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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1375215887 Message started by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 13:24:47 |
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Title: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 13:24:47 Hey guys, i just bought a 2001 Savage with 2040 miles on it last week, I'm really new to bikes and don't know much about how a motorcycle works, just learned to ride. Anyway, i do know that the bike seems to be running pretty hot, flames shot out of the back the other day and i figured that probably wasn't good. Yesterday i wrapped the pipes and took it out for a cruise last night , about 4 minutes into the ride and hitting about 40 mph the bike started jerking back and forth and stalled, i managed to get it home but it stalled about every 1/4 mile. i put a gallon of gas in it (super) and put it on the battery tender. a few hours later i took it back out for about a half hour, everything worked fine. woke up this morning and went riding for about a half hour, everything seemed normal,(it does backfire often but its been doing that since i got it), then I came home for some lunch and went back out and about 3 mins into the ride the bike stalled again, and couldn't get it to start back up for a half hour,all the electronics work but it felt like the bike wouldnt idle at all, went i got it to run again it seemed fine and i made it home. also just note that the bike stalls out when i put the choke on since i got it, any comments and advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys! |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Serowbot on 07/30/13 at 13:34:22 Test your Petcock,.. don't just turn it to Prime.. (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1251932429/1) |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 13:39:42 Thanks for the response Serowbot.. to be completely honest im not sure how to do that, i really don't even know where to start, lolthis is kinda like another language to me but im trying my best |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Blinky-FSO on 07/30/13 at 13:45:04 drums, I see where the bot is off line so i will step in. The red text in his reply is actually a link to the step by step process to test the petcock. Give it a click and see what you think. Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 13:47:24 lol darn i really am a newbie thanks blinky |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Blinky-FSO on 07/30/13 at 14:24:24 We all were once, drums, No sweat. Just don't ask about oil until you read the thread in the section above titled "4 Simple Answers." If you ask about oil after you read the thread, we will burn down your house. No, really, we will. 8-) Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/13 at 14:41:05 484E585F47591D1B2A0 wrote:
Leaning out, then running out of gas. Quote:
Tank full, works fine. Quote:
Gas level down again, leans out, then runs outa gas again. common problem, check your petcock. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 16:26:41 thanks for the response vers, the thing is there was plenty of gas in the tank each time, just took it for a ride and it stalled after riding two blocks, i adjusted the petcock to prime and it runs normal. would wrapping my exhaust have anything to do with this? |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by PhantomII on 07/30/13 at 16:38:23 This sounds like the problem my outboard motors have when the little diaphragm in the fuel pump starts to wear out, the motor will start to die and as soon as i squeeze the primer bulb it picks back up again. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Steve H on 07/30/13 at 17:25:50 If it runs normal on prime, sounds like you just identified the problem to be your fuel petcock. Go to your local Yamaha dealer and get 5LP-24500-01 (yamaha part #) petcock. It's a direct replacement and read the thread about installing the raptor petcock. The part'll be somewhere around $25. Oh, and do the test first just to make sure. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/13 at 17:30:13 No, test your petcock |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 19:00:52 also i just realized i have a ton of gas in my oil now, is this also related to the petcock issue or is this a whole other nuts storm? |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Oldfeller on 07/30/13 at 19:38:21 Whooowie, you got you a BAD BAD vac petcock. Change your oil and replace the vac petcock with a Raptor as per the link you were given earlier. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 21:22:21 thanks guys i appreciate all your input, my neighbor is still convinced i have a burnt piston ( i think thats what he said) is there any way it could be that or should i get my butt to the yamaha dealership to get the raptor petcock asap? |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Todd James on 07/30/13 at 22:01:08 bdrums: When you tapped into this site you connected to the greatest concentration of Suzuki Savage brainpower on the planet. Listen to what Oldfeller, verslagen1, and Serowbot tell you to do. They have guided hundreds of us through the process of making our bikes run properly. If you follow the directions they give you, you will end up with a good running machine and in the process you will learn how it works. Welcome to the school. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/13 at 22:04:49 testing... testing is this thing on? 67444C4E4D44444D5A280 wrote:
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/30/13 at 22:16:23 lol thanks Todd, these guys are awesome, i was having a panic attack before i posted on here, I'm going to order the raptor tomorrow, wish me luck. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Serowbot on 07/30/13 at 22:31:23 I think I was right... :-?... Either that,.. or someone just blew some air up my skirt... :-/... Best luck, Drummer boy... The swap is easy as toast... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/31/13 at 14:18:27 hey guys ran the petcock test, when i unplugged the vac line there wasnt any fuel coming out and couldnt really detect any moisture, but the prime and cap test worked, by bike felt really smooth in prime and stalled in the on position. i just order the raptor. i did notice that there is some oil and/or gas ( some sorta dark fluid) coming out of the breather hose( i think its called the breather hose, its the fat hose coming out the top of the engine) is this related to the petcock issue? |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Oldfeller on 07/31/13 at 14:40:22 No, that is the breather tube coming out of the top of the engin. It has a lot of oil blow by from the engine combustion process. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/31/13 at 15:49:04 so im looking good right now? also should i put some sea foam in the gas and oil after i switch the petcock and change the oil? thanks again for all the tips! |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by Serowbot on 07/31/13 at 15:50:28 Nupe... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by WD on 07/31/13 at 15:50:37 That fat breather hose had better still be attached to your airbox, if not, the top end of the engine will suck in a LOT of airborne grit. If your bike has a cone filter and no airbox, go to the nearest auto parts store and buy a little cone filter that fits the breather hose. The airbox has a drain line that empties between the engine and the rear tire, check it. If your crankcase filled up with fuel, you have a highly volatile bomb waiting to go off under your behind. I leave the drain line open on mine, have seen airbox fires on other models, it is not pretty, and you cannot put it out. You might consider putting your location where most of us list it, somebody may be close enough to give you hands on tutorials. The Savage is a decent little bike, but it has a lot of quirks. All easily remedied, pretty much all written up in the tech section. Throw your Clymer's manual away, buy some real tools and some reading glasses. There are forum members who have been riding and wrenching since the 1950s, some forum members have had our bikes longer than we care to admit (means we are getting older)... Welcome aboard, pull up a chair. |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/31/13 at 16:06:04 hey, WD thanks for the warm welcome man! im learning alot from this site so far, you guys know what your doing. the breather hose is just flapping in the wind, the air box is no longer there, the pervious owner tried to turn it into a bobber and defiantly sacrificed safety/performance for looks |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by WD on 07/31/13 at 16:25:50 Big breather hose just flapping... if you are in the USA, swing by Pep Boys or O'Reilly Auto Parts. Look in the "performance" section for a miniature K&N style filter. Trim the breather hose back to a length that pleases YOUR eye, and install the small filter. Your bike will thank you. Seriously, what is your location? I've had lots of people by the house over the years, working on bikes ranging from 1915-2012 model years. I've been, to quote my wife, "destroying perfectly good motorcycles" for 26 years... ;D |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/31/13 at 17:10:22 I've been, to quote my wife, "destroying perfectly good motorcycles" for 26 years... I respect people who have experience & know what theyre doin! |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by WD on 07/31/13 at 17:22:17 I despise stock motorcycles, unless they are factory rigid framed or plunger framed, with a springer or girder front end of some sort. Exposed rear shocks and a hydraulic front end? I'm making it into something interesting. I think I started "messing up" the Savage when it was two months or so old, paint was already fading, so, why not... |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by bdrums71 on 07/31/13 at 20:21:16 im from new jersey unfortunately lol |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/31/13 at 22:51:04 WD, I just toss barbs & jerk chains,, looked like an easy, cheap shot, so I ran with it, man! |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by WD on 07/31/13 at 23:15:45 ;D No worries, how long have we been friends on this site? |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/31/13 at 23:25:52 Dang, man,, I dunno,, been a few years I guess,, You were still workin in parts I think, at a bike shop.& Thats been a while,, |
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Title: Re: Bike is stalling, Please help a newbie out! Post by WD on 07/31/13 at 23:37:27 That was 5/05-12/06... had to predate that, I wasn't on the forum at all from late 04 to sometime in 06... been on it since , sometime in it's first year, Bert's forum was still around but in the process of going away. Was on Bert's forum from 4/98 until it went away... |
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