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Message started by Dane Allen on 11/21/13 at 13:21:12

Title: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Dane Allen on 11/21/13 at 13:21:12

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/11/21/reid-threatens-nuclear-option-in-senateagain-n1750877

We are about half way down the slippery slope and gaining speed, liberals have seized power over the federal government they themselves called a constitutional crisis and unamerican. Now that they are in power and that power is slipping they have decided to go the way of the dictator.

The nuclear option has been triggered and the representative government we have grown up under is no more. Soon, judges will be appointed that will rubber stamp our decline into tyranny. I never excpected this to happen here and defiinitely not in my lifetime. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Pine on 11/21/13 at 13:55:00

Indeed. Tis a very sad sight.

Even "older" democrats were not sure they were going to support this. Well the deed is done. If this can be done.. then what cannot? The US senate no longer functions as it has in my lifetime. What expectation should I have for any other elected body?

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Dane Allen on 11/22/13 at 13:27:43

4B72757E6F74691B0 wrote:

Obamacare was the prime example of why these things need to be debated ad nauseum. That is the pointof debate, to try to see all the angles but now political expedience rules the day and lives can be repared after the legistlation is passed, the consequences dealt with and mass sums of potential future minority wealth evaporate into the ether.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Trippah on 11/22/13 at 13:59:39

So when we hold our arm up in Salute to the President, is it the right or left arm, and is the hand in a fist or is it flat?? I get cornfused. ;)

Gotta get me one of them flags to put in my lapel least they think I'm a Commie Pinko Facist Jihadist. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/22/13 at 15:21:34

I've never seen Obama salute the flag or put his hand over his heart during a flag raising ceremony. To me that means he's not an American!

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by verslagen1 on 11/25/13 at 08:06:52

4A6E63696E606F73756E636275070 wrote:

I've never seen Obama salute the flag or put his hand over his heart during a flag raising ceremony. To me that means he's not an American!

There's a photoshop'd pic floating about with his left hand over his heart.

Actually, it was his right but they flipped the pic to show otherwise.

So there's one pic.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/25/13 at 09:33:41

I know he did when he was sworn into office but I havent seen him do it sense. I saw him at a sporting event while the Star Spangled Banner was being sung and the flag was being raised and thousands of Americans all had their hands over their heart but him.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/26/13 at 08:42:34

Midnight -
I for one don't do the hand over the heart thing either when the national anthem is played. I prefer to properly stand at attention.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/26/13 at 11:31:59

Jerry somehow I knew I was gonna get that response but you were the last person on this forum I thought it would come from.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/26/13 at 11:36:39

I knew a lot of WW II veterans who did that, and, of course, most of them have passed on now. I think it shows more respect, and brings back some memories.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/26/13 at 11:41:47

If the veterans do it I can go along with it but our fearless leader is anything but a veteran.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/26/13 at 11:47:03

Standing at attention, by a veteran, is how he/she stood when the anthem was played while he/she was in the service. I agree, Obama, having never actually served, may not qualify.
BUT, an argument can be made that since he is the Commander in Chief, he is "in" the military by the wording of the Constitution.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/26/13 at 11:58:13

Jerry I'll admit you probably know a lot more about the Constitution than I do but I'm fully aware of whats been taken away from the Constitution since he took office.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/26/13 at 12:01:47

Fortunately, the document that is the Constitution hasn't changed, but he is simply ignoring parts of it.
But, you have to know that I am in favor of the Patriot Act. There are times when certain things have to be done in the interests of serious threats to the national security. Are you aware that during the Civil War, Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus?

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/26/13 at 12:06:58

Jerry I remember reading about Lincoln doing that (I'm ashamed I cant spell it) years ago now that you brought it up.

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Paraquat on 11/26/13 at 13:46:25

5B54585259545F535443565443310 wrote:

Are you aware that during the Civil War, Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus?

He did so to enact martial law in Kentucky.
That's how these things go.

--Steve

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by WebsterMark on 11/26/13 at 14:24:22

Is that a joke?

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Serowbot on 11/26/13 at 14:26:24

7E5A575D5A545B47415A575641330 wrote:

I've never seen Obama salute the flag or put his hand over his heart during a flag raising ceremony. To me that means he's not an American!

Gimme' a frikkin' break!...
http://americanswagger.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/obama_pledge.jpg
http://www.windycityword.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/obama-pledge-of-allegiance.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/11/01/PH2007110101367.jpg
http://www.truthorfiction.com/images/Obama911c.jpg

Photoshopped by rightwing nutbag racist childish retards....
http://obamaforwards.com/content/binary/handheart.jpg

Good enough?.. or do you want more?...
I wish you guys would grow up...

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Serowbot on 11/26/13 at 15:10:49

How 'bout this dude?... you have to forgive him...
He's not good at biology... ;D...
http://my2bucks.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bush_hand_heart-789605.jpg
...or this one?...
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/lanavanvleet/s-BUSH-PATRIOTISM-PROBLEM-large.jpg

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2013/0527/20130527__1-obama%20pledge_300.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/11/xin_2221104111535546275663.jpg
http://imgace.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/sorry-laura-bush.jpg
http://universe.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Obama-Sept-11-Anniver_Bing.jpg

Title: Re: Here We Go!! Bye Bye Freedom
Post by Midnightrider on 11/26/13 at 19:15:38

Bot I dont know where you found all those pics but I never googled it. I saw him at a couple of sporting events on TV and he never put his hand over his heart. This was after his second election which he knows he can get away with anything. That one of Bush is timeless. Either he had his hand over his heart or he was confused about which hand was his right. LOL. That one of Bush Sr agrees with my conspiracy theories LOL.