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Message started by Midnightrider on 08/09/13 at 13:48:16

Title: This is for you Jog.
Post by Midnightrider on 08/09/13 at 13:48:16

Prisons

One would think it a worthy goal to rehabilitate prisoners and gradually empty the jails. But business is too good. With each prisoner generating up to $40,000 a year in revenue, it has apparently made economic sense to put over two million people behind bars.

The need to fill privatized prisons has contributed to mass jailings for drug offenses, with African Americans, who make up 13% of the population, accounting for 53.5 percent of all persons who entered prison because of a drug conviction. Yet marijuana usage rates are about the same for Blacks and whites.

Studies show that private prisons perform poorly in numerous ways: prevention of intra-prison violence, jail conditions, rehabilitation efforts. Investigations in Ohio and New Jersey revealed a familiar pattern of money-saving cutbacks and worsening conditions. I was not aware we had private prisons. I knew there was talk of them bit I didn't know they existed.

Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/13 at 14:17:59

& When it is profitable to have prisoners, prisoners will be abundant.

Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by WD on 08/09/13 at 15:19:54

Most prisons are to at least some extent privatized these days. The local one is wholly owned and run by a private company, has convicts from all over the country in it. The state prison we will be riding by on the way to Fort Pillow Battlefield is half state, 1/2 contractor run.

The private "bulls" are better trained, stronger, tougher, meaner, don't coddle the prisoners and in the end cost less than running the prisons with state employees. State gets a huge kick back, so ... win win... :-?

Scares the hell out of me, my politics aren't exactly in lock step with the modern era...

Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/13 at 15:22:38

Now, you tell me how a state can PROMISE to maintain occupancy in a prison unless theyre ready to CREATE criminals to lock up..

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Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by WD on 08/09/13 at 16:01:17

Man, I'm a white guy living in the Memphis area, that has to violate some kind of screwy statute... I know the fact we have a naturist facility does... probably the fact we don't grow GMO crops breaks a few "rules"... and, horror of horrors, we raise our own met chickens next to an uncapped abandoned well (that is plumb full of golf balls, er, I mean black walnuts)...

Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by Serowbot on 08/09/13 at 16:31:20

Privatized Prisons spend huge, lobbying against legalizing pot, and getting rid of the "War on Drugs" as well ...
Wonder why?... :-?...

Title: Re: This is for you Jog.
Post by Midnightrider on 08/09/13 at 22:55:29

I've heard talk of privatized prisons but I didn't know they even existed. I learn a lot on this forum. Bot what you said makes perfectly good sense.