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Title: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democracy Post by RatdogWillie on 07/17/13 at 21:04:33 Even Jimmy Carter is aware. Ex-President Carter condemned U.S. snooping The Obama administration tried to placate Europe's anger over spying programs. Not as ex-President Jimmy Carter: The Democrat attacked the U.S. intelligence sharp. The disclosure by whistleblowers Snowden was "useful." Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter criticized in the wake of the NSA spy scandal the American political system. "America has no functioning democracy," Carter said Tuesday at a meeting of the "Atlantic Bridge" in Atlanta. Previously, the Democrat had been very critical of the practices of U.S. intelligence. "I think the invasion of privacy has gone too far," Carter told CNN. "And I think that is why the secrecy was excessive." Overlooking the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden said Carter, whose revelations were long "likely to be useful because they inform the public." Carter has repeatedly warned that the United States sharply declined due to excessive restriction of civil rights. Last year he wrote in an article in the "New York Times", new U.S. laws "never before seen breach our privacy by the government". Carter was the 39th President of the United States, who ruled from 1977 until 1981. During his tenure, he tried to align U.S. foreign policy that is more about human rights - after his retirement from active politics for his humanitarian work, he received the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize. In Atlanta, he also expressed his overall pessimistic about the global situation. There is currently no reason for him to be optimistic, Carter said, referring to the situation in Egypt, which had fallen into a military dictatorship. He also lamented the growing political divide in the United States, the excessive influence of money in U.S. election campaigns and the confusing American election rules. The ex-president whose "Carter Center" operates worldwide including election monitoring, announced skeptical whether the United States, the standard that applies when reviewing the Center of elections might be fulfilled. As a bright spot, however, Carter called the triumph of modern technology that would have caused some of the countries of the Arab Spring of democratic progress. Exactly these developments but are endangered by the NSA spy scandal as major U.S. Internet platforms such as Google or Facebook lose credibility worldwide. Translated from: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nsa-affaere-jimmy-carter-kritisiert-usa-a-911589.html |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 08:56:34 Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democracy - thanks to people like Jimmy Carter ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Serowbot on 07/18/13 at 09:53:20 6B4E414A6E43434A412F0 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 10:03:58 5244534E56434E55210 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." [/quote] ;D ;D ;D The operative word being "like", it's a knock at those who think the Constitution is a living document where rights to privacy and freedom from government intrusion can evolve at the whims of who ever is in power at the moment. It's just funny how full circle this has come around, liberals like to bypass the system for the sake of expediency and then complain when it blows up out of control. Yes, Bush started the surveilence fiasco but Obama and co have stripped off all the restrictions that were in place and "interpreted" a whole host of new powers there were not originally intended. Thus, the argument for small government - because this always happens. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Pine on 07/18/13 at 10:53:51 7E5B545F7B56565F543A0 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." [/quote] ;D ;D ;D The operative word being "like", it's a knock at those who think the Constitution is a living document where rights to privacy and freedom from government intrusion can evolve at the whims of who ever is in power at the moment. It's just funny how full circle this has come around, liberals like to bypass the system for the sake of expediency and then complain when it blows up out of control. Yes, Bush started the surveilence fiasco but Obama and co have stripped off all the restrictions that were in place and "interpreted" a whole host of new powers there were not originally intended. Thus, the argument for small government - because this always happens.[/quote] quoted for TRUTH.... "slippery slope" |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 10:57:29 4970777C6D766B190 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." [/quote] ;D ;D ;D The operative word being "like", it's a knock at those who think the Constitution is a living document where rights to privacy and freedom from government intrusion can evolve at the whims of who ever is in power at the moment. It's just funny how full circle this has come around, liberals like to bypass the system for the sake of expediency and then complain when it blows up out of control. Yes, Bush started the surveilence fiasco but Obama and co have stripped off all the restrictions that were in place and "interpreted" a whole host of new powers there were not originally intended. Thus, the argument for small government - because this always happens.[/quote] quoted for TRUTH.... "slippery slope"[/quote] And its so nice to see all the right wing nuts get united behind the cause ... 6-7 years too late ... much like the TEA baggers did a few years ago ... but still so nice to see ... I'll bet as soon as Rand Paul or someone gets up there, promptly they will go ... yea yea "NSA security is keepin us safe" Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by oldNslow on 07/18/13 at 10:58:01 Quote:
I remember Carter's dismal term as President pretty well, and I never thought I'd agree with him about much of anything, but he's pretty much spot on here. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 11:54:25 6263787F706579110 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." [/quote] ;D ;D ;D The operative word being "like", it's a knock at those who think the Constitution is a living document where rights to privacy and freedom from government intrusion can evolve at the whims of who ever is in power at the moment. It's just funny how full circle this has come around, liberals like to bypass the system for the sake of expediency and then complain when it blows up out of control. Yes, Bush started the surveilence fiasco but Obama and co have stripped off all the restrictions that were in place and "interpreted" a whole host of new powers there were not originally intended. Thus, the argument for small government - because this always happens.[/quote] quoted for TRUTH.... "slippery slope"[/quote] And its so nice to see all the right wing nuts get united behind the cause ... 6-7 years too late ... much like the TEA baggers did a few years ago ... but still so nice to see ... I'll bet as soon as Rand Paul or someone gets up there, promptly they will go ... yea yea "NSA security is keepin us safe" Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Better late than not at all. Where did all the liberal protectors of individual liberty and freedom go, anyway? |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by RatdogWillie on 07/18/13 at 13:21:38 40415A5D52475B330 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 13:22:06 65404F44604D4D444F210 wrote:
Right.... it's Carter's fault... "Asked about an NSA program that tracks people's Internet activity, Bush said, "I put that program in place to protect the country. One of the certainties was that civil liberties were guaranteed." [/quote] ;D ;D ;D The operative word being "like", it's a knock at those who think the Constitution is a living document where rights to privacy and freedom from government intrusion can evolve at the whims of who ever is in power at the moment. It's just funny how full circle this has come around, liberals like to bypass the system for the sake of expediency and then complain when it blows up out of control. Yes, Bush started the surveilence fiasco but Obama and co have stripped off all the restrictions that were in place and "interpreted" a whole host of new powers there were not originally intended. Thus, the argument for small government - because this always happens.[/quote] quoted for TRUTH.... "slippery slope"[/quote] And its so nice to see all the right wing nuts get united behind the cause ... 6-7 years too late ... much like the TEA baggers did a few years ago ... but still so nice to see ... I'll bet as soon as Rand Paul or someone gets up there, promptly they will go ... yea yea "NSA security is keepin us safe" Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Better late than not at all. Where did all the liberal protectors of individual liberty and freedom go, anyway?[/quote] Of course its better late than never ... I guess with bush it was better early than never ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by RatdogWillie on 07/18/13 at 13:30:13 3D3C27202F3A264E0 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 13:39:34 685B4E5E555D6D535656535F3A0 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so.[/quote] Nice of you to ask - So you reference a slang dictionary to give your insult some kind of legitimacy…… <- Ratdiogwillie you are defined as a neocon troll that supports the Bu$h Administration's heavily propagandized 9/11 fairytale. <- Ratdogwillie I am not mentally lazy like you <- Ratdogwillie I regard you and those that refuse to examine the lame official 9/11 story the same as the Tories of the Revolutionary War era. It is people such as you that allow and give legitimacy to the continuing rape of the Constitution and the advancement of tyranny. <- Ratdogwillie Somebody should have long ago pointed out to you, that you come across as a smartazz fourteen year old child that believes he knows it all and blindly wallows in his arrogance's. <- Ratdogwillie Here ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by keith on 07/20/13 at 18:58:03 OF course Carter's statement is a folly in and of itself. This country is not, not has it ever been a democracy. We are a democratic republic. There is a difference and it matters that people don't know the difference. We elect people to represent. Otherwise we would vote on every single bill and law that is ever presented to be made law. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Starlifter on 07/20/13 at 19:25:21 Yes this is a democratic republic. We all know that so what's that got to do with the NSA spying on all of us? |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by keith on 07/20/13 at 20:35:02 587F6A7967626D7F6E790B0 wrote:
You would be amazed how many people don't know that. Secondly if we elected representatives that respected the voters we would likely not have these problems. But the government no long fears us. The majority are clueless in how the system works and what their role is in it. Hell most people don't even know who their senators or representatives are. That is the point. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Midnightrider on 07/21/13 at 12:34:39 Watch Carter's last speech on You Tube. He predicted the future and was almost dead on it. He was smarter than a lot of people give him credit for. When he froze prices and salaries it was to keep the oil companies from taking advantage of us. He knew the gas shortage was fake. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/13 at 12:46:39 his brother was a bunch smarter than we were led to believe, too |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by Dane Allen on 07/23/13 at 13:59:54 06222F25222C233F39222F2E394B0 wrote:
Well, he created the gas shortage, the way I understand it, to fight a commodity market corner attempt by OPEC. I grew up in a farming community and they had gas to burn off, which they sometimes needed to do. You can only plow and tractor soo much before you have a huge store of volatile fuel. |
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Title: Re: Jimmy Carter -USA no longer a functional democ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/13 at 14:10:07 Doesnt matter HOw much plowin & tractor driving I do, my wife says I have too much gas.. |
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