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Title: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 10/02/13 at 21:05:06 I have a coupon for this Motorcycle Lift. Price $300. Is it worth? http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-motorcycle-lift-68892-8495.html |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/13 at 21:26:04 If ya need a lift, seems to be well enough received.. http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php/topic,65634.0.html |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by HondaLavis on 10/02/13 at 22:04:46 Is there any particular reason you want a lift rather than a jack? This is 1/3 the price your looking at, and it's rated at 1500lbs. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326249_200326249 |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Serowbot on 10/02/13 at 22:12:24 You can make one of these in 20 minutes for 0 to $20 dollars... :-?... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbuOh9l1es[/media] |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/13 at 22:35:21 Hey, Row,, whats that block under the swingarm, just above the belt? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by HondaLavis on 10/02/13 at 23:54:46 Looks like part of the stock belt guard, just painted black and maybe a little trimmed off the bottom. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 10/03/13 at 03:15:10 I made a version of this wooden bench for almost nothing in parts. I had some scrap plywood and some used eyebolts to use for the tie down points. I adjusted the size a little bit to work with the plywood size I had, and I didn't want those side pieces sticking out so far on the front end as I new I would fall over them all the time. I used the wheel chock from my trailer. When you are not using it the plywood pieces just pull apart and stack in a small pile against the wall. The only bad part is that for the Savage....it takes 2 people and a ramp to get in on and off the bench. http://www.bbcracing.com/old/box/ |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 10/03/13 at 07:33:49 0324252F2A072A3D22384B0 wrote:
Somehow it doesn't look like it has enough stability to me :( |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 10/03/13 at 07:55:53 0D2A2B21240924332C36450 wrote:
I have both a jack....and the wooden bench that I made. The jack works well for most things and it is stable. For wheel changes, brake pads, shocks, etc. it works fine. When I was in a 4 month major renovation project and cutting and welding and moving and changing and wiring and painting and moving and adapting.....the bench brought the bike up at a better height for visibility and access. Sometimes I even used the jack on top of the bench when changing the forks or wheels. For general maintenance the jack works fine....for long term projects the bench is much better. With the bench however.....you still need some form of jack to get the wheels up off the ground on occassion......350 pound motorycles are hard to lift.....even one end at a time. So....is that $ 300 coupon you have something that is available online....is their a coupon code that we can use and you can share? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 10/03/13 at 08:06:56 4E75786F7E72696F747C716E1D0 wrote:
I see the advantage of having a jack. I just watched a video clip on YouTube comparing three jacks... I need "something" to make my bike higher I don't need to knee down or sit on garage floor while working - it's a little bit harder in my age and condition :) It's not a project. Just regular maintenance. I have to change air filter and fuel valve the following weekend. It would be much easier if I stand next to the bike. :) 4E75786F7E72696F747C716E1D0 wrote:
I got it in the flyer at home. I can scan it and post it here if it helps? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by verslagen1 on 10/03/13 at 08:10:53 6245424D230 wrote:
One fellow made a board that adapts the savage to it as the exhaust hangs down preventing access to both sides of the frame. Just remember, that thing don't fold up and store away into a tiny little box. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 10/03/13 at 08:25:01 23302726393432303B64550 wrote:
Agree. I was wrong... Thanks |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by old_rider on 10/03/13 at 11:16:00 Here is one from advanced auto http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_1500-lbs-motorcycle-atv-jack-autocraft_10014628-p?searchTerm=motorcycle+jack Sears has several, I bought the red one and use a board on the left side under the frame to level the bike, works fine for the savage. Although it wouldn't fit under my Harley (lowered 1") unless I drove up on a 2x4. http://www.sears.com/craftsman-motorcycle-atv-jack/p-00950190000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2 If you are worried about the stability of any type of motorcycle/atv jack, just put some pressure nuts into your cement floor and bolt it down, then strap your bike to the stand. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 10/03/13 at 11:17:59 Motorcycle Lift Comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJ2a0oOvCU |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by HondaLavis on 10/03/13 at 11:53:51 That one from advance auto looks practically identical to the one from northen tool. Both have loops on opposite sides that you can use to strap the bike to the jack. Then you just have to figure out how to keep the jack steady. I need to design a bike jack that uses a concept I've seen in aircraft jacks. The ones I use at work have spring loaded wheels, so when there is not any weight on the jack you can move it around, but when you use it to lift something, the springs are compressed and three other flat-footed support legs touch the ground. This gives you more stability when the vehicle is in the air. Yeah, do that and make it wider... |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by old_rider on 10/03/13 at 14:58:02 Almost all the jacks they have screw down feet to keep the jack from moving while working on the bike. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/03/13 at 16:35:36 I have a jack & that H-F lift. They both have their uses. I modified the lift with one of the chocks H-F sells & I ride up the ramp into my shed & right on the lift where it locks in place & is parked upright. Makes it simple to check the oil before backing it down the ramp & out the door. If I'm actually going to do any work I add my tie-downs that are already adjusted & in place, ready to use. My only real problem is I have to remove the w/s to raise it all the way in my shed. For me it's worth $300 but I work on other peoples bike too. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 10/04/13 at 06:37:43 I did some searching for a discount at HF. I found this 25% off coupon that would help. http://www.harborfreight.com/20off-coupon912-aff-17549.html?utm_source=cj&utm_medium=aff&utm_campaign=wts-coupons&hftref=cj |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Badass94Cad on 10/04/13 at 07:02:23 6D565B4C5D514A4C575F524D3E0 wrote:
Cannot be used for floor jacks. However, sometimes the person at the register will let them slide. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 10/04/13 at 07:43:50 5C7F7A7F6D6D272A5D7F7A1E0 wrote:
Cannot be used for floor jacks. However, sometimes the person at the register will let them slide.[/quote] I was thinking about this being used for a lift.....but glad you pointed out about the jack exclusion. The price they have listed fof the lift is normally priced $ 699.99 but they have a sale price of $ 429 shown. I did see that people are selling the coupons they cut from their sale fliers on eBay! |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by diamond jim on 10/04/13 at 08:21:30 1235343E3B163B2C33295A0 wrote:
I've read that a single company makes the same jack for maybe a dozen different stores. So the HF, Northern Tool, Autozone, etc, jacks are all the same just painted different colors. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/13 at 09:13:26 a m/c lift may not be termed a "floor jack" ask before hand, play stupid, just ask if you can use it for the purchase. You can always bail out of the purchase if they change their mind at the cash register. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/13 at 10:06:50 Naah,, tell them you want it,, let them drag one up to the front from out of the back,, THEN drop the coupon on them,, hopefully there will be a good line behind you,,if the cashier doesnt wanna letya slide, request a manager.. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by old_rider on 10/05/13 at 09:00:55 Got this in the email box today A Harbor Freight lift that looks like a J&S http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-Capacity-ATVMotorcycle-Lift-60536.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiNTUyNTQ4MzciLCJza3UiOiI2MDUzNiIsImlzIjoiNzQuOTkiLCJwcm9kdWN0X2lk%0D%0AIjoiOTM3NyJ9%0D%0A&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4013b&utm_source=1021 |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by verslagen1 on 10/05/13 at 09:32:30 I've been told that the craptman jacks are made in china and are not repairable. Hense, look over the jack and see if the hydraulic bottle jack can be swapped. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/13 at 09:42:43 Why is Made in China not repairable? I have a 50 jack from HF.. It died, I fixed it,,it was no worse than fixing the Craftsman jack Ive had for 27 years. AS long as the jack isnt welded into the frame & you can access it, then the o-rings otta be accessible. What IS tough these days is finding anyone who works on jacks.. Labor MUST cost enough to live on,, & the cost of living is too high to make repairing a cheap jack cost effective.. Look to see if you can buy a replacement jack, just in case you cant fix yours one day,,& with HF stuff, one day can be the day after the warranty is gone,, |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by ToesNose on 10/05/13 at 16:36:42 I built one from left over lumber and a piece of pipe like Serows, it works great, it's easy to use and is completely stable. :D |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 10/06/13 at 06:54:14 726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
A few years ago I rebuilt a Craftsman floor jack, I got the repair kit from Sears. A friend of mine recently got a Craftsman 2 Ton aluminum jack that was made in China, and when the seal leaked he found out he could not get parts. A web search revealed that this is a common problem on these jacks and the owners really get screwed. The warranty is for a year and one fellow used his 5 times in that period...and the seal started leaking and the jack was then junk as it cannot be repaired. I am not sure if this is some new liability/lawyer related thing, or if they just don't want to sell you parts anymore. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/13 at 09:19:12 O-Rings is O rings..I got mine from a hydraulic shop. Same place I got the rebuild kits for the hydraulic cylinders on the back hoe.. HF doesnt sell parts,, except the plastic filters that go in the gravity paint guns. Anything else ya buy, if ya need "parts" yer outta luck,, Sears? Yea,, my dual action sander I paid about $80.00 for 30+ years ago? YOu can buy all the metal parts, but you cant buy the rubber one that makes the valve.. Took me almost 3 hours to build one out of a piece of tire,., I find solutions to problems when lots of people stop, believing theyve exhausted all possibilities,, I used to run a warehouse. People would come in asking for things they knew I didnt sell,, One guy came in with some off the wall Need,, He told me that someone had told him that if you ever need anything, Go to that place & ask him,, cuz if he doesnt have it, he will know where to find it,I rarely had anyone ask me for something that I couldnt help them, |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by old_rider on 10/07/13 at 15:22:52 Yeah its a shame, when K-Mart bought out sears, the craftsman brand changed over to china made stuff. My adopted dad used to only buy craftsman because it was made in the USA, I got into the habit and recently bought their new "bolt-on" drill that has interchangeable heads for different tools, Black and Decker came out with them like 2 months later and look exactly the same. To me its not just a quality question.... if we could keep the factories here it would be better for our economy...but that's a discussion for the other forum. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by v-pilot on 10/07/13 at 22:46:55 I made a stand as Dave did but made it hinge so no ramp is needed...one person operation Pic from cell phone at angle to get it in |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by v-pilot on 10/07/13 at 22:48:57 with bike on |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Demin on 10/08/13 at 05:56:19 I have three of the HF lifts in my shop.Also have a couple jacks.If you get a magazine called The Horse Back Street Choppers,there is always a HF ad in them with a coupon for the lift for $299.00.I've had a full dressed HD on mine.Once you get on,you'll never want to work on the ground again. ;) http://p1.bikepics.com/2013/08/25/bikepics-2591554-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Serowbot on 10/08/13 at 08:49:58 V,... that is one slick design.... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by ToesNose on 10/08/13 at 17:58:13 Dig it V-Pilot.......really dig it 8-) |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by v-pilot on 10/08/13 at 20:52:48 Thanks, was just an idea in my head and 3hrs in the back yard. The deck is 17" high so working while standing or with a stool is perfect. The pivot works great. Just push it up till it tips, wheel in the chock and latch the front for safety. I've got some sticky back no slip stuff on now so I can hop on and roll off while sitting on the bike. Also had to switch to 2 x 6's on the sides to handle my liter bikes...fat pigs :-/ |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/02/13 at 21:55:38 Talking abut a jack stability... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bqn2KpKWfg :) Also, can't find any review about this jack http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/lifts-stands/1500-lb-lightweight-aluminum-motorcycle-lift-60636.html |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/10/13 at 22:01:56 I didn't buy the Harbor Freight lift table because I just can't find place to keep it. :( So I bought yesterday Big Red/Torin Jack http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326249_200326249 Not best deal but I have to fix my bike as soon as possible. And reviews are ok. And, when I tried to put the jack under my bike I found that the bottom of the frame is to "short" for the jack's fork?!? It would sit on the fork by curved parts. I think that's not correct way to lift a bike. I tried to use part marked with the red arrows (see pics) but it doesn't have the same level as the bottom of the frame. I put small piece of a wood and I was able to lift the bike in the air but it was soooo shaky and wiggly... Is there something I'm missing? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/10/13 at 22:09:14 2nd image here |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Dave on 11/11/13 at 06:31:14 Yes, the bottom of the Savage is lumpy and it needs something to adapt the jack to it. I am able to use my jack by just placing a 1'X2" piece of wood under one frame rail. Gyrobob made and apapter for his RYCA and you can see it on page 22 of his thread. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304722902/315 You need to make a plate that fits on top of your jack....and has the right lumps to lift the bike squarely. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/11/13 at 07:15:09 Funny, nobody mentioned it before I bought the jack... :( So, can I use this part (I don't know the word, marked with red arrow) to lift my bike or I can't? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by verslagen1 on 11/11/13 at 08:05:28 Main issue is getting the frame to rest squarely on the jack as the header is in the way. Gyr made a board with all the cutouts and a nest for a floor jack so it would balance w/out shifting the jack about. Your m/c jack shouldn't be that difficult. I would set the jack forward of that bracket with both rails on the frame. That will be the most stable. If you're having trouble with the header, find a 16" long board a little wider than the frame, about 1" thick, put it under the frame and it should clear the header. put it just behind that tab that hangs down in the front. BTW... I use that bracket to lift the rear end only with a floor jack. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/11/13 at 08:12:11 4F5C4B4A55585E5C5708390 wrote:
What are you referring to with "header"? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by verslagen1 on 11/11/13 at 08:18:14 4F686F600E0 wrote:
chrome 2" diameter pipe between the exhaust port and muffler. |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/11/13 at 08:30:30 766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
You mean this? |
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Title: Re: Motorcycle Lift Post by Afan on 11/11/13 at 09:40:43 Ok. Here you can see very well (this is not my photo) thet the bottom of the frame is "curved" and the flat part is to short to use it on the jack's fork. I would need a board. But even w/o a board I have hard time to put the fork below the frame :( http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Motorcycle/RYCA%20CS-1%20LS650%20S40%20Savage/RYCArollers28Largea.jpg~original |
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