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Title: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by PhantomII on 07/26/13 at 00:47:09 I don't mean to ruffle anyone's feather but does Suzuki do any kind of stress testing on their products? I mean I had a RM 125 that would jump out of second gear in mid air and after I bought it I heard that RM 125's had gear box issues, then I had a LT 500 Quad Racer that had Crank Bearngs that would spin in the boss' and found out that it was a design flaw now I have a Savage that wasn't jetted correctly from the factory, has a squeaking speed odometer, and has a whining final drive. Do the other manufacturers have these kind of issues too? I've only owned a few other bikes like a YZ 250, CR 125 and a Honda Nighthawk 750 and the only thing I ever had to do on them was typical maintenance. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Serowbot on 07/26/13 at 01:03:31 If you wanted perfect,... you shoulda' bought a Honda... We like pain... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by WD on 07/26/13 at 07:00:27 In a nut shell, that would be putting it generously... Welcome to the wonderful world of the best AJS/Matchless/BSA mutant mutt hybrid thumper that England never made... I've had mine since 1998, they kind of grow on you. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Oldfeller on 07/26/13 at 07:41:47 Your accusations are all correct and right on the money. As the miles grow, you can add more to your list (we have already fixed all of them). Nobody would buy this bike except for a couple of sterling points. It can be very cheap when bought used. It fits short legged people like a 250, it has excellent torque for pulling away from stop lights (or Hurleys) and when tweeked a bit it becomes a pocketful of WEEEE !!! to quote the little Geico pig with his head sticking out the window. It is also very moddable, to the point you can Cinderella it into a bobber or a Ryca. It is a hobby as well as transportation. We are its support group and fan club, so it isn't like a Yammie or a Honda in that aspect. You are not all alone out there. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by PhantomII on 07/26/13 at 07:58:27 Well I loved all of my Suzuki's my RM was light and very quick and I could smoke most anything else on the track as long as i didn't crash, my LT 500 could out run every Banshee out there and I liked the fact I only paid $500.00 for my Savage it's a 1999 and only has 8,000 miles on it it's ugly as sin but it gets me to work everyday and aside from the known issues that I have fixed most of them it is very mechanically sound and a blast to ride. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by SALB on 07/26/13 at 09:54:58 Just think of it as having "character". 8-) ;D |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Serowbot on 07/26/13 at 09:58:59 I don't know if I just buy wrong,... but every car or bike I've ever owned, had it's weak points and design flaws... Show me the perfect bike,.. and I'll buy it... |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by LANCER on 07/26/13 at 11:05:22 I think of it as a "Hobby in Process". I am a chronic tinkerer, short legged, and a thumper fan, so it fits me well. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by savagebob on 07/28/13 at 19:10:05 Maybe Suzuki deliberately cut corners with the bike design because they knew there was a market out there for bikes with 'character.' They probably scratched their heads trying to workout why British bikes had such a following despite being so crap. So they made a crap bike and look! Here we all are. :D |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Gyrobob on 07/29/13 at 04:23:20 On the other hand, the two Suzuki bikes (for about 40,000 mi), and the one Suzuki car I have had (14 years and 90,000 mi), have been perfect. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by ToesNose on 07/29/13 at 04:25:11 I have an 07' S40 and have had no issues with my bike whatsoever. It's an entry level bike and with that being said yes there are a few things I would like to have seen done differently but all in all for what it is it's a great bike! The only thing I'm surprised about is that Suzuki has been making it for so long and hasn't addressed the cam chain tensioner :-? |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by WD on 07/29/13 at 06:03:46 Or the wrong size rear tire, wrong brand of tires, decompression solenoid relay that fills with water, CV carburetor, poor clearcoating on outer cases and switch boxes... |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by LANCER on 07/29/13 at 17:49:24 0B185C0 wrote:
So you can't think of anything wrong with it at all, eh ? |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/29/13 at 17:58:35 Im sure Zuki is just waitin to see if the bike is gonna be produced next year to solve these little issues.. YOu know how new models are.. always a few bugs,, Theyve only been makin these 20 years or so,, waddya want? |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by oldNslow on 07/29/13 at 18:02:58 Quote:
They probably don't expect anyone to keep one long enough for it to become an issue. Marketing folks likely told 'em that most people would buy a Savage, ride it for half a summer, sell it and buy a Harley. ;D Once it becomes a USED bike there isn't any reason for Suzuki to give a hoot one way or the other. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Boofer on 07/29/13 at 21:26:04 I think you may be looking for the Yugo Forum. ;D |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by SteveIsGr8 on 07/30/13 at 10:53:04 I had an 82 Suzuki GS1100E I bought new and bent the crank at around 700 miles. I took it in for the 600 mile check and they said all was good. Rode it up to Big Bear and on the way back did a hard pull from a stop sign and boom, hard knock. They replaced it and it went another 50,000 miles before the cam chain had to be replaced. I enjoyed the bike but haven't bought another Suzuki until I found a Savage I couldn't pass up. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by swedishbiker on 07/30/13 at 11:23:39 This happened also me, bent crank, GS500 1981. They replace it and put on 550cc cylinders. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Dave on 07/30/13 at 11:43:26 My Suzuki experience is mostly with 1970's era dirt bikes. I owned 3 of them and rode them a lot......and they always ran well, shifted well.....handled OK. Some of my racing success was due to the fact that the riders on european bikes would often miss a shift - while my bike seldom did. I think back on how I would ride on rounded knobbies....as I could not afford a new $ 25 knobby tire every year! Reliability was a strong point for Suzuki at that time. My current Suzuki Savage experience is not steller. I bought a bike with 262 miles on it and at 400 miles it started ticking, and at 1,262 miles the engine was apart to fix a left crank bearing and a loose flywheel nut. I am not sure what caused it - but it is fixed and for now the bike runs great. I wonder if the problems are that the manufacturing of parts may no longer be in Japan - but can be from China, India, etc. I do believe tha the design and technology that we have in our bikes today is superior to what we had available in the 70's - but I am not yet convinced that the quality of the parts today is as good as it used to be. This problem may not be limited to Suzuki, and may include any manufacturer that outsources their manufacturing. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/13 at 12:35:52 Interesting dave, I had a counterbalancer bearing go on an '02. it was the cage that broke allowing the balls to rub together. riveting is a lost science and no good way to check each one after assembly. the other bearing looks good and so do the mains. these are oiled by proximity to splashing oil, a couple of small changes could send runoff directly thru the cb bearings. but not sure if it's really an issue. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Midnightrider on 08/07/13 at 21:09:03 I know 2 guys that got 50,000 miles on the cam chain tensioner. One of them ran Suzuki oil. I don't know why some go quicker than others. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by Midnightrider on 08/09/13 at 23:30:42 I think of the Big 4 Suzuki has the less R+D and the worst quality. For a while they worked on the GS750 and made it possibly the best sport bike in the world. I believe their R+D is almost gone and quality has gone downhill. As a FSO I put up with the mechanical shortcomings because we want to ride an antique. I would love to have a Royal Enfield but their price is frigging crazy. If Triumph would build a 500 single I would be finding me a bank that would loan me the money. Honda hit a good lick with their 250 single, has about the same HP and performance as the Savage, maybe a little more But I think its fugly. I woulnt ride one. They're selling about all they can make. Plus the fact they handle like a dream and get 70mpg. I hope that's a sign singles are coming back. Maybe a well known secret is getting out. You don't have to have 100HP to have fun. The café renaissance is proving that. |
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Title: Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Post by MMRanch on 08/11/13 at 21:02:11 Well ! I did put an angle grinder to my belt to add some chamfer to it and guess what ???? The belt squeel went away !!!! before that I just added some Chain Wax or Shoe Wax either one . ;) |
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