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Message started by RatdogWillie on 11/19/13 at 14:20:18

Title: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/19/13 at 14:20:18

The 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination is days away. While the controlled corporate media continues to spin the lone assassin lie, good analyses appear in the truthful alternative media. This is a very good article concerning the murder of John F. Kennedy.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/jfk-assassination-coverup-continues/

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/19/13 at 14:27:00

I wondered how long it would take you guys to get torqued up on this subject.
I always enjoy the conspiracy theories, especially since for them to be true, many, many people would have had to have been in on it, and not one of them ever breaks the silence. Just think how many millions will someday be made by the first of the team of the JFK assassins, or the 9/11 perpetrators who comes out with the "real story". I can't wait.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/19/13 at 14:41:58

4649454F4449424E495E4B495E2C0 wrote:

Obviously you couldn't be bothered to read the article. ....and why would a person such as yourself ever be bothered to do so? You are so dam n smart that you know it all....correct????

What you mentioned was covered in the article.

I do enjoy your replies though. It serves to remind me that there are people out there with their heads stuck far up where the sun never shines.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by pgambr on 11/19/13 at 14:58:52

If someone is not in agreement with the warren report does that also mean they wear a tin hat?

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/19/13 at 16:01:21

3621272B2434460 wrote:

If someone is not in agreement with the warren report does that also mean they wear a tin hat?

I don't agree with the warren fabrication or the 9/11 fabrication and I certainly don't wear a tin hat.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/19/13 at 16:35:30

Johnson did it,,well, had it done,,

http://whokilledjfk.net/malcolm_wallace.htm

Johnsons long time mistress & lawyer, too say he did it,

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Serowbot on 11/19/13 at 17:31:33

I'm with Jerry E....
All the real evidence points to Oswald as a loner nutcase...
Not only physical evidence,... but logic and human behavior...
Terrible that such a loser can cause such tragedy... but they can,.. and most often that's what it turns out to be...

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/19/13 at 18:17:11

2C3A2D30283D302B5F0 wrote:

I'm with Jerry E....
All the real evidence points to Oswald as a loner nutcase...

What evidence is that?

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by WebsterMark on 11/20/13 at 05:43:00

Rat: I don't agree with the warren fabrication or the 9/11 fabrication and I certainly don't wear a tin hat.

Dude, you are a walking, talking, breathing tin hat! You are the personification of tin hats! You are the poster boy of tin hats!

I was at the plaza this summer, first time I've been there. What struck me most is how close everything is. From all the news videos, I pictured the area being a much larger space, but it's not. The "grassy knoll" is the upslope leading to an bridge overpass nearby. It's the one the limo disappears behind on the video. I pictured it as a faraway hill, but it's not. There are X's on the street where the shots hit and everyone runs out there when there is a break in traffic to look up at the sixth floor which again, is surprisingly close.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by verslagen1 on 11/20/13 at 11:31:31

Inside the evidence on the REELZ channel takes a look at the bullets that struck JFK and makes a compelling argument that 2 bullets came from ozwald a third came by accident from a secret service agent in a following car.

And following the autopsy cia scooped up all the notes and film and promptly lost it.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/20/13 at 11:46:01

We have to remember that everything about JFK was secretive in those days. His extra marital affairs were legion - one of his ladies was even a suspected East German intelligence agent.
His very poor health was another factor that was not known to the public at large until years after his death.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/13 at 15:16:53

Oswald was seen in the break room 75 seconds after the shooting. There were people on the stairs who said they did not see Oswald. He was not out of breath or excited according to those who saw him in the break room.
That cannister they sealed up & said they would open 20 years later? Still not opened.. IF the oFISHYal version is true, why even do that? What info was there?

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/20/13 at 15:23:09

JOG, Midnight and RatDog -

Is there anything where you don't doubt official explanations?
Who is this global enterprise that you see behind all of the conspiracies that you espouse?

And, please don't dodge the obvious question - if all of these conspiracies abound, you have to admit that to be true, each takes legions of people, all conspiring together, none of whom ever breaks the silence. If you appreciate human nature, that is virtually impossible, because some clown will want to be the hero who exposes all of the "truth behind the story", and make a fortune in the process. Yet, he/she has never come forward. Why? Because it's all nonsense.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by WebsterMark on 11/20/13 at 16:05:34

Good luck Jerry...... I can tell you how this ends if you continue ( but I credit you with more brains than me...). You will provide solid evidence against one theory, jog and rat will pivot to another issue and try to merge the two. You will counter, trying to stay on point, this will occur a few times and you'll manage to back them into a somewhat of a corner. They'll respond with complete lunacy (like Rat's plastic surgery theory or super secret thermite) which, while shaking your head with the thought that these people ride bikes, serve on juries and vote, you'll also refute. By then, another random event will occur and they'll scurry off, sure the next event has been carried out by the secret group that runs our world, a group able to fool 6.9999999billion people on this planet, only a chosen few able to see through their elaborate disguises .....

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/13 at 18:21:19

626D616B606D666A6D7A6F6D7A080 wrote:

Yes, we went to the moon.

Viet Nam, Tonkin Bay "Incident"
Admitted LIE

Saddam, No WMD's
REally/. You buy the BS & pretend Im an idiot for not,, Yippeee,, enjoy delusional life.

The story of JFKisnt public, may never be. Explain the hidden , literally buried, info they said theyd release in 20 years,, shoulda been out 30 years ago,, 18 key witnesses died , some, not odd, most were,,
I remember a young lady Fell out af a car on the interstate,, ever open a door at 70? Spend some time looking into those deaths,,

OKlahoma city, learn who Terry Yeaky was,, cop of the year, called his buddy, told him Im being followed, Im taking some evidence to a prosecutor,, Never made it,, decided instead to commit suicide,,believe what ya want, ignore the evidence to the contrary.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Trippah on 11/20/13 at 18:29:44

Like everyone else, I have suffered through a few films explaining why or why not Oswald acted alone. I think he did but I never got the chance to ask him,,

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/21/13 at 06:43:14

His head went back & to the left,,indicating a shot from the roght front,
The car was Immediately hauled off to Ford, for a windshield, & to be cleaned up, destroyting any evidence.

The guy who could see the grassy knoll died,,he was a railroad employee, sat in a building overlooking the knoll,.,

somebody, Id remember the name if I heard it, did come forward with a death bed confession,, was his name HUnt?

BUT, thge single best evidence ffor me ios,

There was only ONE way up & down, the stairs, There were people ON THOSE STAIRS & THEY Said

No Oswald..AND, he was seen in the brakroom soon after the shootings, He was cool, calm, collected, not excited or out of breath,
Fingerprint of the guy I posted a link to in the snipers nest,,
Oswalds Palm print was applied in the morgue, go look it up

Current Secretary of State John Kerry said recently:

To this day, I have serious doubts that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I certainly have doubts that he was motivated by himself.

Watergate reporter Bob Woodward long ago became a mainstream, establishment journalist.

But Woodward – and long-time CBS news anchor Bob Schieffer – agree that the CIA and FBI refused to give information to the Warren Commission, and so that Commission was in the dark as to what might actually have happened:

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/21/13 at 08:16:53

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, ifso, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so?

Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289

AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended-

By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption

and --

Byrevoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963.

Of course, the fact that both JFK and Lincoln met the the same end is a mere coincidence.

Abraham Lincoln's Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document 23.)

Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national Government.

Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by circulation.

Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The wages of men should be recognised in the structure of and in the social order as more important than the wages of money.

No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.

The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed, and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come into use.

The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government. Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit, and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and creditof the Nation.

Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy.

Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and creditas money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The privilege of creating and issueing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative opportunity.

By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power.

Some information on the Federal Reserve The Federal Reserve, a Private Corporation One of the most common concerns among people who engage in any effort to reduce their taxes is, "Will keeping my money hurt the government's ability to pay it's bills?" As explained in the first article in this series, the modern withholding tax does not, and wasn't designed to, pay for government services. What it does do, is pay for the privately-owned Federal Reserve System.

Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as, "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves."

Privately-owned banks own the stock of the Fed. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said:

Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors.

Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Taking another look at Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:

Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.).

The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:

The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.

As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.

No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:

Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally f

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/21/13 at 08:19:44

It cut me off,, no more room I spose..

Anyway, pay attention here

The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:

The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.

As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.

No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:

Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions.

Now,, Im pretty sure Johnson was the guy who actually got it done,
Doesnt mean he wasnt afforded cover by Hoover & the Fed & CIA,, Whom JFK had stated he intended to break up & scatter to the wind,

These are some of the reasons I dont believe Oswald did it,

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/21/13 at 08:44:45

JOG - I'm not going to spend time in a protracted argument, except to say that motive alone never proves anything. We all have motives from time to time to do something wrong, but we don't do it.
Where is the proof, not just isolated, tangential facts that don't add up to proof?

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/22/13 at 10:10:59

646B676D666B606C6B7C696B7C0E0 wrote:

I am not going to spend alot of time typing because nothing i write will convince you or Webster. If you really want to know the truth listen to this link staring at 8 minutes and the beginning of the second link.
http://archives2013.gcnlive.com/Archives2013/nov13/PowerHour/1121132.mp3
http://archives2013.gcnlive.com/Archives2013/nov13/PowerHour/1121133.mp3
Michael explains it better/faster than I could ever type.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/22/13 at 15:17:34

I watched a lot of TV while in the hospital and they had a special on JFK assassination all week long. The SS Agent who was directly behind Kennedy swears two quick shots came from the grassy knoll. I dont think he had any reason to lie about it. You can see that E Howard Hunt was one of the three bums picked up on the grassy knoll. They showed a video of E Howard Hunt confessing on his deathbed to his son he was involved with the Kennedy assassination. All this was on television in the last week. I dont think Oswald could have pulled it off alone with a bolt action rifle. Good to be back with my buddy JOG. I'm glad I made it, JOG needs me to back him up. Thanks for the prayers and well wishes guys!

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/22/13 at 18:48:11

The official JFK conspiracy in under 5 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJFzhbNd1EI
Ignorance is Strength!

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/13 at 00:04:58

Woo HOOO, Midnight! Good to see ya Pahdnuh,

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/23/13 at 04:58:07

Its good to be back! Missed JOG while I was gone.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/23/13 at 06:18:43

Midnight -
Remember that Oswald was a former Marine. I don't know what weapons Marines used in boot camp way back then, but it may well have been a 1903 Springfield, bolt action. Someone skilled with the Springfield can fire two shots more rapidly than you would think.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/23/13 at 08:46:43

I saw a film on TV last week of LBJ telling the Warren Commission it was Oswald only. Why would E Howard Hunt confess to his son on his deathbed? You dont lie to your family when you know you are dieing. You can clearly see that he was one of the three bums on the grassy knoll. The SS Agent said there was 2 rapid shots that couldn't have been from a bolt action rifle. I be leave these people, not the government. I believe Oswald might have fired one shot but the two rapid shots come from the grassy knoll. The Doctor that first saw Kennedy even said Kennedy was hit in the front by one shot. All of this was on TV last week on film. There's too many people that were involved testifying on film that the Warren Commission lied and I be leave them after I seen the film of LBJ telling the Warren Commission it better be Oswald only. The camera docent lie but the government does! The way the car was moving Oswald would have had to shoot through the trees the final shots. I hunt with a bolt action rifle and there is no way you could shoot as fast as the SS Agent testified. They showed a film of Oswalds perch and a car moving as fast as Kennedys car and I dont care how good you are with a bolt action he couldn't have got off three shots in the time he had a clear target. I think he was using an old Enfield rifle and the action on it isn't as smooth or as accurate as a modern day rifle. After seeing the SS agent saying the final shots were pop pop and testifying there's no way anybody could do that with a bolt action he should know what he's talking about and the Doc testifying he was hit in the front and E Howards Hunt confession I know the goverment lied. All of this was on film last week

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/23/13 at 08:56:56

Midnight -
There was an interesting article this week on Yahoo by the doc who treated JFK in the ER at Parkland Hospital. None of what you say was mentioned.
In fact, the doc went on to say that JFK was wearing a very stiff back brace under his clothing. The first shot hit him in the back, exited thru his trachea, and then hit John Connelly. The doc said that this shot was probably not lethal to JFK. Connelly immediately fell forward in the limo. This is plainly seen in all of the films.
But, JFK did not fall forward because the stiff back brace kept him erect, so the second shot could, and did, hit him in the back of the head.
JFK's bad back was known then, and most people who knew him knew that he almost always wore a back brace, especially on days when he'd be in public.
All of the other things about his poor health and physical condition came out later, after his death, as the media didn't prey on people back then like they do now.
This all makes sense to me.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/23/13 at 09:12:45

Jerry they showed the two bullets that hit Kennedy and you could clearly see they came from two different rifles. I wish you could have seen what I did last week. It was a week long special on one of the major networks, NBC or CBS. I be leave at the time the goverment told these people what to say and now they are coming forward with the truth.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/23/13 at 09:21:03

Never heard that before. Any halfway decent crime lab could identify at least the calibers of the bullets. Did that get mentioned?

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/23/13 at 09:25:38

It was the same caliber but the rifling was different. You could plainly see it. Years ago the Warren Commision said they would tell the truth in a certain year, I beleave it was something like 2040. They want us all to be dead. But that is pretty much telling they lied.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by RatdogWillie on 11/23/13 at 09:40:16

Tune into the corporate "newspeak media” and you won’t see informed persons asking questions about the “official fairytale". Instead you get highly paid shills like Chris Matthews, Rob Lowe, Bill O’really(?) and so forth. They parrot the propaganda line without the pretense of objectivity, and come across as idiots that haven’t bothered to read or think. They are always certain to take a few moments to address the fact that there are people out there, that for some odd reason just don’t believe the governments’ gibberish. Of course they have to claim those who don’t believe the lies are defective. As bad as that is, what is worse are those who buy into the approved hooey lock stock and barrel without question.

I realize that most would people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair, but in the face of evidence to the contrary, one must acknowledge that the government under which they are ruled, is lying and corrupt. Then that person has to choose what he or she will do about it. To speak out in the face of a corrupt government entails risks. To choose to do nothing is to surrender of one's integrity and self image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker, but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by Midnightrider on 11/23/13 at 10:16:07

Good post Rat!

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/13 at 18:00:05

I call him Bill De'File me..

Title: Re: JFK ASSASSINATION
Post by pgambr on 11/23/13 at 18:10:04

I was wondering when you would start chiming in JOG. ;)