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Message started by ylwf3vr on 08/23/13 at 23:42:27

Title: Newb question
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/23/13 at 23:42:27

So in quest to learn and work on this bike, I'd thought I would start with the carbs. I've never had a carbureted bike so it's a new for me.

Is there a post that shows the components to the carb, how to clean it and maintain it?

Any other suggestions?

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by jcstokes on 08/24/13 at 02:54:56

Go to the tech documents section, go to table of contents with links and then scroll to fuel/exhaust.

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by bobert_FSO on 08/24/13 at 05:29:31

If ride your bike regularly and don't have a bunch of dirt/rust in your gas tank, you generally will not have any carb problems, thus no needed carb maintenance.  A carb will operate trouble-free for years, unless you get a vacuum leak or the rare event where a float gets a hole and sinks.

Even in winter, I can usually hop out for a (sometimes cold) ride about every couple of weeks.  During the rest of the year, if the temps are above 50F, my bike gets ridden at least every few days.  I never had to use fuel stabilizers and I don't own a battery tender.  

The majority of carb problems come when a bike sits around too much.  My son bought a Kaw KZ400 from a guy.  He said he had to take it to a shop every year to get the carbs cleaned.  It turns out he would get the bike running, ride it a few times and then it would sit for another year.

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/24/13 at 19:50:23

Hm I see. Maybe I can move to changing that cam chain adjuster when I get it. Do I have to buy a new gasket? I read thru the instruction post... Seems like it may be too advanced for me?  :-[

Should I even try it or take it to a shop yet again? I think someone said it only took an hour but I know shop will say 3-4.

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by bobert_FSO on 08/24/13 at 21:29:50

If you just change to a versy-modified adjuster, the job is easy.  There is no need to mess with the cam chain itself or with the chain guides or the engine top end.  I think almost anyone should be able to perform it. It is a simple job of removing the clutch cover and replacing the adjuster.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1338489898/0

You might be able to re-use the existing gasket if was installed without sealant.  I was able to re-use mine.  However, it would be a good idea to have a new gasket available just in case.

I have a gasket left over after selling my Savage.  If you will
PM me with your address, I'll mail it to you.

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/24/13 at 22:05:59

:-/ ill take a stab at it. (Oh pm sent btw). Do I have to buy the "gasket maker" sealant?

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by Digger on 08/25/13 at 17:34:17


35203B2A7F3A3E4C0 wrote:
....Do I have to buy the "gasket maker" sealant?


My personal experience here has been to use this stuff:


http://www.permatex.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/81878.jpg (http://www.permatex.com/products-2/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail)


BUT only where the wires exit the engine (at the rear of the clutch cover) and on the sealing washers that are called for on some of the clutch cover bolts.  Other than that, the Suzuki gasket seems to do the job well.....

IHTH!

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by WD on 08/25/13 at 17:53:45

Sealing washers? What sealing washers? Seriously, my 98 has no washers on any of the clutch cover or stator cover bolts. They are just ugly little chrome bolts that need to be replaced with stainless versions.

Only been apart once, and there were no washers, bolts were pulled and went right into cardboard in the order removed... Could be why it leaks like a T120 Bonneville or an AMF era Harley, and always has...  :-/

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by Digger on 08/25/13 at 18:37:08


0B185C0 wrote:
Sealing washers? What sealing washers?.....



From The Savage Companion Photo CD (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1199986392):


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/ClutchCoverSealingWashersE.jpeg


IHTH!

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by bobert_FSO on 08/25/13 at 20:01:59

Hope to get a gasket out to ylwf3vr on Monday.

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/26/13 at 04:29:12


4A474A4D5A5C280 wrote:
Hope to get a gasket out to ylwf3vr on Monday.

Very much appreciated!!

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/26/13 at 04:29:43

Oh I can already see myself messing this up lol  ::)

Title: Re: Newb question
Post by ToesNose on 08/27/13 at 04:37:56

Don't stress, just take your time and lay out everything you remove so that you know where it goes when you put it back together. A cardboard template like WD mentioned is an easy way to organize your bolts and such and is great incase someone walks through them!!!  Yea rebuilding the engine on a 72' Chevelle back in the 80's and my dog walked through my bolts laid out on the floor, I've always used a cardboard template since LOL   :D

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