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Title: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by LostArtist on 08/03/13 at 20:49:32 The Tribe (http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/motorcycles) http://cdn.polaris.com/ind/2014/img/vehicles/cc2g293r9oiaarmdzcg/detail/media_viewer/photos_large/photos_large_3.jpg http://cdn.polaris.com/ind/2014/img/vehicles/cvqny9bc522lw2okjah/detail/media_viewer/photos_large/photos_large_5.jpg http://cdn.polaris.com/ind/2014/img/vehicles/ct0lbiprfei61dmvllj/detail/media_viewer/photos_large/photos_large_10.jpg |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by WD on 08/04/13 at 07:57:11 Looks like this incarnation got smart and bought the tooling for a 1500 Drifter front fender from Kawasaki... it's mounted wrong, but the red one screams "I came off of a Drifter"... The hard bag version is hideous. The black one with the tan bags looks great. Definitely needs the bags to help hide the ugly rear fender step... Valiant effort, very close to right this time, much better than the Gilroy version and other pretenders. A little clean up where the side panels meet the fenders, and get rid of the 48-53 Dodge truck door seam in the fender valances, and it would be right. Now, if that engine was stuffed into an 800 Drifter chassis and bodywork... it would be what Indian should have become. |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by Serowbot on 08/04/13 at 08:20:48 Strip it down and make a bobber... ;D... |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by WD on 08/04/13 at 08:24:56 Tempting, but more likely to cut it down as a hill climber if it has any decent torque... ;) |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by Charon on 08/04/13 at 10:39:07 6C7F3B0 wrote:
What? You didn't complain because it has a hydraulic front fork instead of a springer? And that it isn't a hardtail? And that it doesn't have a kick starter? Not to mention overhead valves, electronic ignition and fuel injection? How can it be an Indian? |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by mpescatori on 08/04/13 at 10:56:58 220900130E0F610 wrote:
What? You didn't complain because it has a hydraulic front fork instead of a springer? And that it isn't a hardtail? And that it doesn't have a kick starter? Not to mention overhead valves, electronic ignition and fuel injection? How can it be an Indian? [/quote] And radial tires !!! :D |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by WD on 08/04/13 at 13:53:52 68434A5944452B0 wrote:
What? You didn't complain because it has a hydraulic front fork instead of a springer? And that it isn't a hardtail? And that it doesn't have a kick starter? Not to mention overhead valves, electronic ignition and fuel injection? How can it be an Indian? [/quote] Simple evolutionary process, if done right, is inoffensive. Indian's last models had glide front ends, almost no street bike these days has a kicker because a kicker paired with an electronic ignition is hard to set up properly, Indian had overhead valves a century ago... I'm just glad it isn't liquid cooled, although, it would be useful for more of the year if it was. When my bikes run, the air cooled ones are parked for late spring through mid fall down here, too hot/humid. I tried to refrain earlier, but, it does look like a Yamaha with Kawasaki fenders... If I want a modern Chief, I'll buy a Kiwi. Much more convincing, it is still a real side valve engine. And the ,mid 1930s Chief replica looks like the 1936 and 1938 models I used to own... http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/indiankiwi111.jpg |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by Pine on 08/04/13 at 14:40:42 Not my style of bike, but I wish them well. |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by mpescatori on 08/05/13 at 04:30:17 Quote:
:-? What's a Kiwi ? maybe you mean a "Kawi" ? (as in "Drifter") And who on earth still makes side valve engines ? Even Royal Enfield and Dnepr/Ural have gone OHV these days... |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by WD on 08/05/13 at 04:46:57 http://www.kiwiindian.com/ There is a 1500 Drifter on the farm already... |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by clearush on 08/05/13 at 18:28:57 they look nice and pricey |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by LostArtist on 08/05/13 at 20:49:28 0F1C580 wrote:
What? You didn't complain because it has a hydraulic front fork instead of a springer? And that it isn't a hardtail? And that it doesn't have a kick starter? Not to mention overhead valves, electronic ignition and fuel injection? How can it be an Indian? [/quote] Simple evolutionary process, if done right, is inoffensive. Indian's last models had glide front ends, almost no street bike these days has a kicker because a kicker paired with an electronic ignition is hard to set up properly, Indian had overhead valves a century ago... I'm just glad it isn't liquid cooled, although, it would be useful for more of the year if it was. When my bikes run, the air cooled ones are parked for late spring through mid fall down here, too hot/humid. I tried to refrain earlier, but, it does look like a Yamaha with Kawasaki fenders... If I want a modern Chief, I'll buy a Kiwi. Much more convincing, it is still a real side valve engine. And the ,mid 1930s Chief replica looks like the 1936 and 1938 models I used to own... http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/indiankiwi111.jpg [/quote] why do you like trouble?? side valve? ugly ass seats?? hard tail? a yamaha with swoopy fenders sounds solid to me, a kit bike replica of 1930's technology sounds like a headache. I like the new bikes, still way out of my price range, but ABS, push button start, mp3 player integration, saddle bags that open with the push of a button, heck the new bikes are like spaceships compared with the originals. but I like Victories too, so don't take my word for it . . . ;D 1948 Indian: http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/TY/viaEmail/1948_Indian_Chief_Right_Side_0_resize.jpg Kawasaki Drifter: are these liquid cooled? radiator hidden between the downtubes of the frame? oil cooler? http://www.wallpaperpimper.com/wallpaper/Bikes/Kawasaki/Kawasaki-VN-400-Vulcan-Drifter-2003-1-Z60DT8GD4Q-800x600.jpg New Indian 2014: http://cdn.polaris.com/ind/2014/img/vehicles/cc2g293r9oiaarmdzcg/detail/media_viewer/photos_large/photos_large_5.jpg |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by WD on 08/05/13 at 21:30:38 Liquid cooled, the 805cc version is in a softail frame, the 1500 is exposed twin shock. As far as the "fluff" on modern bikes... ABS? No, MP3? No. I could do w/o the push button start on the Savage, both Honda project bikes are kick only, and both have points ignition. And the seats on the old timers are easy on the back, even with rigid frames. I'll take one of them any day over the Savage, stock or built to fit like mine is. The rigid just feels more controlled to me when I'm getting on it pretty good. And a springer gives you better road feel and zero brake dive. My first bike had a tank shift, a rigid frame, points, kick only and a 17" over stock springer. My car has 4 wheel drums, manual steering and a 4 speed. My favorite truck has a hand throttle, stock... and a 230 cubic inch side valve 6 cylinder, 3 on the floor and a 4.78:1 rear gear set. |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/06/13 at 02:13:02 Face it WD, youre a renaissance man,, who shoulda been a grown man decades ago..I think I should have, |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by EJID on 08/06/13 at 07:23:45 I like that Polaris has taken a historical bike, Indian, and made a solid attempt at making a comeback with them. I would've never considered an Indian in the past because I don't want the headache of a classic always needing something to keep it running and the last run of them did not exactly have the best track record for reliability or availability. With the new production, models, and dealer support I wish them the best and in a number of years when I am actually considering a bigger bike for two-up riding I will have to consider the Indian Chief Vintage as shown below...very very similar to the Road King Classic that I always thought I would like. Indian Chief Vintage... http://cdn.polaris.com/ind/2014/img/vehicles/cvqny9bc522lw2okjah/detail/topimage.png Road King Classic... http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/2013-Motorcycles/touring/road-king-classic/gallery/large/13-hd-road-king-classic-1.jpg |
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Title: Re: new 2014 Indian Motos Post by Midnightrider on 08/07/13 at 20:46:41 I've always loved the looks and fenders but I would buy a Drifter. Indian has changed hands too many times and built bikes you'll never be able to get parts for. I think if Kawasaki would rerun the Drifter and the look alike Triumph 650 they would sell. |
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