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Title: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/13/13 at 13:13:13 Hello folks new to the site and savages,  I ve read the thread closest related to my issues but no answers found just bought the bike about a week ago paid 1500 cdn certified the day before pick up, Po demonstrated it worked as I have no liscence planned on refining skills and getting it in spring any ways first day I rode 2days after pick up works great next time stuck in gear can't put in neutral to start next day pops into neutral fires up great but acts like its only a 2 speed and had a lot of trouble stalling stalled about 10  times had to start once in gear with clutch in as always been told it wouldn't hurt now I can't no matter what get it into neutral tryed to start with clutch in and its trying to lurch forward so is this all clutch adjustment issues or is my transmission toast any help greatly appreciated , this is a huge impostion as I am working on budget

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by Serowbot on 10/13/13 at 19:21:16 Don't know what your experience is,... but, motorcycle tranny's don't like to shift when sitting still... (they work differently than cars)... A little lurch when starting a cold engine in gear is normal... And, check that the shift lever is adjusted to a good height for your foot...(it's adjustable)... (new riders have had shifting problems before, that related to bad lever position)... Transmission problems are very unusual on this bike... it's usually something simple... ;)...

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by WD on 10/14/13 at 03:43:33 Like a bent shift linkage... Making my latest one out of Harley cast offs. Should be around $7 in parts when it is all said and done.

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/13 at 07:41:36 Technique, yes, old clunky mechanical stuff requires it. Its not a computer, cant just poke a button. Stopped, in neutral, holding the clutch lever in allows the tranny guts to stop spinning, if 1st gear isnt lined up inside, its not going in gear. Let out on the clutch just a bit to ,ake things spin again, then itll clunk in & go,.If you stomped on it, then youve also got a bent shift rod now, probably,,

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by verslagen1 on 10/14/13 at 08:13:14 Good shifting technique for just about any occasion... apply pressure on the shifter in the direction you want to shift, pull the clutch in, rpm up or down and let it out.   and in most cases you've changed gears.  sometimes it takes a little more effort, sometimes less. resist the temptation to stomp on it.  you'll just bend stuff and make it worse. At a stop, it's the same thing, but don't let the clutch all the way out, just feather it, you'll feel the gear clunk, then repeat till you're in 1st.

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/13 at 08:20:16 Yea,, I rolled up to a stop in 4th once,, ONCE, .. Didnt take a sec to work down thru them. but BOY was I embarrassed..

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/14/13 at 09:43:41 thanks guys ill try all of these things and I know its not just a push button everything all works together and i consider it an art im far from perfect but hoping i didnt bend anything or nothing snapped off and jamming it up. as have been gently and when trying to get in gear always roll the bike forward and back its just stuck, sometimes i feel a little wiggle,having a more seasoned rider check it out tomorrow if neither of us can do anything then my local shop does discount work over winter, im fairly mechanically inclined but dont know if i should tackle this

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/13 at 09:54:29 Have you gently pressed down ( engine off) & rolled it?

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/14/13 at 13:38:17 Sure have tried rolling forward back wards second time this happened since purchase shifter will move very slightly but been stuck for a few days ,clutch is dragging slightly almost had it fired up will have to charge battery tonight as i should have done already hoping if I get her started in gear things will move better and let me get it moving will keep updated and hopefully have good news tomorrow

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/15/13 at 15:28:09 Well got it started today  started riding up road in hopes it would go into another gear with some movement and nothing i have a single speed bike, so i guess igot to take her apart , can I tackle slow and steady with basic experience or save head ache and go shop route

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by verslagen1 on 10/15/13 at 15:41:23 I would jack the rear off the ground, take the shifter arm and see if you can shift up and down while rotating the wheel by hand. check the shifter for any binding/hitting/rubbing anywhere. check the link for straightness. There was one or 2 guys that had there shifter mech's outta place inside the cover.

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/16/13 at 14:32:27 well everyone finally got some access to tools and some answers. Disconnected linkage from spline and where shift lever should have fallen loose it still wouldn't move was able to bend back so now I can shift from first to neutral to second hard into second still nothing beyond that but I'm buying a new shift lever, thanks for everyones help and advice I look forward to learning from everybody

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/20/13 at 13:26:13 if I have linkage removed from spline should gearshift lever not move freely ??  It was stuck solid as a rock lithium grease n lots of working at it honestly may have bent it back got it moving  I have first neutral and second but none past that . Since lever was disconnected from trans does this mean bent shifter? And is there anything internal that could make 3,4 just not work or likely all shifter related.

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by Serowbot on 10/20/13 at 13:38:33 Gonna' guess that it's all shifter related... Get that fixed before looking for more trouble... PS.. the shift linkage rod is reverse threaded on one end... Are you knew to motorcycle riding?...  (I ask because this may be technique related)...

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/20/13 at 14:02:56 fairly new like under 2000 km but this is my fourth bike , I thought of it being just me aswell but it was working great all gears parked 2 speeds next time I rode then stuck once parked  disconnect lever got it moving I've got 2 again also seasoned rider tested same issue going to order lever tomorrow will update once I know more just wanted to kinda ease my mind lol

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/22/13 at 13:13:31 Goodnews everyone I feel kind of dumb but learn from my mistakes  went to order new shift lever and they told me to clean first all of this caused by lack of lube

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/13 at 19:02:15 Huhh? What needed lube? The part that goes into the case is pretty much swimming in errll,,

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/27/13 at 10:51:56 the lever itself at pivot point have to take apart and properly clean and lube but its working perfect now after wd40 and working it back and fourth with lever disconnected from spline

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/28/13 at 10:39:04 WD 40 isnt a lube for long. It evaporates. The WD stands for Water Displacement,, YOu can spray that stuff into a distributor cap if its wet inside & the car will start again,,Use some real oil. Just gat some 3 in 1 & drizzle a few drops in,, or get a can of white lithium & squirt it in there. Those Zoom spout oilers are handy to have around, too,.

Title: Re: 1990 savage transmission issues Post by savageone on 10/29/13 at 10:34:30 thanks very much just wanted to get it moving bringing bike inside for winter and cleaning and greasing everything i can properly picked a real gem lol gotta remove flat black paint from entire engine as well

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