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Message started by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 14:54:10

Title: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 14:54:10

I am looking to dump my 96 electric start 650 for a kicker....what will bolt up to my frame and what would be preferred?

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by Gyrobob on 08/25/13 at 15:06:40


25342334393A222C560 wrote:
I am looking to dump my 96 electric start 650 for a kicker....what will bolt up to my frame and what would be preferred?


What's a kicker?

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by mjs3790225 on 08/25/13 at 15:13:11

Kickstart for the Savage? No off the shelf solution. Invent and impress!  ;)

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 15:19:35


60677E3E3A343D3F3F380D0 wrote:
Kickstart for the Savage? No off the shelf solution. Invent and impress!  ;)

Is there an earlier year that had a kicker? This is my first Suzuki build.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobert_FSO on 08/25/13 at 15:21:23

You can't eliminate the battery.  The Savage has an alternator and an electronic ignition module, not a magneto and points.  

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 15:26:52


4C414C4B5C5A2E0 wrote:
You can't eliminate the battery.  The Savage has an alternator and an electronic ignition module, not a magneto and points.  

Oh but you can.. If you have a kicker you can buy a little regulator for 20 bucks at any auto parts store.. I cant remember what it is called but you see them all the time on old mopeds and older bikes that are kickstart and still have headlights and other electrical parts

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by Gyrobob on 08/25/13 at 15:41:03


65746374797A626C160 wrote:
[quote author=4C414C4B5C5A2E0 link=1377467650/0#4 date=1377469283]You can't eliminate the battery.  The Savage has an alternator and an electronic ignition module, not a magneto and points.  

Oh but you can.. If you have a kicker you can buy a little regulator for 20 bucks at any auto parts store.. I cant remember what it is called but you see them all the time on old mopeds and older bikes that are kickstart and still have headlights and other electrical parts[/quote]

oh but you can't.  What you are talking about is a magneto.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 15:51:33

I am not talking about getting spark to the cylinder I am talking about a little regulator that holds a little bit of charge in it while your bike is running. NOT A MAGNETO or POINTS....... I am not talking ignition.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by WD on 08/25/13 at 16:31:31

You mean a capacitor? Or the voltage regulator off a Kohler engine, which works great for bikes with points and originally shipped with selenium plate voltage regulators. On a bike like the Savage, unfortunately, they aren't worth 2 cents.

Pull the Savage lump, mod the frame for a DR engine swap. Or a GN400/450. Even an early GS 400-500 twin.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 16:34:08

You are getting me WD..... That's it...dunno why so dumb founded today THX for the input. So go with a dr huh? would it be easier to just start off with a different frame then?

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by Serowbot on 08/25/13 at 16:45:45

If yer' swapping the motor and the frame.... yer' using a different bike...
Yes,.. that's the easiest way to get a kick start...

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by bobbed on 08/25/13 at 16:53:47

I don't really wanna swap to a new bike I wanna do a Suzuki build just looking for an easy way to throw a kicker in.....sounds like there isn't one... I can stay with electric start I just am looking to consolidate the wiring down to tail stop start and maybe turn. I thought by going with a kicker would be the easiest way to get rid of all that extra wiring. guess not will just have to scratch my head and invent some stuff I guess thx for the input

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by WD on 08/25/13 at 17:00:56

I've been on Savage forums since 1998, and can't recall anybody successfully adding a kicker, converting to a proper generator, going with a magneto, or making points conversions that actually work.

My Savage is primarily yard art. I'm in the home stretch, maybe, of a rework that started in 2006... I cut all the "excess" wires out this afternoon to force myself to finish it up. Everything else, beside the Versy tensioner, is done or almost done.

My current "give a crap" project is a kick only, one coil/condensor/point set per cylinder 1963 Honda Scrambler turned TT race bike, that I put the lights back on. Will be tearing the engine down after harvest season to see how bad a hit my wallet is going to take. Bike's locked up tighter than a nun's knees...  ::)

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by Charon - FSO on 08/26/13 at 13:05:43

Funny - when I see the word "kicker" I think of an outboard motor.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by greenmonster on 08/26/13 at 13:52:22

I think of sub woofers.

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by ALfromN.H.  FSO on 08/26/13 at 15:44:06

Here you go. Watch the guy sitting on the savage.

https://vimeo.com/42231732

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by mjs3790225 on 08/26/13 at 15:54:14

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by jcstokes on 08/26/13 at 16:44:42

You see the guy's leg move, but I would ask whether there hasn't been a little sound editing or dubbing?

Title: Re: Kicker
Post by mjs3790225 on 08/26/13 at 21:08:21

Magic movie shenanigans.

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