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Message started by raydawg on 07/21/13 at 14:35:36

Title: Belt gauge reading
Post by raydawg on 07/21/13 at 14:35:36

If I have the belt gauge in place and I can still see the line on the bottom, am I good? Do I need to jack the rear wheel off the ground too? It says to remove any load off the bike.....

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 14:41:52

You want to see pretty much all of the lines milled into the plunger. The gauge is flawed, following the owner's manual specs will set your belt too tight. Which will make it chirp and squeak and track funny and crack... and put unnecessary strain on the hub cushions, the front pulley and transmission output shaft/shaft seal... Leading to transmission problems and clutch issues down the road.

Throw the gauge on the shelf as decor, use the 90* twist method.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by raydawg on 07/21/13 at 14:49:49

OK...i jacked the rear wheel up and took out of gear so I could spin the wheel and look at the belt. I notice now that all the lines (3) are visible when the plunger in put into place...Also I notice the front pulley has a very slight bump to it when rotated, no wobble, but I can see its not perfectly round. As to the twist method, you mean if I can twist the belt 90 degrees from its normal plane, its good, or?

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 14:59:17

Bike on the kickstand, twist the lower belt run with your thumb and two fingers. If it will go to roughly 90* without all the blood leaving your fingers, it's good to go. Just tight enough for your nail beds to blanch is perfect.

Unless they changed the owners manual a bit, you do the plunger test on the kickstand as well.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by raydawg on 07/21/13 at 15:12:02

OK, I'm good then, and I do need a new rear tire darn, at only 6500 and its almost bald in the middle   >:(

Rottella in, just need to tidy up then give her a spin then go drop my crab traps!

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/13 at 15:16:42

6500 miles on what kinda tire? if thats a stock tire, you got 1,500 more than i did

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 15:18:07

If they still ship with IRC tires, 6500 is actually pretty decent life.

Crab traps? Dungeness or red rocks? Last time I tried deep water crabbing up there I got in trouble for catching king crab... like the crab knows it isn't the right species...  :-? Different king crab than the Alaskan kind.


Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/13 at 15:49:34

Those gauges are best read from a distance.

Step 1 Stand up
Step 2, turn back to bike
Step 3 Throw that piece O crap as far as ya can
Step 4 Bike in first gear
5 roll backwards to put all the slack in the bottom of the belt
6 grab the belt 1/2 way between pulleys
7 twist belt 90 degrees

Now, this isnt a lumberjack or any kinda strong man deal. Talkin secretary here,, now, if shes weighin a bill 10, she mite break a sweat,,but, she could do it,,

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by wambr on 07/22/13 at 00:59:35

someone of you guys did a video on verifying the belt tension..
p.s. not for me

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by df0518 on 07/22/13 at 10:12:07

here is the video on youtube - thanks to serowbot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ZsZzTwRyk&feature=player_detailpage

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by rl153 on 07/23/13 at 14:41:03

What will happen if your belt is slightly to tight? I think my belt has never been adjusted since the factory,and it's a 2005.I can twist  it almost 90 degrees but its kind of tough.Thanks!

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/13 at 14:48:39

Kinda Tuff is it? Thats reasonable,, for a secretary,,Yu a steel worker? Body builder? Iron man competitor? If so AND its still Kinda Tuff,, then its most likely too tite, but as long as its not squeakin & makin you nuts,, then, I dont see the problem,,except that tighter than optimal would increase wear on everything in that power transfer system and would increase gas use, Im no tuff guy, but I can rotate a fully slack lower 1/2 of the belt 90* with finger tips,
Put the slack in the bottom by putting in gear & rolling back,

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by rl153 on 07/23/13 at 14:57:06

Oh,your supposed to put it in gear and roll it back.I didn't get that. let me try this again.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by rl153 on 07/23/13 at 15:08:06

OK,I put it in first gear, rolled it back,and did the twist test. It made a significant difference ,and it is fine.Thanks guys, I was worried there for a minute.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by WD on 07/23/13 at 15:13:07

No worries, that's why we hang out here. Awful lot of info is left out of the manuals on these bikes.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by Digger on 08/15/13 at 20:51:22


55465E43465040270 wrote:
If I have the belt gauge in place and I can still see the line on the bottom, am I good? Do I need to jack the rear wheel off the ground too? It says to remove any load off the bike.....



Here is my experience with the tool:

If you insist on using the belt gauge, don't set the belt any tighter than this:


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/BeltTensionGaugeE.jpg


Actually, the gauge should be positioned such that its longitudinal axis is perpendicular to the belt.  Mine is set a little off of the perpendicular in the above photo.

Currently, the belt on my Savage (see signature) is a tad too tight (I can rotate the belt about 85 degrees).  If the gauge in the picture were set perfectly at the perpendicular, it would indicate a bit tighter than it does in the photo.  I figure my slightly over-tight belt cancels out the slight mispositioning of the tension gauge, soooo.....

Bottom line?  Don't use the gauge, set your belt tension via the twist method.  If you insist on using the gauge, set the belt tension no tighter than what you see on the above photo.

YMMV!


Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by WD on 08/15/13 at 20:54:10

Three words to perfectly describe the function of the little brass widget... drift fishing weight. Surf casting weight works fine too.

It is worth more as scrap brass than as a tool.

Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by Dave on 08/16/13 at 09:48:36


5744000 wrote:
Three words to perfectly describe the function of the little brass widget... drift fishing weight. Surf casting weight works fine too.  It is worth more as scrap brass than as a tool.


I have mine sitting here on my desk at the office.  When I get a long, boring telephone call.....I pick up the spring loaded widget and fiddle with it for stress relief.


Title: Re: Belt gauge reading
Post by Serowbot on 08/16/13 at 10:05:14

I thought about mounting mine on the bike somewhere,.. just to make people wonder what it does...
Looks kinda' steampunk... :-?...

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