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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/13 at 10:26:27

Title: Better than Green Slime
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/13 at 10:26:27

El Cheepo tubes from China,, seems thats all I can find for the little tires on the generator. They tend to bust loose where the tube hooks to the brass. The Fix A Flat stuff I tried didnt do it, so I opened a can of crack filler expanding foam, Hadda taper the nozzle some to get it to thread into the tube, I guess I better go have a look at it after spending a cold nite with a load on it,, HA! Up Tite, hard as a rock,, LOusy little tubes cost around 7 bucks. Ive had to replace 2 in just the last few years. Im done with that.

I just brought this from another forum, & now that I think about it, I can see how it would MAYBE be a passable solution for a flat, on the road.
If the tire is worn enough to make it silly to pay to have it removed from the rim & remounted, then, maybe filling it up with expanding foam isnt such a horrible idea.. Sure gonna be a booger to get off the rim,,mite hafta resort to some cut off disk in a grinder action..
Just something to think about, what do you folks think?  

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by clearush on 12/26/13 at 10:45:38

Make the ride a little rougher, only problem would be a good consistant fill all the way around and would it compact itself down along the way?

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by verslagen1 on 12/26/13 at 11:16:15

I want to do this with the dolly tires.
for m/c tires?
nah, foam compacts and you'll have a tough time getting it fixed.  
last chance tires? maybe.   :-?
burn out tires? yup.   8-)

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by S-P on 12/26/13 at 11:37:07

... maybe filling it up with expanding foam isnt such a horrible idea.. Sure gonna be a booger to get off the rim,,mite hafta resort to some cut off disk in a grinder action..
Just something to think about, what do you folks think?  
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I worked with expanding foam a lot in construction. There would be no way to control the expansion and uniformity in a tire. The stuff has a mind of its own.  It's not like slime where you could put it in then ride it to spin it into place. And it will be a beeotch to remove the tire and clean it off the rim later.  

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by ZAR on 12/26/13 at 12:13:31

JOG we've toyed with this idea at the dealership fo those pesky little tires you're talking about,just haven't tried it yet.

As for road tires on a bike :-? :-/ maybe,like you said,as a last chance kinda thing. It would be better riding 50 miles to town or home at 35mph on bumpy tires than walkin' or pushin' . As for cleaning up....we've got tubes in our tires so the mess should be minimal.......unless ya got one Hades of a leak :o!

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by 12Bravo on 12/26/13 at 19:20:09

One job I had, we used 3 golf carts for the maintenance department. We foam filled the tires on them to prevent flats. The foam filled tires lasted but made for a ruff ride.

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by MMRanch on 12/26/13 at 19:22:38

I got an old chevy s'10 frame I use for a round-bale feeder.   Welded cross-members in the bottom and post all the way around.   Well I had the idea to fill the tires with "FOAM" ...  ::)
Kinda had mixed results with it.

First I tried putting it in through the valve-core.  :-X
Next I tried taking the valve core out and putting in in the valve-core hole ...  :-X   It wouldn't go all the way around the tire ???  :-/

So I bored 1/2" holes in the tire at 4 points around the tread ...  :P ... kinda worked  :o

but what really did good was to break the tire down on one side , and squirt it in all the way around then wait for it to  "GROW ! "  Well the last three tires seated and look good and the first on still has problems.    ;D

The only time the trailer moves is when the cows have stomped mud knee deep all the way around it and I need to reloacate it.   So I grab it with the frontend loader and set it down somewhere else.  

Its been 3 years and still working !  :)

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by old_rider on 12/26/13 at 21:41:37

Jog... on my old craftsman generator I cut up a 2 X 12 into 2 wheels and drilled a hole thru the axle, used about 2 washers on the inside (for spacing) and about 4 on the outside and put a cotter key thru the axle hole. No more flat spots on my wheels!!!  :)

Have yet to do this for my new generac generator..... dang.... yet another project... I'll take pics this time.

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/13 at 22:28:13

If this doesnt work out well,, Im thinking this mite be the cheap, easy answer

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/IIT-10-PU-No-Flat-Foam-Filled-Tire-5-8-ID-with-Load-Capacity-Up-to-260-Lbs-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/ZacAAOxyOFRSH2dc/$T2eC16FHJGYFFlIqpy1wBSH2db8(jg~~60_35.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/IIT-10-PU-No-Flat-Foam-Filled-Tire-5-8-ID-with-Load-Capacity-Up-to-260-Lbs-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/ZacAAOxyOFRSH2dc/$T2eC16FHJGYFFlIqpy1wBSH2db8(jg~~60_35.JPG

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/13 at 22:29:05


706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote:
If this doesnt work out well,, Im thinking this mite be the cheap, easy answer

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/IIT-10-PU-No-Flat-Foam-Filled-Tire-5-8-ID-with-Load-Capacity-Up-to-260-Lbs-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/ZacAAOxyOFRSH2dc/$T2eC16FHJGYFFlIqpy1wBSH2db8(jg~~60_35.JPG

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Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by old_rider on 12/27/13 at 13:49:23

If your generator is over 6,000 watts, no amount of rubber wheel is going to stop the flat spots. My new 8,000+ generac has solid wheels and they get flat spots, I have to roll it around every other week, to the flat spot doesn't get too bad.
I don't have anymore 2 x 12 pieces left so I am going to have to think of something else to use, time to do another backyard bill production.  ::)


Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/27/13 at 23:07:12

Flat spots dont bother me, its when the internal pressure of the tube = atmospheric pressure that gets me down, Ive bought 2 or 3 of those crappy tubes ( about $7.00 ea.) in the last 4 or 5 years. I dont want to be trying to solve a flat tire issue when I need to drag the generator out of the shed & up to the house. & No, making a pass thru to check the tires on it every few days isnt gonna fit into my life,The tires Simply Must be dependable, & a coupla hunks O 2X10 are not outta the question. I Like that idea.

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by old_rider on 12/27/13 at 23:24:52

The craftsman 2 x 12 wood tires were pressure treated oak... hard as marble...b.i.t.c.h to cut and shape.....
I am thinking of cutting the tires off the rims and putting wood pieces glued to the rim and a thick pvc pipe around the wood with countersunk screws to hold the pvc on to the wood.
Could shape the edges of the pvc to make it semi-round, maybe use some schedule 2 pvc..... the thick sewer stuff....gotta find some... not sure if I have some in the shed.

Title: Re: Better than Green Slime
Post by prechermike on 12/31/13 at 05:21:24

I once had a homemade trailer to pull behind the mower, with the rear tires from another mower, homemade, like I said. When one of those tires when flat I took it off, laid it on its side and filled it about half full of concrete, just happened to have it laying around, let it set put it back on and off we went.  Worked like a charm! When the other tire went flat, I did the same thing, no flat spots, EVER!  :D

But a trailer with two cement wheels pulls heavy. :-/

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