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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Universal Turn Signals on the Savage /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1374276239 Message started by nickeynicknick on 07/19/13 at 16:23:59 |
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Title: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/19/13 at 16:23:59 I bought some universal turn signals http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-12V-Ruby-Amber-Filament-Chrome-Bubbet-Lights-Pair-For-HARLEY-COSTOMIZE-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/$T2eC16ZHJHIE9nysey1mBP9V(pgv3w~~60_12.JPG but I stupidly did not check what our bikes have for voltage on the blinkers :-[. evidently its 6v. These are 12. when wired it hyperflashes. should i just return and try to find 6v or is there a really easy fix? i've been trying to find any info on this. one forum said to just put 6v bulbs in the 12v turn signal. will this work? or if i need a new flasher, anybody have suggestions? thank for any help on this. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Greg on 07/19/13 at 16:38:44 I didn't think there were any 6v vehicles made since I was born. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by apache snow on 07/19/13 at 17:09:46 Just put 12 volt bulbs in them. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by gizzo on 07/19/13 at 17:20:19 Snap! I have the exact same blinkers on my little bobber. They came with 10w bulbs fitted and did the same very quick flashing. You need to replace them with 12v 21w bulbs of the same size. I had the part number somewhere but I'm sorry to say I've lost it. The other problem you will have with these ones is that the mounting bolt is made of some kind of cheese and breaks really easily if you do the nuts up tight. I had to make a couple of hollow bolts to replace a couple already. Just chopped up some old spare blinkers to get them. The front mounts, I cut up the stock blinkers to get the steel bung that slips into the fork bracket, drilled the middle and tapped the hole to take the screw on the new blinker. I hope that makes sense. That way, you can use the original Suzuki fork bracket. The blinker housing seems good quality, hasn't rusted or broken yet. I can take a few pics for you if you think they'll help? Cheers simon |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Serowbot on 07/19/13 at 17:48:27 Yup,.. it's not the volts, it's the watts... 12volts,.. just too low watts... |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/19/13 at 22:31:55 awesome! thanks for the replies. i was lost on the voltages. so to sum up: new bulbs. 21 watts? i will try to find replacements. thanks again. and gizzo, i got some cheapo fork brackets. i'm trying to keep the stock stuff i take off the bike in tact so i can sell them or reinstall on the bike if i decide to sell it someday, if i dont end up altering my bike too much that is. :D |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by WD on 07/20/13 at 05:28:40 I use the same signals on the rear of mine, even though they aren't required here. Swing by NAPA and ask for the short 1156 equivalent. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Paladin. on 07/20/13 at 10:57:20 43444E46485443444E4643444E462D0 wrote:
Touch the lamp to 12 volts, battery or a charger. (If a 6 volt lamp it will flash once, bright, and will then be black inside.) If the lamp is bright enough for you, and you are hyper-flashing, you need to change the flasher. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/21/13 at 11:12:42 gizzo, serowbot, wd: is this what you're talking about? http://www.amazon.com/automotive/dp/B0052E84KM and if this doesn't work, paladin, what flasher do I need? and again, thanks so much for the help! |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 11:24:26 Yep, that's the ones. They should be 21 or 23 watt if I remember right. That's what my set takes. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/21/13 at 11:40:34 sorry for sounding stupid, but the higher wattage makes it blink at normal speed? i just figured it was wrong voltage or like paladin said, the flasher. but i will try to find some of these cause i really like the mini bullets. they are gonna look real nice! thanks for the help! |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 11:55:49 They flashed fine on mine, right up until the turn signal switch fell apart. Stock flasher relay, stock front lights, bulbs swapped to 1157 instead of the delicate stock version. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/21/13 at 12:07:19 awesome! thanks so much for the help! will post pics of finished product as soon as i get it done. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Steve H on 07/21/13 at 12:07:45 The flasher is a thermal unit. (it carries power, heats up, breaks the circuit, cools down, does it again) It's been tuned for the amount of power pulled by the stock lighting. Varying from that will cause either really slow or really fast flashing. Changing to either bulbs that use the same amount of power or an electronic flasher will fix it. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/21/13 at 12:37:41 that makes sense Steve. thanks for the explanation. :) |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/25/13 at 08:07:38 got the bulbs in. tested them before install and they work great! thanks guys for the help! ran into a problem installing them on the rear. did you use stock turn signal holes? mine are thicker and the bolt on the new signal isnt long enough to make it through. trying to figure something out without drilling a hole in the side rail. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/25/13 at 09:41:47 You need a longer screw? |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Dave on 07/25/13 at 11:02:56 Putting aftermarket turn signals in the stock location is a bit problematic. The stock ones had a screw that went in the side of the mounting stud....and the wires could then feed into the side rail without an issue. The aftermarket ones have a threaded stud and you need to install a nut on the back.....and they there may not be room for the wires to feed through....and I believe the sleeve the stock turns signals were mounted in are too long to allow most turn signal mounts to be used as the threaded portion is not long enough. You might consider mounting the turn signals back by the tail light as some have done. You might consider having someone grind or mill the stock turn signal mounting sleeves on the side rails so that they are not so deep and allow the new turns signals to mount in the existing holes. Or you might consider using the stock holes to mount a stud - do which you attach a bracket that would hold your new turn signals. Here area some threads you could have found in the technical section under lighting: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1137475021 http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gitarzan/GitarzansBracket/gitarzansbracket.htm http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1265238686 This index of links to Tecnhical Articles is used way too little.....it is a realy good source of information: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1181745927 |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by savagebob on 07/25/13 at 18:09:25 anyone got any clever ways to make nice spacers for the common mini bullet signals? The hollow bolt that screws into the bottom of them isn't long enough for much. I was trying to see how I could use the factory rubber extensions but it doesn't look like it's going to work. I guess the easiest was is to just bend up some flat bar, bolt it through the existing fork mount and then bolt the bullet to it, but that will leave the wires dangling in the wind which will look naif |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by verslagen1 on 07/25/13 at 19:26:29 http://savageriders.com/verslagen/Aftermarketsignals/ready%20to%20thread%20them%20in.jpg http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1137475021 |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/27/13 at 19:03:43 this is what I ended up doing. bought ubolts from Home Depot and stole the washer/clamp off it. used washers to bolt in existing mount hole. also bought some cap nuts to try to keep it somewhat matching. definitely not custom looking but it's small enough to not be ugly. the mod to the existing signals would have worked but I want to sell or keep those. http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-20.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-21.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-23.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-22.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-24.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-25.jpg I did have to drill out the holes to widen a bit for the bolts but other than that this was an easy mounting mod. the comparison photo doesn't have them mounted fully just a mock up. still have to wire them up and take the front fork mount off. but ready to ride! |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by old_rider on 07/28/13 at 07:33:09 Nick, might wanna check with local police or trooper or DOT, I don't think red is legal. I think it has to be amber on the front, don't know for sure so thought i'd ask, been awhile since I was stationed in ark. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by WD on 07/28/13 at 08:55:02 Order some amber lenses, front must be yellow, rear can be yellow or red. Much improved look on your bike Nick. The stock "lobster eye" signals are horrifying, aren't they? |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by nickeynicknick on 07/28/13 at 13:00:55 thanks! I really like the look of it. slims up the whole bike. and they are amber. just a darker thicker looking lens. caught some pics of the flashers on: http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-26.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/nggarrett/null-27.jpg |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by old_rider on 07/28/13 at 14:22:53 Sweet! nice lookin' and the profile is much improved. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by Oldfeller on 07/28/13 at 15:10:11 Old, did you ever get out of that back brace? Just been thinkin' about you and the early summer trip .... |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by old_rider on 07/28/13 at 23:00:21 1D3E3634373E3E3720520 wrote:
Yeah, outta the brace, cept if i'm gonna do any kind of lifting....still lotsa pain and stiffness, that should ease up with time. Got an appointment tomorrow with my cancer doc, just had a PET scan, full body, to see if i'm clean (fingers crossed). Bit worried cause of the fractured back, gonna ask him about the bone density too. Was hoping to make it to WD's on a savage for me, but can't get no one to commit on the Harley buy and I haven't put the wifes 250 rebel up for sale yet. Can't be totin' around bikes with the back all snarled up :-[ Thanks for askin' :) Can't wait till next year, to see were we are going! If I get at least one of the bikes sold i'll make an offer on the savage a friends friend has and might, just might, make it to WD's. |
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Title: Re: Universal Turn Signals on the Savage Post by WD on 07/29/13 at 06:00:36 Drive up. Bad back is a more than acceptable reason to be on four wheels. Most of the roads around here a Savage is overkill if you want to trailer up the baby bike. |
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