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Message started by savagebob on 11/15/13 at 01:16:37

Title: I don't like the indicators
Post by savagebob on 11/15/13 at 01:16:37

Maybe I'm just not used to them, all the bikes I've ridden have push button return indicators. With the savage I find it hard to tell when I've returned it and often end up with the opposite side going. Has anyone ever put a different indicator block on?

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by bobert_FSO on 11/15/13 at 06:04:32

Do you know that pushing the turn indicator button IN well cancel the signal and return the button to the center (off) position?  It makes operating the turn signals so much easier.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by verslagen1 on 11/15/13 at 07:04:30

my '96 had push button return, so find a control for a later year.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by Badass94Cad on 11/15/13 at 07:06:53

I believe '95 and older don't have the push return.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by ALfromN.H.  FSO on 11/15/13 at 12:11:56

my 2005 had it

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by bobert_FSO on 11/15/13 at 13:40:17

I didn't realize that the older Savages didn't have a push-return turn signal control.  I hope I didn't come off as condescending to anyone.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by savagebob on 11/15/13 at 15:41:33

Mine is an '88 model doesn't have push return.. can anyone confirm which years have that so I can try and find a replacement?

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by ZAR on 11/15/13 at 18:38:58


495B4C5B5D5F5855583A0 wrote:
Mine is an '88 model doesn't have push return.. can anyone confirm which years have that so I can try and find a replacement?


1996 and up for sure will get you the "push to cancel" feature.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by Badass94Cad on 11/16/13 at 16:10:36

And I have a '95 which does not have push to return, so...  ;)

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by SkyHigh on 11/16/13 at 23:30:25

The turn signals on my 2011 Boulevard S40 are reset by pressing the center button on the turn signal switch.

Also, on another note, I used to try to quickly reset the turn signal after making a turn, before shifting into the next higher gear coming out of the turn.  This is clumsy and possibly dangerous because the driver behind you is rightly expecting your bike to be picking up speed as it leaves the turn.  What I do now coming out of turn is accelerate smoothly and shift into the next higher gear first before resetting the turn signal.  The extra couple of seconds that the turn signal is on while you're shifting is not an embarrassment at all and actually keeps the attention of the car behind you as he also negotiates the turn.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by ZAR on 11/17/13 at 15:59:12


1A223001202E21490 wrote:
The turn signals on my 2011 Boulevard S40 are reset by pressing the center button on the turn signal switch.

Also, on another note, I used to try to quickly reset the turn signal after making a turn, before shifting into the next higher gear coming out of the turn.  This is clumsy and possibly dangerous because the driver behind you is rightly expecting your bike to be picking up speed as it leaves the turn.  What I do now coming out of turn is accelerate smoothly and shift into the next higher gear first before resetting the turn signal.  The extra couple of seconds that the turn signal is on while you're shifting is not an embarrassment at all and actually keeps the attention of the car behind you as he also negotiates the turn.


Good call Sky! I've been doing the same thing since my first scooter with signals. Works really well on the highways,where traffic coming up behind you may think you're already up to highway speed!

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by SkyHigh on 11/18/13 at 00:34:40


756E7D2F0 wrote:
[quote author=1A223001202E21490 link=1384506998/0#9 date=1384673425]The turn signals on my 2011 Boulevard S40 are reset by pressing the center button on the turn signal switch.

Also, on another note, I used to try to quickly reset the turn signal after making a turn, before shifting into the next higher gear coming out of the turn.  This is clumsy and possibly dangerous because the driver behind you is rightly expecting your bike to be picking up speed as it leaves the turn.  What I do now coming out of turn is accelerate smoothly and shift into the next higher gear first before resetting the turn signal.  The extra couple of seconds that the turn signal is on while you're shifting is not an embarrassment at all and actually keeps the attention of the car behind you as he also negotiates the turn.


Good call Sky! I've been doing the same thing since my first scooter with signals. Works really well on the highways,where traffic coming up behind you may think you're already up to highway speed!
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Thanks, ZAR!  I'm glad I mentioned that technique because I think it'll save a lot of accidents.   :)

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by savagebob on 11/18/13 at 16:59:44

Ok FYI I'm not looking for one if anyone has a spare:

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Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by old_rider on 11/18/13 at 23:00:03

I am curiouso' on the switch box myself (if I happen to buy an older model without the push button), has anyone tried or actually done the switch box change out to a newer one?

Is it just a simple push button spring to bring it back to center?

Could you rig a three position switch to do the same thing?

Could you simply pull the assembly apart and replace it with just the button/switch assy.?

Can anyone take a picture of the internal workings of both switches so we can see what the difference really is?

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by savagebob on 02/12/14 at 12:36:09

Not sure about that.

I have got a 2007 switch blog with the push button return and a pass button.

At first it looked like a direct swap with the loom, but last night I realised the big yellow plug is different. On my '88 there is a 3x3 pin square yellow plug, with two separate wires. On the 2007 it looks like these 2 separate wires have been incorporated into a larger, 2 row multi pin plug.

I'm going to probably have to cut off the newer plug and splice the wires into the old loom.  :-/

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by Tempted on 02/12/14 at 16:55:34

Snag one off of an old Honda. They look better in my opinion, plus they are way more comfortable to use. Push in to turn them off, and they also auto-return.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by PAPiekarski on 02/12/14 at 17:04:28

FYI: the newer savages have the push in to return

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by savagebob on 02/12/14 at 18:25:45

PAP: yes.. if you read back through the thread. Newer savages have it - the wiring loom is not a direct swap just for anyone thinking of doing that.

Title: Re: I don't like the indicators
Post by HondaLavis on 02/12/14 at 18:41:14

Well if you're going to splice it, at least do it right.  Go to a site like this: http://www.hvccycle.com/electrical-connectors.html and get a good set of connectors.  You might be able to find some at your local radioshack or autozone, too.  Try to reuse the old boot if you can.  If you can't find a connector set with enough pins, remember you can also get weather resistant spade/bullet connectors and just do some (or all) of them one at a time.

Whatever you do, do it right the first time.  ;)

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