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Title: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/25/13 at 17:51:33 ...... it can be a major pain in the butt. First, you got to go buy a new hard drive with enough capacity to hold all your stuff. For me, my Windows was 160 gig or higher for me, so the drive I bought before was a 250 gig because that's the smallest that was on sale at Best Buy that could hold my Windows and all my various windows stuff. Windows always takes about 4-6 hours of steady work to reload the OS, reload all the software packages, finding the drivers for this and that, do all the configuring of this and that. Then you gotta update all the anti-virus and all the various maintenance softwares (and wait forever while all the MS updates slowly trickle through the ethernet cable in installation order so the system can actually rebuild itself in the proper sequence so it actually works right) When you hit the snag (like a old CD that doesn't play any more) it can get more difficult and even more expensive, since you gotta go pay for some MS stuff again since your old stuff was 2+ generations back and they won't upgrade from that to there so now you have to buy a full modern copy and all the rest of that happy MS BS. Windows and Office can be a real pain in the butt. ================= Linux however, isn't a pain in the butt. Hard drive won't read right any more, even the low level diagnostics from the disk manufacturer can't get it to respond well enough to pass the tests and although Linux CAN get it to read some it is still as slow as molasses as only half the heads seem to be working at any given time. It ain't right and it ain't gonna get any better. Give it up, it's dead. Jest take out the old 250 gig hard drive, slap in a 10+ year old 120 gig drive that had some encoded compressed backup stuff on it from a previous work life (useless now, the company doesn't even exist any more) and let Linux overwrite the entire drive. Stick in the now completely obsolete and "unsupported" Linux Mint 9 CD from many moons ago into the DVD/CD drive, close the drive, hit the power button to cold boot the machine. Disk reads fine, software loads, you pick "Install Linux Mint 9" and then you have to answer 7 simple "choose the radio button" questions and within 10 minutes Linux Mint 9 is finished loading completely, OS and ALL the office software & all the stuff you ever used with Mint 9, all loaded off of ONE CD. Never had to chase a driver once, never had to update a single piece of software (all done automatically as the stuff was installed). Stick a jump drive in the USB slot that you used to keep your Preferences and Bookmarks from Firefox and a copy of all your personal data, copy in all the stuff into your personal folder and let Firefox go find its past history. Done. It took longer to open up the old white box and change out the hard drive than it did to reload all the software. 1-2 hrs total ..... with Windows you'd still be dicking with getting the OS loaded and configured and driver'd. :) ..... did I ever mentioned I LIKE Linux Mint? Really, I spent less than 2 hours and zero dollars to get the whole thing back and the old used 120 gig hard drive is really huge compared to the simple needs of the Mint 9 system and it seems to be even faster than it used to be on the old sick hard drive. Now, why did my old drive die? I had a multi-boot arrangement with Windows as boot sector and something ate the boot sector and banged the hell out of the drive heads -- something very unloverly root kit-ish that attacks windows boot sectors no doubt. So, I don't have a dual boot machine any more, straight 100% Mint 9 now and unless somebody takes the time to write something specifically against Mint 9, I'm good for "from now on" until "forever", whichever comes first. And that's fine by me, I like my old Linux Mint white box jest fine. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by LANCER on 08/25/13 at 18:59:38 So does your lovely wife know about this OTHER relationship you have with this "Lanky Mint" chicky ? ? :D |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/25/13 at 21:09:49 K, got one for ya, wife and I just bought new laptops, and I had to do the redo-everything windows crap....lost some pics too, frikin' windows. I've since loaded only one game onto the redone old laptop, which is now functioning nicely since I dumped all of the five years worth of un-needed backups and pac's windows loads up. So where do I get me a Linux operating system? I once had a dual boot setup on an ol' computer I built so I could play games on my bootup and office work on the secondary. I'd like to see what Linux could do and to see if my games (which some are) are supported by Linux. I want to make my old laptop my traveling companion due to its small size (13,5" X 10"). Plus i'll have the time now that i'm home sitting and doing nothing because of the back being toast. Maybe i'll actually learn something new! |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/25/13 at 23:09:33 If you want games, then you want STEAM. All of the very modern Ubuntu derivatives support STEAM right out of the box. No other distro family does this nearly as well, so stay with the Ubuntu family. There are a lot of Ubuntu derivatives out there right now, Linux Mint is the most popular followed by Ubuntu itself then after that there are a whole crowd of much smaller derivatives like Puppy and Peppermint. Dual booting is what I would always recommend to a new Linux user, you still need Windows as a fall back position to keep you from getting frustrated with stuff. Your frustration comes from 20+ years of Windows and the habits that come along with that, Linux isn't Windows and that tends to frustrate new people sometimes as by habit they want to keep doing the same cumbersome things that Windows forced them to do for all those years. Me, I had a heck of a time letting go of hard drive / anti-virus maintenance, just couldn't believe you really didn't have to do it any more. Felt like I was running around naked or something ..... ;) The simpler, better forum supported distros are the ones you want right off the bat. Read the newbie forums of the ones you are looking at and try to find one that has a habit of always answering their newbie's stupid questions fairly quickly. That's gonna be you, so pick a friendly one. ================= Every time the LTS (long term supported) distro time comes around (every 2-3 years) I buy a short pack of a dozen DVDs and go distro shopping, downloading and trying out some of the better looking distros -- looking for the one that will be better than the now obsolete Linux Mint 9. Ain't found it yet .... still looking though. This upcoming April 2014 is LTS time. ========================== Old, You just shelled out what, over $600 for two new laptops -- load Mint or whatever on one of the old ones and be shocked/incredulous that the old one runs a lot faster than your newer more powerful Windows laptops .... she's always a shocker to the Linux newbie that Linux is really THAT much smaller and tighter coded that an old single core set up will burn a new dual core Windows set up. (especially when they get some MS "age corruption" on them ;) ). |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/25/13 at 23:19:54 6568676A6C7B3B3E090 wrote:
She knows about Mint, she uses my machine when hers craps up. Mine always works ..... She also knows that when she retires she will have 4 Windows laptops for her exclusive personal use, but when they crap out they will become Linux machines as I won't be paying for Win anything any more. Microsoft has picked my pocket for my entire computing lifetime, I think it is about time for them to keep their greedy little hands to themselves. ;) |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Pine on 08/26/13 at 11:01:42 KInda the same thing over here.. I bought a used netbook on ebay.. I loved my old ACER Netbook, and so I bought another. Well the SSD quit booting.. note sure what happend the SSD was not dead.. the bios was not bad... I have NO idea what did happen. BUt I had two more HDDs also from the this netbook.. and guess what.. they waould start then claim the OS borked and quit. ENOUGH.. I went looking for a nice tiny OS .. and found Puppy Linux.. which I had heard of years ago. Down loaded the ISO and burned to CD.. then booted and installed to the SSD.. can you say BLAZING... A tiny RAM loading OS booting from a SSD... YEAH baby. Now the desktop is kinda cartoonish.. and the programs are cira 1990's looking but functional. and the only thing I do on it is browse the net anyway. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/26/13 at 11:29:02 Grab onto your shorts because Puppy is going to start basing off Ubuntu simply to get Steam game support. Lots of the little distros are switching over to Ubuntu as a base to get native Steam support. You think gaming is neat now, try Steam on a machine that also loads Steam & the entire OS into RAM memory like a Puppy machine does. FAST. This also is one of the things that makes a Linux very hard for Windows to beat because any time any of the Linuxes come up with something neat and new -- within a year all of them have it. There is no problem borrowing code from each other, it is expected. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Pine on 08/26/13 at 13:14:08 Yep I have Precise Puppy, which they said used Ubunto binaries. So can install any unbuto program? Like steam? |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/26/13 at 16:54:55 Just ask on the Puppy forums they will know all the current facts about it. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by LostArtist on 08/26/13 at 17:07:54 does adobe creative suite run on linux yet?? |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/26/13 at 21:04:59 So I go to a Linux forum and download and burn a cd of a smaller Linux version using my windows??? hows that gonna work? |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/27/13 at 05:49:55 Lost ..... Yes, you can run Photoshop on Linux ..... (the odds of you being able to do this are pretty slim as it seems to be an expert sorta thing to do. Me, I'd simply use Gimp as Gimp can do just about anything, but yeah I know, it isn't what you are used to using, you are a professional Photoshop user who is deeply deeply embedded in the program). http://ubuntuhacksblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/how-to-install-adobe-photoshop-on-linux/ ============== Old ..... go here and read up about the small distros, specifically looking for easy to use features and then take a look at their forums for friendliness and quick answers. http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux/which-linux-distros-are-the-best You are looking to get your feet wet, these "easy do" distros are not the ones you will likely wind up with as later on you will want more than they supply -- the bigger distros with all the 10s will be where you wind up eventually. The easy do's show you that you CAN do it, then you start the endless search for the distro you like the best. I have gotten to the point I can live just fine with Mint 9, and I only go searching again when the LTS versions come out every 2-3 years. I have noted that mainstream Linux is getting bigger and fatter. In today's terms my old Mint 9 would be considered a "light weight distro" as it requires very little on the machine front and it runs about like a Peppermint for speed. Puppy has resisted "bloatitus" over the years and Puppy is still pretty much Puppy (it was the one that I used to get my feet wet way back in the day). Puppy was based out of Australia back then and I had me a Aussie housewife who pretty much ran the Puppy newbie forum back then -- she's the one who taught me Linux if anybody did. She called me "dearie" whenever I didn't catch what she was trying to say, she' also tell me I was being thick again. And I was, I never bought a Linux book of any kind and I refused to use the terminal unless it was a cut and paste solution (to her I was being positively retarded). So I rotated up to Linux Mint that didn't require a Linux book or typing code into a terminal. And I am still thick and retarded to the real Linux people ..... |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Pine on 08/27/13 at 06:26:49 60636B7D666B6A7D0F0 wrote:
Just throwing it out there... You can download puppylinux.. as a ISO file.. this is an image of a CD. You then burn that image ( not copy) to a CD.. The resulting CD is bootable and thus you can boot from it and try an alternative OS and the applications that come with it... if you don't like it .. pull out the CD and re-boot. No harm done and Windoze never knows. If you DO like it.. re-boot from the CD.. and run the install to the hard drive. Then install a the "boot loader" .. remove the CD.. poof you have a new OS. Ok.. so its not that easy.. but nearly. I did all this a netbook, that otherwise was trashed... I could not get windows to load on it. So for me I had zero loss to try. IS it slick ... no are there unlimited programs that you can just dumbly download.. not like windows... Can I browse the web,, here, youtube and email.. yep. Will I give up Windows on my main desktop PC... hell no! :P |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/27/13 at 06:45:53 & Mr Nottageek said What is the difference between burning an image & copying to? Is it like the difference between a rheostat & variable resistor? Cuz I NEVER figgered that out either.. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/27/13 at 10:16:58 When you copy something, it is just a copy. When you "burn an ISO image" you are laying down executable code in a fashion that makes the DVD both readable, executable and bootable. You run the code through a program that takes the compressed input code, unpacks it, expands it and lays it down correctly complete with a boot sector and file structure. The code you lay down is much larger than the compressed source file. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Pine on 08/27/13 at 10:51:41 7A5951535059595047350 wrote:
YUP.. what he said... Two funny stories I use to work in a library ( university) .. Stanford University came up with a neat application.. they then built that inside a unix OS... Any library could download the ISO file and burn it to a CD ( didn't even need a DVD... then pop that ISO bootable CD into a server with some blank hard drives. The OS would boot.. right into the application. Write a small config file the HDD and then do its thing. Two wonderful parts to this.. if the program or OS needed to be upgraded .. just replace the CD with a new ISO CD... but the best part ( besides being easy enough for a lay librarian to do) was that it was 100% hack proof. There was no way to write anything to the CD ... no way to damage the OS... if someone did take it off line... re-boot! The data on the HDD was nothing valuable.. and the only way to get to it was through the program ( on CD) and the OS ( on the CD) .. pretty safe! Then years later the IT department ( which had given up on UNIX) and was a WINDOWS only shop... demanded we start giving them our servers for them to move onto card based servers. Yeah the first one we gave them was the one Stanford. They spent 2 days looking at it.. scratched their head and their butt and gave up. It bought us 4 years of peace till they took over just this year. http://www.lockss.org/ ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/27/13 at 22:35:15 4C6F6765666F6F6671030 wrote:
AHHH! I had a CD with , IIRC, Ubuntu on it,, guy told me I could go anywhere & never get a virus, cuz my hard drive wasnt involved, the computer was using the cd as a hard drive & OS,, something bad happened to it,, bummer,, |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 09:22:26 Ok, just for kicks, I have several older PC's sitting around (Pentium III's or IV's) so i'm going to experiment. I'm going to dump a whole hard drive and download Ubuntu or Linux Mint. Are they free? what site should I go to? are all of them safe? lol, remember I'm using windows to burn the ISO so i'm hoping there are no mad Linux scientist that HATE windblows soo badly that they will toast my computer. OF, thanks for the link, it is very informative, but i'm gonna have to find a Linux for dummies or Ubuntu for dummies site also, meanwhile i'm gonna go mad scientist on one or two PC's and maybe my little laptop! ;D |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 12:18:23 Well, didn't turn out like I wanted.... I downloaded Linux Mint 15 to a 32gig flash drive, but the old computer didn't have a usb boot capability. So I commenced to burn the .iso file to a dvd and tried to install that way, didn't work, it told me my supposed 2gighz computer was only an i686 and not compatible with linux mint 15. Soooo, I stuck the disk my old laptop and bingo! I'm using firefox in Linux Mint 15 mode! ;D Playing around to see how to run it is a bit of a pain tho...the cdrom has to search and load alot, but its ok, I think i'll do a double check on this laptop and see if there is anything I really need and just load Mint up anyway and see whats out there with it. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 12:55:15 Ok, decided since I looked around and found I could somehow load my favorite game using "wine?" I can play it using Linux mint 15, so I've split my HD into two 56 gig sections and will load on boot, neat that it just asks that and doesn't just erase all data without your permission. I believe I read somewhere that I can import stuff from the windows side to the Linux side and use it there also...wwhhheeeee this sounds fun! and easy! If all goes well, I might just dedicate the little laptop to go completely Linux and learn to use it like it needs to be used...I've already discovered it can read and save a document in windows format...go figure.... Ok done for now..... gonna listen to the dvd drive go ticketytick and watch the schooling on Linux . |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/28/13 at 13:48:28 Yup, I found that Open Office can save a file in ANY format except the very latest and greatest most modern Word format (MS does that on purpose to make folks HAVE to upgrade). In a lot of cases Open Office will figure out the new Word format quicker than MS will figure out their free translation app, so that a lot of folks habitually use Open Office as a file format translator in most big company offices. Before long you will discover you can do just about everything in Linux and you quit having to go back & forth between Mint and Windows so much any more. The next time MS wants to pick your pocket for an upgrade is when it will really strike home to you. "Heck NO !!!" you sez -- and you mean really it. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 15:00:21 Got the game working with mint 15, so I am happy sooo far, now I know I could use it for gaming if I wanted to when vacationing. Now to open a few files or send myself a few files via email, that's yet another thing to setup, not a bad system all in all either, very user friendly, just gotta wrap your mind around a different perspective of use. Can hardly believe all this is free OS stuff....makes you wonder |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Steve H on 08/28/13 at 15:39:51 I've used Linux off and on for years. I am running xp on this box and will not 'upgrade' to any of the newer stuff. If and when xp stops working, I will just install a good linux distro and be done with it. Question for those in the know...is there a decent functioning flash out there yet? I do watch a lot of video on the computer. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/28/13 at 17:41:40 Which browser do you use? Flash is browser specific and there are several browsers that do a very good job with flash in Linux. Firefox used to do a good job with flash but now it's beginning to get to the point they really don't want to use flash all if they can avoid it. Flash is not being supported well any more in Android with Linux not far behind it. HTML 5 is slowly replacing flash ..... very slowly. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 17:58:25 Video off the net or video on dvd? LM15 comes with a couple of viewers loaded already, i'll throw a dvd in and see what pops up. Firefox is doing ok with youtube vids, no break what so ever...fluid. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 18:45:37 Well a Blue Ray disc don't work, but a standard dvd movie will work. Thats with the VLC player that came with Linux Mint 15. Just popped in the disc, started VLC media player and hit play, the movie started no problem, cept it was in "wide" mode didn't matter tho, was still high def. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/28/13 at 19:00:04 Sounds like he likes that there Minty freshness .... The LTS versions have more attention to detail and fine polish, because they are the flagship for the next 5 years. Wait until you see the Mint 17 ..... |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/28/13 at 20:10:36 I really liked the fact that it fit on one dvd+r disc and you could use it without loading it up on your system, just hit esc as your system boots up and tell it to boot from cd, then tell it to run in command mode. You can use it to surf and watch videos and such without worrying about loading it up, kinda kewl. I made a back-up for our new laptops and it took 5 dvd's! and took like 3hrs to do, I downloaded LM15, burned it, stuck it in my little computer and played for an hour, then loaded it in 14 min. When I initially reworked my little laptop, it took me 2hrs just to get it running and another hour to get the settings right..and that was with windows vista. LM15 formatted itself and the windows drive into 2 separate partitions and loaded all in 14 minutes and it was ready to go! :) |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/29/13 at 09:16:04 Well, I updated to Mint 15 MATE 64 bit as I could see they finally pulled their thumbs out of their butts over Firefox since the last LTS came out. (Mint wouldn't use the Firefox name or icon because the French dudes were feuding with Firefox a bit over not getting paid per hit or some such nonsense). Mate is Gnome with future tools, but not the official Gnome 3.x exactly as the Gome folks went off into the starry starry night and nobody chose to follow them into that great nebulous starry beyond except the folks at Red Hat. As a matter of fact the only Gnome developer people that are left are the ones who actually WORK at Red Hat, so Red Hat has inherited their very own personal desktop now, built the way their folks like it ..... good for them. So you could say Gnome actually forked 3 ways, the offical "Red Hat" Gnome 3.xx, Gnome as Mate and Gnome as Cinnamon. Cinnamon is soon going to cut all ties with the official old gnome base as of the next update and become a total inhouse thing with the Mint folks. Lots of work there, but apparently Mint is popular enough to support its own desktop development team ...... good for them. Mate is also becoming completely independent, but will still keep whatever good bits of old Gnomishness that are still considered worth while. Mate is actually used by 3-4 distros now and it seems to be the surviving as an independent open source project "child of Gnome" that will actually go forward into the future as an old style open source project. You can't really spit on the differences between Mate and Cinnamon right now as Linux Mint is still polishing both up to be about equal in all things, but eventually they will pick just one and roll forward with it. I liked Gnome 2.0 and I'm very sorry they picked a team leader that led them off the cliff and thy were stupid enough to go follow him there. (even though Torvalds and others told them it was stupid and a total disaster ....) The ones that balked right at the crumbly edge of things now work on the Mate Project. ::) |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/29/13 at 15:25:02 Had my first boot errors today...didn't understand a bit of it...but it did say "hit the f key to fix" so I did that, and rebooted (3rd time) and it booted fine. So far i'm liking it, using it instead of windows 8 this week, to see if I can live with out windows.. I suppose I could get a book and learn to write linux code, after all I was pretty good at the dos stuff. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/30/13 at 08:32:31 You will find that DOS, Unix and Linux all have some basic things that all use the same sorts of designations. Linux command line is quite complete since it continued the development of Unix while DOS aborted early on and went to windows. Linux handles "slowly failing hard drives" fairly well, simply dodging the bad areas and continuing to work far past the error levels that Windows can tolerate. If your boot sector goes south of course, all bets are off. If she can't boot, she can't run. I am attempting to fix my wife's Vista laptop (hard drive attacked by something again) -- and I have set my white box up as a test station for Linux and LibreOffice so she can kick the tires of going over to Linux. So far she admits that Windows isn't reliable in the University world she lives in, and she hates all the restrictions IT puts on the machinery simply to try to keep it working. She admits that LibreOffice is "useable" and the controls are very similar to Office 2003 (her last drop menu and task bar Office type interface). But she is very leery of losing her Windows based MS Office and is very leery of using anything else as some of her compatriots have tried to go Mac in the past and gotten "no-get-over" issues with Word for Mac --- translation and formatting issues with complex reports and papers, etc. Some of these formatting and translation issues resulted in grade mark downs and student protests over "My paper didn't have that improper indent in it, see, here is my printed copy ..." So I am sitting here again, battling to get her Vista machine back for the umpteenth time. >:( "I can't take a Linux laptop to work. Computer Services would have a whole litter of kittens and be emailing my department head if they ever even saw it running in my office ....." |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/13 at 03:25:13 What does it take to get a Vista Machine running again after the latest malware attack? It was a boot sector attack and an erase/rewrite attack on critical OS files .... a nasty one. Hold F8 during booting, enter into the relatively unadvertised Vista deep DOS level repair program, go into advanced options, go into disk options, trigger a low level reformat tool. (chkdsk has gotten SO much more ornate over the years, it actually calls home to MS using DOS over the internet now to get a replacment file for what it finds has been corrupted on the machine, since the on-machine backup files were likely rewritten by the attack also). Got it running again and next day when I shut it down MS Update had downloaded an entire replacment set of fresh OS root system files AND a completely retuned & redone MS Security Essentials. 568 separate OS low level systems files and a completely changed more powerful MS anti-crapware. It was a small service pack. Something tells me I wasn't the only person hit with this exploit, if MS had to do up an entire update service package to handle it. Anyway, wife's big Vista laptop is back in full service again ..... after having to set up her backup XP machine for full use and seeing all the MS only stuff she requires I have to say (again) that there are some jobs that really do totally lock people into MS products and they cannot EVER EVER leave MS products until after they retire. University profs are some of those people. (she looks at my old Linux machine whistfully since it is easy to use, it always runs and it simply doesn't have all that complicated BS on it at all. She knows this because she uses it when her stuff gets sick and I am busy setting up a replacement machine for her) Hours spent to get her Vista laptop running again (spread over 4 days) 7.5 hours of my active keyboard time (not counting all the hours of MS download time at night and the dead time while the machine was repeatedly grinding through the low level checks). Microsoft SUX ----- their software is buggy and still has lots of security holes in it and there are too too many teenage programmers are out there learning how to crapify it. Keeping MS machines running SUX ----- and it can be expensive too. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by old_rider on 08/31/13 at 07:48:24 I'm starting to agree with you more and more OF. Like I said, it took me HOURs to reload all the MS stuff on the little laptop, and I had to hook it up physically with the modem to download all the updates and THEN get it to load the drivers for the wireless stuff (it is vista also). I'm on the big win8 laptop this morning comparing speeds and such, ok, so the drivers in Linux aren't designed to run an MS based game, but there are games I could run if I wanted to, guys gotta have some fun no? I'm seriously thinking of clearing out the little laptop and running just Linux, but first I'm going to see about transferring files from the MS side to the Linux side to see how easy it will be to run, first i'm going to download some songs and picks and maybe a few videos.....hoping to learn as much as I can, then maybe one day i'll finish up with just running Linux from the "blackscreen" as my wife calls it. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Steve H on 08/31/13 at 08:18:39 O_R, Just mount the Windows partition. You can access it just like any other then. You'll have full, on demand access to anything that's there. |
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Title: Re: When a hard drive goes bad .... Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/13 at 14:25:31 Old, take a big jump drive and copy all your songs over to it. Use your MS antivirus check on the drive (in Windows) and make sure the jump drive is clean, Then boot Linux and see if the songs will play off the jump drive directly. If so, then let the Mint have the whole drive on the small laptop and when it is done copy all your songs off the jump drive onto the Linux formatted and cleaned drive so they will live for a nice long time. My issue with any MS formatted partitions of a shared drive is that THOSE MS NTFS PARTITIONS are the ones that get searched out and whacked by the latest greatest nasty virus. Moving your song files over to a Linux formatted drive kind of keeps the virus from getting to them by being "inexplicable" to the MS based virus. This is the main risk of a dual boot machine, the base boot sector is still MS based and is completely at risk to being attacked by a MS virus. When the boot section goes down, so does the machine. Still, most new Linux users still need a MS machine around to fall back on until they get better at Linux -- but you have multiple machines to fill that bill at this time. ==================== Always remember that a Linux machine can host a MS virus and pass it on to other machines by email, disk, jump drive, etc. Just because it cannot affect you directly does not mean you can't transfer it to your MS machines by jump drive, etc. My wife gets most of her illnesses "attached" to emails and to physically carried student papers that she plugs in with the student's personal jump drive when they visit her in her office to get help. The student population has all sorts of crap running around it all the time and they give their coughs and colds to her right along with their computer viruses ..... |
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