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Message started by ylwf3vr on 09/08/13 at 22:49:00

Title: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/08/13 at 22:49:00

I was never a fan of the bobber look in the past. But seeing some pictures on this site and looking on YouTube, I'm kinda liking it a little bit. I'd like to venture out and try it but have no clue where to start.

Saw the "Blue Collar Bobber" site and the prices are hefty. But they seem to offer everything, including DVD for someone like me who needs step by step directions.

So how hard is it convert this bike? Keep in mind, I'm not very good with mechanical stuff.  :-[

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by Serowbot on 09/08/13 at 23:10:06

"Bobbing" is minimalist...  Getting rid of what ain't the heart of the beast...

Start by losing some things... (this part is free)...
Dump the chrome head covers,... dump the belt guard,... smaller (Harley shorty) muffler... dump chrome sissy's, pillion, windshield, saddlebags... chrome doo-dads...
Take all those stickers off yer' bike...
Then,.. the biggies,... (more work and cost)...  smaller rear fender...  smaller seat (ouch)...
... optional... lower the rear of the bike with shorter rear shocks.. (this is more fashion than weight saving)....
Remove the front fender... (you will get wet)...

My bobber is a scrambler... it have minimal weight, but I won't give up comfort... so I added taller shocks and cushioned the seat...

study the bobbers, and see what appeals... all stages are optional...
Just do what you find appealing...
;) ;)...

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/08/13 at 23:32:34


283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
"Bobbing" is minimalist...  Getting rid of what ain't the heart of the beast...

Start by losing some things... (this part is free)...
Dump the chrome head covers,... dump the belt guard,... smaller (Harley shorty) muffler... dump chrome sissy's, pillion, windshield, saddlebags... chrome doo-dads...
Take all those stickers off yer' bike...
Then,.. the biggies,... (more work and cost)...  smaller rear fender...  smaller seat (ouch)...
... optional... lower the rear of the bike with shorter rear shocks.. (this is more fashion than weight saving)....
Remove the front fender... (you will get wet)...

My bobber is a scrambler... it have minimal weight, but I won't give up comfort... so I added taller shocks and cushioned the seat...

study the bobbers, and see what appeals... all stages are optional...
Just do what you find appealing...
;) ;)...


Thanks! Ill do the free ones first lol where are you finding the parts for your projects? I've only seen the bluecollarbobber.com

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/08/13 at 23:35:18

All I'm going for is smaller rear fender, smaller seat, license plate, and changing out the lights. Maybe later move onto the handle bar and mirrors..

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by stinger on 09/09/13 at 00:11:54

I think the Suzuki stock 650 is one of the best looking bikes on the market. (except for that stupid looking sissy bar and pad) Before you bob it, remember your taking a cruiser and turning into a around town bike good for only  short day trips. Forget about taking it camping or rides that last more than a few hours. No more windshields or bags to store stuff in. No more taking the wife or girlfriend or buddy on a ride with you.  To each their own I guess. Maybe if you were to hang it on a wall as art then it would be OK but when you start removing belt guards and items like removing and shortening fenders that are designed for safety  and to keep you dry in case your caught in a rain  storm then that is foolish. The mechanic at the dealer I bought my bike at told me the chrome head covers are there for a reason. To keep rain from accumulating in the spark plug hole and stalling the bike at freeway speeds. Like I said tho, to each their own

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by Serowbot on 09/09/13 at 00:30:32


7C7B6661686A7D0F0 wrote:
The mechanic at the dealer I bought my bike at told me the chrome head covers are there for a reason. To keep rain from accumulating in the spark plug hole and stalling the bike at freeway speeds. Like I said tho, to each their own

Was he wearing a clown hat when he said that?... ;D...

... or maybe it's a bucket to collect that rainwater...???... ;D...

It's a bit of shiny chrome, to make people buy a bike... :P...

Stinger... am I right? or am I right...  ... :-?...

...(PSST... if it's for shooing rain, why is it chrome, and why is it on both sides?)...
;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by WD on 09/09/13 at 03:19:19

I've got a stainless steel XS650 rear fender section I'm not going to use. Clearing out a bunch of extra parts, so... quick and cheap way to get an easy to mount rear fender. I've also got a cast aluminum light and plate bracket, old Brit stuff I don't need. You would need to order a Lucas tail light for it. PM me if you want them.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 08:46:05


10170A0D040611630 wrote:
I think the Suzuki stock 650 is one of the best looking bikes on the market. (except for that stupid looking sissy bar and pad) Before you bob it, remember your taking a cruiser and turning into a around town bike good for only  short day trips. Forget about taking it camping or rides that last more than a few hours. No more windshields or bags to store stuff in. No more taking the wife or girlfriend or buddy on a ride with you.  To each their own I guess. Maybe if you were to hang it on a wall as art then it would be OK but when you start removing belt guards and items like removing and shortening fenders that are designed for safety  and to keep you dry in case your caught in a rain  storm then that is foolish. The mechanic at the dealer I bought my bike at told me the chrome head covers are there for a reason. To keep rain from accumulating in the spark plug hole and stalling the bike at freeway speeds. Like I said tho, to each their own


Thanks for your insight! Good to get a different prospective on things.  I will not be doing any long riding, it's just to and from work - 25 mins.  We have our cars to do family things.. the savage is just for me  ;D but I'll def think about it!

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 08:48:00


1C0F4B0 wrote:
I've got a stainless steel XS650 rear fender section I'm not going to use. Clearing out a bunch of extra parts, so... quick and cheap way to get an easy to mount rear fender. I've also got a cast aluminum light and plate bracket, old Brit stuff I don't need. You would need to order a Lucas tail light for it. PM me if you want them.


PM SENT

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by busterboy on 09/09/13 at 12:19:21

I used the BCB kit and was very pleased with the quality of the products and the DVD.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by busterboy on 09/09/13 at 12:20:43

The bars are not BCB, they are from Paughco and the mirrors are Arlen Ness

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 13:13:57


776066617067777A6C150 wrote:
I used the BCB kit and was very pleased with the quality of the products and the DVD.


Looks purdy nice.. how hard was the job?

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by busterboy on 09/09/13 at 13:29:02

Wasnt bad at all, I did most of it over one weekend.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by savagebob on 09/09/13 at 14:58:05

I'm 3/4 of the way through bobbing my savage having never played with bikes before and I'm a computer geek.

Being in NZ I couldn't afford the full BCB kit. I bought some stuff off them; the drag bars, a plain seat (no brackets) and mirrors.

They make it really easy for you and if you were to get their whole kit and follow their instructions then it would be walk in the park. It's designed for you to be able to do it with minimal spanner knowledge.

That said, there are certainly areas where they have done things a certain  way to make it easy, but that is not necessarily the best way. For me that is the way the seat mounts; I think it's too high and the way they do the rear fender makes it easy to install but limits your tyre to a 140/80 size.

I mounted my seat straight onto the frame (the rear has shocks I don't think you need a sprung seat) and I made my own rear fender & mounts.
Bought mini turn-signals off ebay for cheap. Lots of matte black paint :D

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by WD on 09/09/13 at 15:54:27


4B5E4554014440320 wrote:
[quote author=1C0F4B0 link=1378705740/0#6 date=1378721959]I've got a stainless steel XS650 rear fender section I'm not going to use. Clearing out a bunch of extra parts, so... quick and cheap way to get an easy to mount rear fender. I've also got a cast aluminum light and plate bracket, old Brit stuff I don't need. You would need to order a Lucas tail light for it. PM me if you want them.


PM SENT[/quote]

Never arrived.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 16:05:20

Sent again.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 16:06:36


3F2D3A2D2B292E232E4C0 wrote:
I'm 3/4 of the way through bobbing my savage having never played with bikes before and I'm a computer geek.

Being in NZ I couldn't afford the full BCB kit. I bought some stuff off them; the drag bars, a plain seat (no brackets) and mirrors.

They make it really easy for you and if you were to get their whole kit and follow their instructions then it would be walk in the park. It's designed for you to be able to do it with minimal spanner knowledge.

That said, there are certainly areas where they have done things a certain  way to make it easy, but that is not necessarily the best way. For me that is the way the seat mounts; I think it's too high and the way they do the rear fender makes it easy to install but limits your tyre to a 140/80 size.

I mounted my seat straight onto the frame (the rear has shocks I don't think you need a sprung seat) and I made my own rear fender & mounts.
Bought mini turn-signals off ebay for cheap. Lots of matte black paint :D


Thanks for the input!

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 16:12:19


5546020 wrote:
[quote author=4B5E4554014440320 link=1378705740/0#8 date=1378741680][quote author=1C0F4B0 link=1378705740/0#6 date=1378721959]I've got a stainless steel XS650 rear fender section I'm not going to use. Clearing out a bunch of extra parts, so... quick and cheap way to get an easy to mount rear fender. I've also got a cast aluminum light and plate bracket, old Brit stuff I don't need. You would need to order a Lucas tail light for it. PM me if you want them.


PM SENT[/quote]

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Message keeps disappearing. You can email me at ylwf3vr@gmail.com when you have time.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/09/13 at 22:46:36

Not sure if my PMs are going thru..

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by verslagen1 on 09/09/13 at 22:55:26


7E6B7061347175070 wrote:
Not sure if my PMs are going thru..

thru what?   :o

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by stinger on 09/10/13 at 01:08:53

By the way, I am not in any way against bobbers. I tool a beautiful 57 Pan head apart, stuck the engine in a 41 Knucklehead rigid frame with extended forks  and built a chopper. All I was saying is when you alter any bike it changes the dynamics of that bike and what it was made for. Some of the nicest bikes in here are bobbers and it shows individuality in people. Just look at the Ryca!  And your pretty much right Serowbot!  Shiny does sell for sure. People buy $20,000 Harle s and then spend another $3,000 on more chrome parts. Does nothing to make the bike a better machine. I was just stating what the mechanic told me

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/10/13 at 12:43:31


2C3F2829363B3D3F346B5A0 wrote:
[quote author=7E6B7061347175070 link=1378705740/15#18 date=1378791996]Not sure if my PMs are going thru..

thru what?   :o[/quote]

Tried sending PM to WD, and I don't think it's getting to them.  It's not showing up on my Outbox

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by WD on 09/10/13 at 16:17:10

I got the resent version jut fine. Sometimes the PM function gets flaked, this is a very old forum format. Just one of its quirks.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by Charon - FSO on 09/10/13 at 16:24:28

Remember too that when you customize a bike (or car, for that matter) you will not get your "investment" back when you sell. Usually customizing costs you twice. Once, when you spend the money and time to do it, and again when you try to sell. In short, the resale value drops by approximately what it would cost to put the bike back to stock.

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/10/13 at 19:21:44

Point taken.. thanks everyone!  Well.. maybe a lesser mod.. like changing out my 2 seater... seat into single seat?  Is that hard to do?

Not to steal the pic but thank you to "thesnakelady" picture I saw while I was going through the site..

Something like this

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/10/13 at 19:22:28

And maybe changing out the handlebars.. are those two fairly extensive mods?

Title: Re: Bobber?
Post by ylwf3vr on 09/10/13 at 19:32:20

1.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davidson-1-Dimpled-Knurled-Handlebar-V-Rod-Sportster-Springer-/200960309269?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eca2af815&vxp=mtr

2.  http://www.sideroadcycles.com/AmericanMotorcycles/Handlebars/More_HD/A2MiniApe.html

3.  http://www.sideroadcycles.com/AmericanMotorcycles/Handlebars/Classic_Bends/TriumphType.html

Thoughts?

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