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Message started by WD on 11/06/13 at 09:53:19

Title: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by WD on 11/06/13 at 09:53:19

http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/sport-heritage/sr400.aspx?view=media

Europe, of course.

Hope it comes here. As much as I loathe fuel injection, I've decided CV carbs are worse.

The 500 is also supposed to come back. Now if they bring the XS650 back from the dead, with good electrical designs, even fuel injected, I'd be on that so fast...

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/13 at 10:06:46

12 liter tank! Mazzash!  Thats bigger'n Ahrs!

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by Pine on 11/06/13 at 10:40:36

Not that its a bad thing.. kick start only.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by WD on 11/06/13 at 10:55:34

Kick only is another point in its favor with me. Less clutter, lighter weight, stronger case half, less wiring. All good things.

If I hadn't rehomed the kick only 1963 Honda CL72 already I would have fixed it up and gotten rid of the electric start only Savage.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/06/13 at 12:57:47

Bring 'em on baby ... more Retro Standards that is! You listening Suzuki??

Honda and Yamahog are on a roll with the new stuff lately ... TAKE NOTES SUZUKI!!!

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by mpescatori on 11/07/13 at 00:20:16

Nice bike  :)

400cc is an engine size dictated by insurance policies, the insurance classes are 125cc, 400cc and over, so a 450/500cc bike is pointless.

Horsepower figures are also important: 15hp max for 125ccs, 48hp max for 400ccs, and over.
BUT
if you have 48hp or less with a bigger bike, you still get a discount.

This makes the Savage relatively cheap, my 110hp BMW is three times as expensive to insure  :o

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by mpescatori on 11/07/13 at 00:35:38

I have just looked at the tech specs and I must say...

:P

I AM DISMAYED AND DISSAPPOINTED !

:-[

400cc and only 23hp ?

Those were the kind of figures I had on my 1971 Ducati 450 Scrambler,
and 200cc Vespas would smoke me at the lights !  :-X

I can't believe they can't eke a few more ponies out of that thumper...

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by WD on 11/07/13 at 07:42:44

Considering that a 1998 49 state legal Savage was rated at 28 according to the booklet that came with mine... the 400 has a decent output.

Power is likely down in order to meet German emissions standards.

A 250 "Ninjette" with a decent rider is going to walk all over a Savage with your garden variety rider, so I would expect this new 400 to do the same.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by MMRanch on 11/07/13 at 08:47:18

Thought I wanted one till I checked the weight ... 383.6 lbs. ....so it doin't weight any less than a savage , and not belt clean either.   Sure is a step-in-the-right-direction ,

Mabby

The American modle will be the 500cc !   ::)

I like Suzuki's  TU250 style too.  8-)  but not enough HP !


Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by LANCER on 11/07/13 at 11:00:06


2C3E2C3E33202F2229610 wrote:
Thought I wanted one till I checked the weight ... 383.6 lbs. ....so it doin't weight any less than a savage , and not belt clean either.   Sure is a step-in-the-right-direction ,

Mabby

The American modle will be the 500cc !   ::)

I like Suzuki's  TU250 style too.  8-)  but not enough HP !



Yep, that's what Suzuki should do to the LS650, and make it an "everyones" bike.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by pgambr on 11/07/13 at 12:19:53

WD, this was made for you.

EU only (again)

Kawasaki W800


Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by verslagen1 on 11/07/13 at 12:34:52


7265636F6070020 wrote:
WD, this was made for you.

EU only (again)

Kawasaki W800


what do we have to do to get that here?

go the local Kow dealer and say I'd like a W800?

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by Midnightrider on 11/07/13 at 12:45:39

The Euopeans get all the cool small bikes because of the price of gas over there. The Ninjette was the largest selling motorcycle in the world. Dont know if thats still true or not.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by pgambr on 11/07/13 at 13:06:49

You can get this one - 10K.

Honda CB1100

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/07/13 at 14:01:14

Droooooooool!! That W800 is delicious!!!! 8-)

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by Steve H on 11/07/13 at 14:37:37

I like the W800...why can't we get things like that?

The CB1100 sits nice.  It's tiny though.  Feels smaller than the Savage but heavier and wider.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by MMRanch on 11/07/13 at 19:59:33

W800 = 476 lbs.  "Is Good"   ;D

The Honda is also a 4 cylinder   :(            wide and heavy

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by WD on 11/08/13 at 06:32:31


3C277E7D7C7B79764F0 wrote:
I like the W800...why can't we get things like that?


We could, but they are too well built for our disposable society.

;D

You can get them stateside, it's just a pain in the butt. Gray market, you pay cash for it while on vacation, ride it around, crate it up and bring it home. Fairly common. We have a Kubota tractor that was brought in from Canada, the model is sold there, but doesn't meet OSHA specs in the USA. Great little tractor that you can't get a roll bar for.


Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by LANCER on 11/08/13 at 08:39:09

***  http://www.kawasaki.eu/W800SpecialEdition  



Dimensions (L x W x H) Ground Clearance Wheelbase Seat height
Fuel capacity Curb Mass
Performance
Maximum power Maximum torque
W800 / 2014
2,190 x 790 x 1,075 mm 125 mm 1,465 mm 790 mm
14 litres 217 kg
35 KW (48 PS) / 6,500 rpm 60 N.m (6.1 kgf-m) / 2,500 rpm
for more information visit: www.kawasaki.eu © 2013 Kawasaki Motors Europe N.V.
Fuel system
Ignition Starting Lubrication Engine type Displacement Bore x stroke Compression ratio Valve/Induction system
Transmission
Clutch Primary reduction ratio Gear ratios: 1st Gear ratios: 2nd Gear ratios: 3rd Gear ratios: 4th Gear ratios: 5th Final reduction ratio Transmission Final Drive
Frame
Frame type Rake/Trail Wheel travel, front Wheel travel, rear Tyre, front Tyre, rear Steering angle, left / right
Suspension
Suspension, front Suspension, rear
Brakes
Brakes, front Brakes, rear
Fuel injection: ř34 mm x 2 with sub-throttles Digital Electric
Forced lubrication, wet sump Air-cooled, 4-stroke V-Twin 773 cm3 77.0 x 83.0 mm
8.4:1 SOHC, 8 valves
Wet multi-disc, manual 2.095 (88/42) 2.353 (40/17) 1.591 (35/22)
1.240 (31/25) 1.000 (28/28) 0.852 (23/27) 2.467 (37/15) 5-speed, return Chain
Double-cradle, high-tensile steel 27° / 108 mm 130 mm 106 mm
100/90-19M/C (57H) 130/80-18M/C (66H) 37° / 37°
39 mm telescopic fork Twin shocks
Spring preload: 5-way
Type: Single 300 mm disc Caliper: Twin-piston Type: Drum, 160 mm


http://www.kawasaki.eu/Objects/44/w475h321_000003408E44455B.jpg




Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by Pine on 11/08/13 at 10:29:18


655047474C5154665443545250350 wrote:
Droooooooool!! That W800 is delicious!!!! 8-)

There was a used one for sale here a few months ago.. at the dealership ( trade in) for $3800. I was still dealing with leaky roofs and such.. but I was very much drooling over it. Someone here had to tell me what it was.

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/09/13 at 03:52:06


0A33343F2E35285A0 wrote:
[quote author=655047474C5154665443545250350 link=1383760399/0#14 date=1383861674]Droooooooool!! That W800 is delicious!!!! 8-)

There was a used one for sale here a few months ago.. at the dealership ( trade in) for $3800. I was still dealing with leaky roofs and such.. but I was very much drooling over it. Someone here had to tell me what it was. [/quote]

Seeing as you are in Mississippi, I suspect that the trade-in you saw at the dealership was a W650, which Kawi sold in North America for only a couple of years back in 2000/01 ... very much sought after Bike now-a-days! There are only 2 that I know of here in S.J. Nfld. ... both brought in from elsewhere in Canada in recent years from what I understand ... beautiful Bikes!

Title: Re: Yamaha SR400 is back...!
Post by WD on 11/09/13 at 08:28:49

Seeing as MS is home to a Navy base, a Naval shipyard, a Naval training facility, an Air Force Base, a HUGE Army/National Guard base, and a NASA/NOAA jointly operated port/shipyard/testing facility... the odds of finding a gray market W800 are actually pretty good.

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