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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Registration leads to confiscation. /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1385701210 Message started by Paraquat on 11/28/13 at 21:00:10 |
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Title: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Paraquat on 11/28/13 at 21:00:10 http://truthaboutguns.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2013-11-27-at-9.31.12-AM.png New York’s SAFE Act is a bad, bad thing. It requires people to register, sell or transfer (out of state) “assault rifles” and “high capacity” magazines. Many Empire State gun and standard capacity ammunition magazine owners have complied. Many have not. So, at some point, the State’s gonna go get ‘em. People on both sides of the law enforcement divide will die and the s will hit the fan. Meanwhile, there it is: the reason why expanded background checks, indeed all background checks and any type of registration, set the stage for confiscation. And tyranny. [ED: This notice was sent for New York City residents, based on New York City laws, not necessarily SAFE Act provisions.] [h/t DrVino] http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/begins-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/ --Steve |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Paraquat on 12/02/13 at 06:05:11 No comments? Really? None of you people who said "They won't confiscate anything" care to chime in? --Steve |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Dane Allen on 12/02/13 at 14:32:30 78495A49595D495C280 wrote:
Maybe we don't want them to know that we have anything, they are always listening in. If I did own anythiing I would never register it as that is infringment. They would kill me anyway but that just shows how evil they are. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by 45acp on 12/03/13 at 06:31:40 well i guess thats just another reason i will never go to new york. well i might go there someday. seems like it will be a target rich enviroment. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by oldNslow on 12/03/13 at 06:56:30 Quote:
Well, I didn't comment because I think the title of the thread pretty much says all that there is to say. The ONLY reason for registration of firearms is to facilitate eventual confiscation. You will of course hear all sorts of other supposed reasons, but they are all hogwash. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/13 at 08:31:48 If I got that, I think i'd send it back with Fxxx You written on it.... |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Serowbot on 12/03/13 at 09:15:04 So that's where my cars keep going... :-?... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/04/13 at 13:52:59 Yea, Rowboat,, conflate cars & guns.. How do cars, which allow us to go to work & participate in the "economy" ( such as it is) & keep the $$$ rolling in to the criminals who own the whole game, to guns which allow us to defend ourselves against criminals, both masked ( the muggers) & unmasked( the goobs) threaten the power of the goobs? Look at history. Look at the tyrants who have taken the guns. ( Mao, Hitler, Castro, etc.)Look at how they started down that road. There arent any blinders sufficiently opaque to make difficult seeing what registration is for . |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Trippah on 12/10/13 at 16:29:34 So, all you gun owners, what do you think would be an appropriate punishment?? This relates to the death of Aubrey Peters. Frankly 20 years isn't enough in my opinion. If we don't hold ourselves responsible for how our guns are used, we shouldn't have them. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by old_rider on 12/10/13 at 16:40:16 Are you saying for the friend who shot her or the parents who didn't lock the guns away? The boy is to be considered an adult after 16, so should be charged as an adult. And its involuntary manslaughter as he didn't mean to kill her, just that he was obviously not schooled in gun handling very well. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by ZAR on 12/10/13 at 18:07:40 6C4A5148485950380 wrote:
I will state that without any doubt,each situation MUST BE JUDGED INDIVIDUALLY! You can not cast a wide net without violating the rights of innocent citizens. At that point you cease to live in a free nation. No one person's tragedy is worth the loss of rights of everyone else! Period!!! |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/11/13 at 09:23:56 Why do people want to punish people who Did NOT pull a trigger? Okay, I leave a knife on the kitchen counter, someone comes over to visit, gets mad, & plunges the knife in my kids heart.. Punish me for leaving it out? People want to punish society when a guy goes wacko with a gun, lets change the rules for EVERY body,, instead of taking the bad guy & hanging him in public. THAT would help society. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by ZAR on 12/11/13 at 16:37:01 6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
+1 |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Trippah on 12/12/13 at 11:36:21 well I was thinking of the young fool that pointed a pistol at someone and pulled the trigger, he should get 20 years for killing an innocent friend. It will keep him out of the gene pool. As for the person who owns the pistol, a good 5-10 for not having it locked and secured unless fool 1 went around the security, unlocking the gun vault, removing the trigger guard. Like most of you, I do not like registration of guns (because I don't really trust the government) but I hate stupid even more. I do think restricting the ownership of semi and auto weapons is reasonable as they are weapons for killing people, straight and simple. I'm not against killing people, Vietnam cured that bias, but there has to be a good reason (like they were VP with Pres Bush.) ;) |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Trippah on 12/12/13 at 11:40:02 The reason we don't go after the owner of a knife is that knives (usually) are used for food prep. Pistols and the like are for killing people (that is why they are made) so the owner should be more aware of what the pistol might be used for. (and yes, I know they thankfully are usually used for target practice etc - so few of us own weapons so we can go about killing other humans each and every day. ;D |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/13 at 11:51:45 Again, the owner isnt responsible for the idiocy of an adult, Anyone over the age of 12 has seen enough people"killed" by guns on TV to know that aiming one at someone & pulling the trigger is likely to kill someone. Responsibility belongs to the one pulling the trigger, not the homeowner When a gun owner has visitors that arent aged 16 or older, best to put them away, yes. Parents need to teach kids NOT to mess with guns & respect the possessions of others & NOT mess with them w/o permission. Surely you agree,, so, lets charge the shooters parents. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Paraquat on 12/12/13 at 14:36:09 Florida actually did something right in my eyes: The 10-20-Life law. Quote:
--Steve |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by old_rider on 12/14/13 at 01:52:44 Yeah, the owner, if they have children, should lock the weapons away when they are not at home. However, a 16+ child should know how to use one properly in case mom and dad are not at home to defend the family. Now if mom and dad don't fire the weapon... how can you blame them? I loaned a weapon to a friend for target practice.... him and a few buddies went out in the desert to shoot up some cans, I had loaned it to him several times no problem. However, the last time I loaned it to him, him and his buddies went to the same spot, took the "new guy" and decided to drink and throw cans up in the air to shoot like the cowboys did... well, when they were way toasted, the "new guy" was sent out to set up the cans and while he was bent over setting them on the bank, ol' drunk joe said "lets scare him" and shot the can to the left of the "new guy"... well he attempted to shot the can, what actually happened was he shot the "new guy" in the azz and the bullet went up through his body and exited out his shoulder near his neck, killed him dead, just like that. Now according to you, I should have spent 5-10 years in jail for letting my buddy use my gun? Oh, my buddy was passed out in the back of the pickup, one of the other drunks shot the "new guy". So should we have all gone to jail? I didn't know they were going to drink, didn't do it the first couple of times..... |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/13 at 10:28:05 Thats a screwed up story. IMO, the idiot who pulled the trigger is the only bad guy, If you loaned your car to a guy & he went partying, got drunk, passed out in the back seat & someone got the keys & took off & crashed & killed someone,, who is the bad guy? Now its not a gun,, is it easier to see who should go to jail? |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Paraquat on 12/16/13 at 06:18:44 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teens-busted-letting-conn-girl-drive-drunk-fatal-crash-article-1.1539646 Tell me, JOG, what's wrong with that picture? Two teens are charged with "letting her" drive drunk. The teens " 'allowed her to operate the vehicle,' Kennedy said." --Steve |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/13 at 07:28:46 Huhh? Whose car was it? You really expect a coupla GUYS to tell some good lookin gal she is NOT gonna drive her car? IDK the situation, but just because someone THINKS those guys should have known to Not let her drive, does that mean they are correct? Ive tried to stop people from driving, & I have some experience in just how successfully that is done. The only way to stop someone from driving is get their keys before they even get drunk,.I took everyones keys at a new years party. Sent everyone home in cabs. & Buddy, they Needed the cab. Now, are these guys really at fault for anything? IDK, I wasnt there. Were they friends of the girl? Had they been together that day, hanging out? Did they see her drink & drink & drink & then head for the car? Did they tell her no & then she went? Do the cops think they should have tackled her & held her down? Or did they say nothing? Is it illegal to know someone is about to do something stupid & illegal & not try to stop them? IDK, but I would give it a shot, Id TRY to stop someone from driving drunk,.but I wouldnt tackle them. If I thot they were so messed up as to be a danger to themselves/others, I mite just call the law. Id rather see someone in jail than in a wreck & then jail. Tho, God only knows how many times I drove home so tanked up I woulda gone to jail had I been caught. I was in Odessa, back in the days when a cop would look a guy over & decide if he could make it home or not,,Ive had cops tell me to go home & stay home, be seen on the street again & go to jail. Now, its jail if youve had 2 lousy beers. |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by Paraquat on 12/16/13 at 11:19:25 There are so many ads on the side of the page, and in the middle of the page, you'd have to follow that link for the story. I haven't the time to copy and paste the meat and potatoes during my break at work. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/17/13 at 08:39:51 Arrite.. Im not interested enough to go thru it all either.. my Outrage Cup is pretty full right now anyway. |
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