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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> An honest question..... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1379179915 Message started by raydawg on 09/14/13 at 10:31:55 |
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Title: An honest question..... Post by raydawg on 09/14/13 at 10:31:55 Let me preface it with an observation with the hope of diffusing argument, allowing reflecting instead :-* I have spent many minutes, hours, days, weeks, years, in the clutches of those who dictate our thoughts and actions. I experienced temporal satisfaction at times when it appeared I was in the majority, or more aptly put, I was member with the largest herd of sheep..... Somehow I guess I found security and justification (in my thoughts and actions) for staking a claim with the majority.... I felt I deserved the right to "enlighten" the minority (ignorant). Heck, it was my duty.... If in fact I only "really" did it to feel better about myself, self justification, that was mere icing on the cake and readily dismissed for the higher calling of enlightening the ill informed (lost), or so I thought..... I pondered why my high of superiority was fleeting, never lasting, but always requiring the energy of another fight (argument) to sustain it. Why did it leave me exhausted and at odds with the world.....why was peace (of mind) escaping me? I have since found my answers..... :) My question to you, if you care to answer (or even think about to yourself). Upon your death, will the world/society have truly benefited by your life, did you leave a mark of hope, or grab what you thought you wanted? |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Midnightrider on 09/14/13 at 11:00:49 The world needs change. We've been at war my whole lifetime. I'm tired of seein pictures of bodybags and kids with no arms and legs. I'm tired of our corrupt government. I'm tired of the middle east. I have a somewhat decent life for someone who is handicapped. I could do nothing and just enjoy the rest of my life but I gotta try to do something to make it better for my kids and grandkids. That's just me. They're gonna have it a lot worse if I and several others don't stand up and try to correct the things that need correcting. Excellent Post Raydawg.. Read whats at the bottom of all my post. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Serowbot on 09/14/13 at 12:04:00 We're all just dust in the wind.... If you think you're anything more,... yer' jus' blowin' smoke... All the angst and passion over these issues are wasted energy... Vote... then yer' done... that's all you'll ever do beyond your physical existence... Beyond that, just be a good person, help your fellow man... Nothing,... absolutely nothing said or done in this forum will do anything but waft hot air... ... and I'm at peace with that... ;D... |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by raydawg on 09/14/13 at 12:38:50 Appreciate your reply guys, thank you :) |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Midnightrider on 09/14/13 at 12:40:06 Bot you're too passive. I want to leave this world trying to make things better for my next 2 generations. Maybe that's it , you don't have a family, that makes a big difference. I debate here only if its to let you guys know the truth about how I feel. I be as nice to everyone as I can. I call and fax my congressmen. I've even written Obama and got a reply, I'm sure it was from one of his aides I think its selfish to set back and do nothing, leaving the next generation in one hell of a mess. Dust in the Wind, hell of a song. Read whats at the bottom of all my post. I believe it. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/13 at 16:22:01 Whether or not you can measure the change ytou made, you made a difference. YOu can add to the bad or stand against it. Whatever tiny positive you added was a benefit to mankind,much more so than had you NOT worked to achieve making a difference in a positive way, Youll never even know ALL of the change you caused. We sometimes only plant a seed & those people are gone from our lives,, but what we said stays with them,they see other things that cause them to think, etc, etc,, & Voila,, they are not the same,, |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by oldNslow on 09/14/13 at 17:12:04 " IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING" attributed to Alexander Hamilton and/or Malcom X Unlikely pair, but it's still true IMO. Sometimes what you stand for isn't even as important as honestly and courageously standing for it. And we are only"dust in the wind" once we are dead. Till then life is about making choices and accepting the consequences of those choices, whatever they happen to be. Sitting on the fence because what we do may not matter to the universe at large is just wasting the short time we have alloted to us. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/13 at 21:31:01 According to Smith Wigglesworth, ( Yes, thats areal name. He was areal man.) A TRagedy is spending 2 days on the same spiritual plane. He healed many. Look him up. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by arteacher on 09/15/13 at 04:43:50 When I was a young boy I read an SF story about time travel, where tourists are lead back to pre-human earth. They are restricted to specific pathways and are instructed to never never leave it or touch anything. Someone sees a butterfly and captures it to take home. When they get back to the present the whole world is changed, because of the removal of that butterfly. That got me to thinking that every action we take has an effect on the future, and we have no way of knowing what that effect will be. So I have tried to keep my footprint as small as is practicably possible, and to teach others (my kids, my grandkids, and my students) to do the same. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Pine on 09/15/13 at 11:29:02 As a father.. I would presume that mission of my species to procreate..while the world my take no note, I hope my survivors my look upon life as adding to thiers in some way. I have attempted to be honorable with items from generations before to be kept and passed on. I have achieved nothing that would give worldly, nationally, or even local acclaim. I have participed some in politics, as a delegate and volunteer. Though I have never run for office. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by RatdogWillie on 09/15/13 at 19:03:16 1D39343E393738242239343522500 wrote:
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by WebsterMark on 09/16/13 at 05:48:28 Something made you loose the desire to change other people's minds because you realized, despite your fights and victories, you felt hollow at the end of the day, needing another conquest to "fill" you up again, right? Was this insight some version of "Don't sweat the small stiff. PS: its all small stuff!" ? |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by WebsterMark on 09/16/13 at 05:49:25 We're all just dust in the wind.... If you think you're anything more,... yer' jus' blowin' smoke... darn, that's sad. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Paraquat on 09/16/13 at 06:16:35 "On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero." Even longer timeline it will be as if we never existed at all, and everything that we have done is inconsequential. --Steve |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by WebsterMark on 09/16/13 at 07:14:01 "On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero." another rule from Fight Club?... ha ha I would amend that to say "on a long enough time line, the survival rate for our human bodies drop to zero" I refuse to believe the consciousness I feel is simply the result of a series of bio-chemical electrical reactions inside a skull that evolved from a monkey. We are created beings, separate and above all other life forms existing in this dimension, on this planet. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by raydawg on 09/16/13 at 08:58:59 5C6E69787F6E79466A79600B0 wrote:
Who you directing this to? |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Paraquat on 09/16/13 at 09:20:43 4F7D7A6B6C7D6A55796A73180 wrote:
The source doesn't make it any less true. I disagree with the latter as well. We are hairless apes who got lucky. --Steve |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by Dane Allen on 09/16/13 at 09:37:11 1726352636322633470 wrote:
The source doesn't make it any less true. I disagree with the latter as well. We are hairless apes who got lucky. --Steve[/quote] Sitting at a job that I stress over to cover a too high mortgage for too little property and supporting a mate and two offspring while worring near constant about the future said offsporing are to inherit. Too many liberal whackos bitching about everything under the sun to support their corruption and a near totalitarian government that views my "clinging bitterly to my rights" as the problem for everything. I am not feeling all that lucky ;D |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by WebsterMark on 09/16/13 at 10:16:42 Who you directing this to? You Ray, just wondering what the epiphany was. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by WebsterMark on 09/16/13 at 10:19:47 The source doesn't make it any less true. I disagree with the latter as well. We are hairless apes who got lucky. I agree para, I just like the quote in the movie. Nope, you are not a lucky ape. You are a billion times greater than an ape. Now, that statement doesn't diminish the ape, that elevates you. |
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Title: Re: An honest question..... Post by raydawg on 09/16/13 at 11:05:20 6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
I have found its much easier to work on my own plank first, with hopes of helping others when I remove it..... |
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