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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Is my bike running right?? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1377210579 Message started by Jen on 08/22/13 at 15:29:39 |
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Title: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 08/22/13 at 15:29:39 I am 5'5", 120 lb, just bought an '06 S40 with 3700 miles. I rode it for the first time today. I also have an '06 1200 Sportster that is also new to me. I bought the S40 because the Harley just felt too heavy to learn on as a first bike. Anyway, the Suzuki feels like the MSF bikes. I don't know if this is because the Harley is 1200 cc and the Savage is 650 cc, but I feel like I'm riding a Honda Rebel. Do you guys think there is something up with the Suzuki or just that it will feel that less powerful compared to the Harley? Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Dodgeman on 08/22/13 at 15:50:25 We just bought an 06 Suzuki S-40 for my wife, and she is learning again, how to ride. She hasn't ridden one for a lot of years. Her very first ride was a 100cc Kawasaki. The S-40 fits her really good, and her feet are able to reach the ground just as they should. I taught her the first time, and am doing so again. She is doing better each time she rides the bike. She really likes how it rides and handles, with the throttle being her only concern. It is a quick acceleration if you turn the throttle just a bit too much. I feel the S-40 is not too big of a bike to learn how to ride. Yes the 1200 Harley will be heavier and more powerful than the 650 S-40 Suzuki!!! |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by WD on 08/22/13 at 16:07:11 Next to a 1200, the S40 feels like a toy. Displacement differences, different power curves, lower seat, lighter overall... Learn on the Savage. Get good with it, it can/will do everything the Sporty can do it's just a bit slower (and more nimble). |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Boofer on 08/22/13 at 18:54:35 Jen, I going to let the remark about the S40 feeling like a Rebel slide because you are new here and--well--I'm a nice guy. ;D Glad you got a Savage/S40. Unless you are into the biker chick, Harley thing you may sell the Harley after you get better at riding. The Rebel has about 233cc iirc. That's down about, um let's see, subtract from 650 carry the one, well it's a bunch, okay? In the real everyday world of riding to work or day touring the S40 has alot more power and speed on tap and can cruise all day at 4 lane speeds without a strain. The Rebel has about 18hp, I think, so physical size are about the only comparison you can make. And I have a close friend who is selling his Honda Magna and going back to a Fat Bob, because he misses the sound and the vibration. So whatever you do, I hope you stay safe and enjoy whatever you decide to ride. And a Savage can nearly be compared heads up with a Harley 883 and its 45 hp with 1/4 mile numbers and top end versus cost and reliability. Good riding. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 08/22/13 at 19:23:02 I'm not trying to disparage the S40 by comparing it to a Rebel, but that is how mine feels. I'm assuming there may be something wrong with it. The bike did a lot of sitting, brakes squeal, and there doesn't feel like there's much power. Shifting from first to second results in the bike running rough initially, which could be me needing to shift better or the bike. I'm a lot happier with the S40 vs the Harley. Yes, I do like Harleys and the whole "biker chick" thing :) |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by jcstokes on 08/22/13 at 19:37:30 If you are still on the original front brake pads they will squeal. It might pay to either check them yourself or have them checked if you don't like the mechanical side of it. If you fell there is insufficient power the bike should get to about 55 mph in second and 75 mph in third. If you can get to 70 mph in third you should be ok |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by old_rider on 08/22/13 at 20:02:05 Jen, just explain what your bike sounds and feels like, there will be tons of replies on what to check or what you need to do to make it better. If you know a hammer from a screwdriver and can twist a bolt in the right direction there is a possibility you can fix it yourself with a little pointing in the right direction from the savage guru's here. I have been turning wrenches most of my life and got my wife's 04' savage running hot! I can twist the throttle and be at 60 mph in about a half a block easy. I rode it from the panhandle of florida all the way to north Carolina to show the guys how well they coached me, cause the bike runs great now. If you think you could work on your bike, do it.... the savage is a very easy motorcycle to wrench on, unlike the sportster which is fuel injected and has more electronics to fool you into thinking you know whats wrong with it. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 08/22/13 at 20:16:20 My year Sportster has a carb. The bike is running rough, shifts rough into gear (which could be my inexperience with it) and it has the brake issue. I went to Suzuki and the guy said it needs like $300 of carb work because it was sitting. I haven't had the bike inspected or looked at yet. I don't feel comfortable riding it to the shop yet based on how rough it has been riding. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by old_rider on 08/22/13 at 20:29:54 Sounds like you need to learn how to work on your savage. Most small motorcycle shops around here charge about $65 an hour plus parts. I think I spent maybe two and a half hours on this carb to get it running good, of course if yours had been sitting for a couple years you might need to take it apart to clean it up a bit, and that will take a few hours. The first thing I did to the wife's savage was to change out the fuel shut-off valve (petcock) and plug up the vacuum on the right side of the carb, then pull the tank off and remove the top of the carb and put in two small plastic washers in place of the thick one that is there. I then adjusted the air/fuel screw till the bike ran a bit better and there was no pop on shut down. Oh and the mechanic I had look it over, told me the same thing....that it needed tons of carb work. There are some step by step posts around here somewhere, i'm sure a few of the guys that know whats up will let you see the links to them soon. This bike is really simple to fix, once you learn about the few things that need to be addressed to make it run right. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by sesamestreet on 08/22/13 at 20:44:21 7F7666617A7E7066150 wrote:
really? maybe it's cause i'm a heavier guy, or my idle speed is too high or something, because i don't think it works that way for me. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by verslagen1 on 08/22/13 at 20:50:52 0D2A262B2A3433222229470 wrote:
oof dah howyadoinsweetheart ;D an hours worth of work and 4 more staring at it from a crossed the room in my easy chair while it's boiling in the cleaner. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by verslagen1 on 08/22/13 at 21:01:45 797060677C787660130 wrote:
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wow, you really want to tell to whined it out like that? redline in 2nd? |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by jcstokes on 08/22/13 at 21:08:29 That's what the book says it will do Verslagen, maybe 45 in second to be on the safe side. After all we don't have rev counters as stock. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by gizzo on 08/23/13 at 19:52:26 If you decide to do the carb strip thing (got a few minutes spare), this stuff is amazing for cleaning it up. http://www.amazon.com/Yamalube-Carburetor-Cleaner-Dip-oz/dp/B002GU4SPA |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by PhantomII on 08/24/13 at 23:47:33 I used an old crock pot filled it with anti-freeze set it on low and let mine soak for a couple of days it came out looking brand new and got all of the old varnish out with no problem. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by kimchris1 on 08/25/13 at 00:27:18 Jen, the front brakes are a snap to change out. I did mine all by myself. The tech section here along with all the guys help can get you thru anything you need to do to this bike. Now of course if we could get some of the guys to have a wrenching session here in Wa. That would be great too.. Now about comparison to a Rebel, well I rode a Rebel for 2 years before buying my S-40 brand new in 09. The S-40 is heavier and has more get up and go than the Rebel has. I noticed that right off the bat. Their is bound to be some weight difference between your Harley and the S-40 as the HD is heavier. I think if you give it a chance you will love it like I do and the others here love theirs.. Best of luck and I am over by Bremerton, Shelton area.. Welcome aboard.. :) kim |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 08/31/13 at 07:50:40 I actually like the S40 more than my Sportster because I'm not paranoid about the weightof the S40 like I am of the Harley. I don't have the feeling that if it leans a little that it will fall over. Anyway, got the bike inspected and the Suzuki dealer said: (1) don't expect anything, it's a cheap bike and this is as good as it is going to run The front and rear brakes squeel when you stop and the bike backfires whenever you let off of the throttle. Is this nomal for this bike?? I really like it and wish it wouldn't do these things. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Steve H on 08/31/13 at 08:11:44 Hi, Jen, and welcome to the board. My fronts never squeal. The back only squeals the first and sometimes the second time they are applied that day. Both brakes work great. I'll grant them that it's a cheap bike. But, it will run great. It should run as smooth as any other bike. The old style dog gearbox is a bit clunky when changing but the engine stumbling, stuttering, etc. is not normal. It should willingly pull just as hard as you want when you get back on the throttle. The backfiring can be mitigated to a certain extent. Go here http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1181745927 and scroll down to the section on backfiring. Hope this helps you out. Enjoy your new bikes, whichever you decide to ride. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/13 at 09:10:45 4D6A666B6A7473626269070 wrote:
Translation: "I lack the mechanical aptitude to make it run better" Keep reading, the collective knowledge here can make your savage run like a raped ape and make your sportster cry. Quote:
There are a few fixes for the brakes, but the sure fire fix are pads with kevlar. tuning a carb is a fine art and so is operating one. a little higher idle speed may help or simply not letting the throttle snap shut. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Serowbot on 08/31/13 at 09:29:23 If it feels like a Rebel,... somethings wrong... It should feel like something right in between your 1200 Sporty and a Rebel... 0 to 60mph.... it should not disappoint... You most likely have some clogging in the carb... |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 08/31/13 at 14:25:50 Is anyone here in the central PA area? |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Night Train on 09/05/13 at 17:26:45 Quote:
Enola PA Having gone thru the same learning curve as you are now... I can control when my bike "barks" and my brakes are fine. The bike runs great and the "Collective wisdom of the group" has kept me away from the shops except for Safety Inspections. I am recently back after having to park the bike for awhile, life happens. So if your interested in wrenching on your bike, this forum will be your new best friend. Welcome and Good Luck. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Jen on 09/05/13 at 19:32:45 I brought the bike to Suzuki and got new front brakes, the EBC organic. My brake squeal is totally gone. I am having a great time with the bike, so much that the Sportster just sits in the garage. |
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Title: Re: Is my bike running right?? Post by Badass94Cad on 09/05/13 at 22:33:09 56717D70716F687979721C0 wrote:
Bucks County, SE PA here. 8-) |
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