be pointless because its releasing air rather than sucking air in.

EDIT: actually now that I think about it, it would be both puling air in and releasing it as the piston moves up and down. Piston up = air in. Piston down = push air out. unless the hose is a totally different system

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by Michael L on 01/24/14 at 13:22:54

The reason the hose is directed into the airbox, is so that the small amount of oil that would protude out with the air, is recirculated into the intake, instead of out in the environment. The reason you put on a breather filter in combination with tuning, is so you get as much fresh air as possible instead of the oil fumes, which would increase performance.

Title: Re: Getting rid of the airbox
Post by seedubs1 on 01/25/14 at 09:10:08


23342525382F2026242D410 wrote:
please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that hose actually a pcv(positive crankcase ventilation) hose? essentially to relieve pressure from the crankcase and recirculating it back into the intake. If so, putting a small filter on it would be pointless because its releasing air rather than sucking air in.

EDIT: actually now that I think about it, it would be both puling air in and releasing it as the piston moves up and down. Piston up = air in. Piston down = push air out. unless the hose is a totally different system


Yup.  It's really just to keep crap from outside getting in the hose and down into where it shouldn't be.

You can zip tie some old Lycra or something over the end of the tube if you want to be frugal.  Then just tuck the hose up along the frame rail.

Or spend the $4-5 at autozone and get a breather filter...

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