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Title: Srinath's vaccines Post by Paraquat on 12/03/13 at 14:59:29 Where is Sri anyway? Pine? The Vaccine Hoax is Over. Documents from UK reveal 30 Years of Coverup Share This Add to Delicious Share on FriendFeed Digg submit to reddit Tags VaccinationVaccination Hoax is overVaccines Andrew Baker ( FFN),- Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have 1. Known the vaccines don’t work 2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent 3. Known they are a hazard to children 4. Colluded to lie to the public 5. Worked to prevent safety studies Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US. 800px-Smallpox_vaccineEducated parents can either get their children out of harm’s way or continue living inside one of the largest most evil lies in history, that vaccines – full of heavy metals, viral diseases, mycoplasma, fecal material, DNA fragments from other species, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (a sterilizing agent) – are a miracle of modern medicine. Freedom of Information Act filed in the US with the CDC by a doctor with an autistic son, seeking information on what the CDC knows about the dangers of vaccines, had by law to be responded to in 20 days. Nearly 7 years later, the doctor went to court and the CDC argued it does not have to turn over documents. A judge ordered the CDC to turn over the documents on September 30th, 2011. On October 26, 2011, a Denver Post editorial expressed shock that the Obama administration, after promising to be especially transparent, was proposing changes to the Freedom of Information Act that would allow it to go beyond declaring some documents secret and to actually allow government agencies (such as the CDC) to declare some document “non-existent.” Simultaneous to this on-going massive CDC cover up involving its primary “health” not recommendation but MANDATE for American children, the CDC is in deep trouble over its decades of covering up the damaging effects of fluoride and affecting the lives of all Americans, especially children and the immune compromised. Lawsuits are being prepared. Children are ingesting 3-4 times more fluoride by body weight as adults and “[t]he sheer number of potentially harmed citizens — persons with dental fluorosis, kidney patients tipped into needing dialysis, diabetics, thyroid patients, etc — numbers in the millions.” The CDC is obviously acting against the health of the American people. But the threat to the lives of the American people posed by the CDC’s behavior does not stop there. It participated in designed pandemic laws that are on the books in every state in the US, which arrange for the government to use military to force unknown, untested vaccines, drugs, chemicals, and “medical” treatments on the entire country if it declares a pandemic emergency. The CDC’s credibility in declaring such a pandemic emergency is non-existent, again based on Freedom of Information Act. For in 2009, after the CDC had declared the H1N1 “pandemic,” the CDC refused to respond to Freedom of Information Act filed by CBS News and the CDC also attempted to block their investigation. What the CDC was hiding was its part in one of the largest medical scandals in history, putting out wildly exaggerated data on what it claimed were H1N1 cases, and by doing so, created the false impression of a “pandemic” in the US. The CDC was also covering up e financial scandal to rival the bailout since the vaccines for the false pandemic cost the US billions. And worse, the CDC put pregnant women first in line for an untested vaccine with a sterilizing agent, polysorbate 80, in it. Thanks to the CDC, “the number of vaccine-related “fetal demise” reports increased by 2,440 percent in 2009 compared to previous years, which is even more shocking than the miscarriage statistic [700% increase]. The exposure of the vaccine hoax is running neck and neck with the much older hoax of a deadly 1918-19 flu. It was aspirin that killed people in 1918-19, not a pandemic flu. It was the greatest industrial catastrophe in human history with 20-50 million people dying but it was blamed on a flu. The beginning of the drug industry began with that success (and Monsanto was part of it). The flu myth was used by George Bush to threaten the world with “another pandemic flu that could kill millions” – a terror tactic to get pandemic laws on the books in every state and worldwide. Then the CDC used hoax of the pandemic hoax to create terror over H1N1 and to push deadly vaccines on the public, killing thousands of unborn children and others. (CDC will not release the data and continues to push the same vaccine.) The hoax of the vaccine schedule is over, exposed by FOIAs in the UK. The hoax of the CDC’s interest in children’s lives has been exposed by its refusal to respond to a doctor’s FOIAs around its knowledge of vaccine dangers. The 1918-19 pandemic hoax has been exposed by Dr. Karen Starko’s work on aspirin’s role in killing people. And despite refusing to respond to FOIAS, the CDC’s scandalous hoax of a 2009 flu pandemic and its part in creating it, was exposed by CBS NEWS. And the Obama administration, in attempting to salvage the last vestige of secrecy around what is really happening with vaccines, by declaring agency documents non-existent, has made its claim of transparency, non-existent. But pandemic laws arranging for unknown vaccines to be forced on the entire country are still in place with HHS creating a vaccine mixture that should never be used on anyone and all liability for vaccines having been removed. Meanwhile, a Canadian study has just proven that the flu vaccine containing the H1N1 vaccine which kills babies in utero, actually increases the risk of serious pandemic flu. Americans who have been duped into submitting their children to the CDC’s deadly vaccines, have a means to respond now. People from every walk of life and every organization, must 1. take the information from the UK FOIAs exposing 30 years of vaccine lies, the refusal of the CDC to provide any information on what it knows about those lies, and the Obama Administration’s efforts to hide the CDC’s awareness of those lies, and go to their state legislatures, demand the immediate nullification of the CDC vaccine schedule and the pandemic laws. 2. inform every vet. active duty military person, law enforcement people, DHS agents and medical personnel they know, of the vaccine hoax, for their families are deeply threatened, too, but they may not be aware of it or that they have been folded into agency structures by the pharmaceutical industry (indistinguishable from the bankers and oil companies) that would make them agents of death for their country with the declaration of a “pandemic” emergency or “bio-terrorist” attack. It is completely clear now that the terrorism/bioterrorism structures are scams so that any actions taken to “protect” this country using those laws would in fact be what threatens the existence of Americans. It was aspirin that killed millions in 1918-19. Now it is mandated and unknown, untested vaccines with banned adjuvants in them that threaten the country with millions of deaths. At the same time, the CDC is holding 500,000 mega-coffins, built to be incinerated, on its property outside Atlanta. Not to put to fine a point on this, but it’s clear now that the CDC should not be involved in any way with public health. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), we know that vaccines are not a miracle of modern medicine. Any medical or government authority which insists vaccines prevent diseases is either ignorant of government documents (and endless studies) revealing the exact opposite or of the CDC’s attempts to hide the truth about vaccines from the public, or means harm to the public. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), we know the vaccine schedule is a hoax. The health danger to American children and adults are vaccines. Andrew Baker via Food Freedom News http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/10/the-vaccine-hoax-is-over-freedom-of-information-act-documents-from-uk-reveal-30-years-of-coverup/ --Steve |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by Serowbot on 12/03/13 at 15:24:26 Might as well read what science has to say... https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-lucija-tomljenovic-christopher-shaw.2444/ http://sciblogs.co.nz/diplomaticimmunity/2013/05/02/more-pseudo-scientific-garbage-from-tomljenovic-and-shaw/ |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/04/13 at 10:05:00 Has anyone ever actually done a scientific efficacy study? Has there been a few hundred people vaccinated for the flu,. Another few hundred given a placebo shot & then another few hundred, no shot at all, then see what %age of each group get the flu? I havent seen it,,, |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by verslagen1 on 12/04/13 at 11:28:18 Last outbreak of small pox? How about polio? medicine is still a black art, they still are only beginning to pull back the veil. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/04/13 at 12:44:28 I had a doctor explain polio to me. She is the one who saved my life. It was waning as the vaccine came out. Its source is nasty living. Cleanliness begets health, living in streets where pots are emptied from windows? Ehhh,, not so much, Have you any idea how many GET polio from the vaccine? http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-03-28/paralysis-haunts-polio-free-india/ continuing to believe when observed reality counters is not exactly what I call logical. If vaccines are SO protective & IF w/o them, society would see death upon death, why do the Amish survive? They dont live in protected enclaves, they go into town, they even work in town, theyre not insulated or isolated, yet, they dont vaccinate, they have no autism nor are they ravaged by disease. Do the math. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by dinsdale on 12/04/13 at 12:57:26 382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:
1 in 3 million people develop Polio from the Oral Polio Vaccine. http://www.wpro.who.int/china/topics/polio/faq/en/index.html http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-denialists-hate-bill-gates/ Herd Immunity Yes in fact , the Amish do have Autism. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/04/13 at 13:40:27 Show me,, & then show me that their rates are even close to what is common in America, then, make sure youre not looking at an Amish adoptee that was vaccinated prior to adoption. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by old_rider on 12/05/13 at 09:23:13 Health reports are all misconstrued to the point of the company or poll taker wants them to go. Its like the lung cancer vrs. smoking..... my birth mother smoked from age 12 till she passed away at 87....well she stopped for the last 8 months because she got alzhimers and a muscle destroying nerve disease, not from cancer of the lungs. I on the other hand only smoked for 30 years and developed stage III cancer, but not of the lungs, mine was discovered in my neck lymphnodes, there by it was in my bloodstream, maybe caused by smoking, but they can't prove that. Vaccines were initially started by injecting horses with blood tainted virus and then drawing the blood from it if it survived and sterilizing it for human use (horses have stronger immune systems than we do). When doctors and scientists started doing this in a lab, they had to make a cocktail of blood particles similar to horses immune systems and implant the virus into a dish and then watch the outcome. I guess by using eggs they substituted horse dna and got better results by adding other chemicals harmful to humans but got better results to destroy the virus. Its just like pharm. companies, "look we killed the virus!" never mind that they are giving you typhoid.... they killed the flu didn't they? The FDA has become a joke because all the food companies always stay a step ahead of them with their scientist that can prove the additives used are "safe" for human consumption. Same way with the pharm. companies, they have better scientists... |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by dinsdale on 12/05/13 at 09:38:37 1st, if you believe they don't vaccinate. Correlation does not imply causation. 2nd. It's not true. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/06/23/peds.2009-2599.abstract 3rd. The whole thing is false http://autism-news-beat.com/archives/29 |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/13 at 11:41:27 Conclusions: The reasons that Amish parents resist immunizations mirror reasons that non-Amish parents resist immunizations. Even in America's closed religious communities, the major barrier to vaccination is concern over adverse effects of vaccinations. If 85% of Amish parents surveyed accept some immunizations, they are a dynamic group that may be influenced to accept preventative care. Underimmunization in the Amish population must be approached with emphasis on changing parental perceptions of vaccines in addition to ensuring access to vaccines. NOW, Pay Close Attention,, Strauss said the clinic treats “syndromic autism”, where autism as part of a more complicated clinical spectrum that can include mental retardation, chromosomal abnormalities, unusual facial features, and short stature, as well as Fragile X syndrome. “We see quite a few Amish children with Fragile X,” he said. Strauss says he doesn’t see “idiopathic autism” at the clinic – children with average or above average IQs who display autistic behavior. “My personal experience is we don’t see a lot of Amish children with idiopathic autism. It doesn’t mean they don’t exist, only that we aren’t seeing them at the clinic. Changing the definition of Autism to apply to things like what would appear to be likely birth defects, kinda skews the report,, BUT read on, Strauss said the clinic treats “syndromic autism”, where autism as part of a more complicated clinical spectrum that can include mental retardation, chromosomal abnormalities, unusual facial features, and short stature, as well as Fragile X syndrome. “We see quite a few Amish children with Fragile X,” he said. Strauss says he doesn’t see “idiopathic autism” at the clinic – children with average or above average IQs who display autistic behavior. “My personal experience is we don’t see a lot of Amish children with idiopathic autism. It doesn’t mean they don’t exist, only that we aren’t seeing them at the clinic. Now, my questions remain,, and are expanded,. Have there been scientific, double blind tests to validate the claimed efficacy of vaccines? I havent seen them or been able to find them. We NEED scientifically large enough number of participants to reach a conclusion. A group vaccinated ( flu would be an easy & relatively safe one) , A group given a placebo injection ( saline solution) A group not vaccinated see what %ages of each group get the flu, providing they all have approximately the same exposure potentials, ( Wouldnt be a scientifically relevant test if the vaccinated were effectively shut ins while the placebo group worked in day cares & doctors offices, if ya get my drift) Now, I went looking for CDC recommended vaccine schedules. I cant find them for anything but current times. I Want to see them and I want to see autism rates & see if they correlate. The vaccine ( Shots , im tired of typing Vaccines) schedule has increased a great deal from when we were kids. AS has autism. Id like to see if they can be shown to be increasing "hand in hand". If anyone can drag up cdc recommended shots from the 60's & 70's & 80's, etc, etc & autism rates, Id sure thank you. Odd it is that those things dont just pop up.. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by WebsterMark on 12/06/13 at 06:18:35 interesting timing: a report out this week from CDC that three times as many cases of measles this year as previous years; up to 175 this year. All but three were traced to international travelers. Europe had 21,000 case in first 6 months of year. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/06/13 at 13:48:37 Measles? When a kid down the road got them I took my kid down there to get them & get it over with,, Measles is no big deal, just get it & get it young & get over with it, |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by verslagen1 on 12/06/13 at 14:48:17 why is shingles just a big issue now? |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/06/13 at 15:06:04 Crawler under the weather Measles up 300%, MOST victims unvaccinated. Well,, how many who WERE vaccinated got it anyway? & WHY? I thot they were protected.. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by old_rider on 12/07/13 at 07:52:56 Well... I'm kinda wandering why the Amish have fewer diseases and autism myself. Since they are a close knit community and the genetic pool is small, wouldn't according to science the chance of inbreeding make them more likely to have defects? I can see the immunity factor being genetically stronger for those folks who don't get immunized simply for the fact that survival would mean a stronger immune system, thus over the years all of the weak immune system folks died off from the diseases and the strong ones survived. But ya gotta kinda wonder about those religious fanatical types.... some are accused of killing babes with defects at birth and not letting them survive to produce more defective offspring. There by stopping the gene pool from becoming tainted by "bad blood". Just my 3 cents..... |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/07/13 at 09:39:22 But ya gotta kinda wonder about those religious fanatical types.... some are accused of killing babes with defects at birth and not letting.... not restricted to any group.. plenty of people would drown a messed up kid if they thot they could get away with it,, Hey, Tom,, Hows Martha? She have the kid yet? Uh, yea,, guess you didnt hear,, our baby was, uhh, stillborn,, yea,, thats it.. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by WebsterMark on 12/08/13 at 16:51:46 5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:
Jesus Jog, come back down to earth would ya?! |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by Paraquat on 12/09/13 at 06:10:53 No, he's quite accurate. Whether the parent's were knowing or willing or not doctors have euthanized babies that demonstrated physical defects in the past. "Beginning in early 1939, babies born with birth defects or with congenital diseases were euthanized. Their doctors would admit these unfortunate infants to medical clinics, where they would be killed. The practice quickly became systematized. Regulations made it mandatory for midwives and doctors to notify authorities whenever a baby was born with birth defects. These cases would be reviewed by the euthanasia referees to determine if the children were eligible for euthanasia. Those deemed killable were usually dispatched via an overdose of a drug, most typically a sedative called Luminal. The euphemism of choice for this murder was "treatment." Most, but not all, of this killing was done in secret." http://www.discovery.org/a/3384 My first search result was, unfortunately, Nazi Germany but that doesn't make it any less real. I have heard of this occurring in the states. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by WebsterMark on 12/09/13 at 06:33:07 Fine, I'll concede the point from the past, but let's at least stay in this century.....I doubt this us a big problem looking at the big picture. Besides, anyone prochoice can't say a word against that practice. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by pgambr on 12/09/13 at 07:18:53 I wouldn't be surprised when you see some of the folks where I live. Jeff Foxworthy gets his material from country folk from the south. I'm afraid the deep south is a bit different. :o |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by old_rider on 12/09/13 at 08:45:59 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
Yes it was a practice in the past... but like I said... religious fanatics still practice this and the law cannot touch them. They will allow anyone to die if sick or injured so bad that their medical skills cannot fix. It is their way, has been for years and they will not change. Their gene pool is getting smaller every century and some have resorted to adopting babies into their culture to keep it from dying out. Ask me how I know... I was a foster child from 5yrs old with a one year old brother, they wanted him because he was not inoculated yet and didn't want me because mine had already started, be we were a "two for one deal" and couldn't be split up. |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/13 at 10:06:26 74777F69727F7E691B0 wrote:
WEBSTER,, Thats what I was responding to.. I AM down to Earth |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by old_rider on 12/10/13 at 00:04:52 And now I am the factual space alien.... hmmmmm :-? |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/11/13 at 09:20:13 Nope, your point was well taken,, it just crosses that "religious" group line. Infanticide isnt uncommon in history. Its not difficult to justify. Look how hard life can be. Imagine tying to survive AND raise a child that you KNOW can never fend for itself, due to obvious birth defects. YOu suppose American indian tribes would raise a child that was born with some kind of deformity that meant that kid couldnt be a productive member of society? |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by old_rider on 12/14/13 at 02:00:28 Heck no...you know that is a fact. If you got old or crippled the tribe would leave you to rot in the desert, you had to pull your own weight in the indian society. LOL, even the old ladies with no teeth could still gum a hide to soften it for leather shoes! |
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Title: Re: Srinath's vaccines Post by Paraquat on 05/19/14 at 09:51:38 A meta-analysis including nearly 1.3 million children posted online last week in the journal Vaccine has demonstrated, once again, that there's no causal link between vaccines and autism. The paper is an online "uncorrected proof." That means it has already been through peer review and has been accepted, but there could still be a few tweaks to fix typos and such. From the abstract: Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder. Furthermore, the components of the vaccines (thimerosal or mercury) or multiple vaccines (MMR) are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder. The bullet-points provided by the authors in the paper's "highlights" section are remarkably straightforward: • Five cohort studies involving 1,256,407 children and five case-control studies involving 9920 children were included in this analysis. • There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06). • There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD [autism spectrum disorder] (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20). • There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01). • There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31). • There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07). • Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder. The OR there is the "odds ratio." Emily Willingham explains at Forbes: It's not that we didn't know that already. But a meta-analysis takes the existing research and grinds the numbers and gives the bigger picture of what the aggregate of the findings tells us. Indeed, looking a the odds ratios the authors report–in which 1 means no effect of vaccine or other variable on odds and less than 1 means reduced odds–the data suggest reduced autism risk among children who received the MMR vaccine. The most interesting part may be an "Epilogue," written by one of the study's three authors. As an epidemiologist I believe the data that is presented in this meta-analysis. However, as a parent of three children I have some understanding of the fears associated with reactions and effects of vaccines. My first two children have had febrile seizures after routine vaccinations, one of them a serious event. These events did not stop me from vaccinating my third child, however, I did take some proactive measures to reduce the risk of similar adverse effects. I vaccinated my child in the morning so that we were aware if [sic] any early adverse reaction during the day and I also gave my child a dose of paracetamol 30 min before the vaccination was given to reduce any fever that might develop after the injection. As a parent I know my children better than anyone and I equate their seizures to the effects of the vaccination by increasing their body temperature. For parents who do notice a significant change in their child's cognitive function and behaviour after a vaccination I encourage you to report these events immediately to your family physician and to the 'Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System'. So there you have it. 1,266,327 more data points that vaccines do not cause autism or autism spectrum disorder. http://animals.io9.com/study-of-1-3-million-kids-reveals-vaccines-arent-associ-1577691180?asdfghj --Steve |
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