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Title: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/17/13 at 17:37:18 The fight is about librulls and republicommunists ... No one is conservative ... The republicans are for collecting less taxes by not taxing the rich ... and cutting the govt programs for the poor. The Librulls are for expanding govt and keeping up hand outs and borrowing from china. Of these 2 awful options, I'd say "bleed china dry" ... when they shrivel and die, we build ourselves back up ... However we were @ one stage in a spot where we could have done neither, and live within our means and and work ourselves into better and better life. I think the boat sailed, but the situation we are in now, I'd say we leech off china. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/13 at 20:30:00 are you a conservative? |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 06:46:37 514E484F52556454645C4E42093B0 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Pine on 07/18/13 at 08:22:37 70716A6D62776B030 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] /agreed But labels such as conservative - have been polluted as well. I use to consider myself conservative... but I can no longer do that. I am a fiscal conservative... which Sri seems to be also. This thread seems to be limited to the fiscal perspective. As to our choices, Sri certainly makes a good argument for that idea. Though it wouldn't be my first choice. I suspect future generations of US inhabitants are in for a world of hurt. And what hurts most is they will look back at this generation and blame us .... rightly. :-[ |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 08:27:53 50514A4D42574B230 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] SOMEONE HACKED SRINATHS ACCOUNT!!! :o :o :o :D It started with Bush 1, Republicans were tired of all the Reagan success and wanted to slink back into the margins. Leading like Reagan did was hard, it's easier to be liked by giving away the farm. Obama has avoided leadership altogether and just divides and conquers. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 08:43:30 4B6E616A4E63636A610F0 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] SOMEONE HACKED SRINATHS ACCOUNT!!! :o :o :o :D It started with Bush 1, Republicans were tired of all the Reagan success and wanted to slink back into the margins. Leading like Reagan did was hard, it's easier to be liked by giving away the farm. Obama has avoided leadership altogether and just divides and conquers.[/quote] Regean also raised taxes on everything ... including imports ... we cant do that now, or we are better off handing china garbage paper and getting goods, then printing $$$ when they say something and handing that to them ... Obama has only been a smaller dirtbag than the previous and the ones hoping to replace him. In any case, bleeding the chinese dry, keeping infrastructure and other programs humming along is the conservative course ... not giving tax cuts to the rich, killing infrastructure and social programs ... Obama is more fiscally conservative than TEA baggers and RMoney and everyone else ... Socially he is only a little librull, and I am good with that. He could be more pro ghey, and less pro abortion. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 09:58:25 2D2C37303F2A365E0 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] SOMEONE HACKED SRINATHS ACCOUNT!!! :o :o :o :D It started with Bush 1, Republicans were tired of all the Reagan success and wanted to slink back into the margins. Leading like Reagan did was hard, it's easier to be liked by giving away the farm. Obama has avoided leadership altogether and just divides and conquers.[/quote] Regean also raised taxes on everything ... including imports ... we cant do that now, or we are better off handing china garbage paper and getting goods, then printing $$$ when they say something and handing that to them ... Obama has only been a smaller dirtbag than the previous and the ones hoping to replace him. In any case, bleeding the chinese dry, keeping infrastructure and other programs humming along is the conservative course ... not giving tax cuts to the rich, killing infrastructure and social programs ... Obama is more fiscally conservative than TEA baggers and RMoney and everyone else ... Socially he is only a little librull, and I am good with that. He could be more pro ghey, and less pro abortion. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] We aren't bleeding them dry, the paper we are sending them has enough value now that they are trading it for mass quantities of gold and other precious metals which do have real value. When our paper becomes worthless it is us who will be bled dry as the currency will be dumped, china will foreclose and China will have all the wealth. Communists/central planners view currencies differently than we do and don't rely on full faith and credit, rather on the ability to supress their populations. They have the physical resources and our markers so the paper currency is just something to recycle into something else. When our money becomes worthless it's not the Chinese who will be left holding the bag, it will be us. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 10:11:53 13363932163B3B3239570 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] SOMEONE HACKED SRINATHS ACCOUNT!!! :o :o :o :D It started with Bush 1, Republicans were tired of all the Reagan success and wanted to slink back into the margins. Leading like Reagan did was hard, it's easier to be liked by giving away the farm. Obama has avoided leadership altogether and just divides and conquers.[/quote] Regean also raised taxes on everything ... including imports ... we cant do that now, or we are better off handing china garbage paper and getting goods, then printing $$$ when they say something and handing that to them ... Obama has only been a smaller dirtbag than the previous and the ones hoping to replace him. In any case, bleeding the chinese dry, keeping infrastructure and other programs humming along is the conservative course ... not giving tax cuts to the rich, killing infrastructure and social programs ... Obama is more fiscally conservative than TEA baggers and RMoney and everyone else ... Socially he is only a little librull, and I am good with that. He could be more pro ghey, and less pro abortion. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] We aren't bleeding them dry, the paper we are sending them has enough value now that they are trading it for mass quantities of gold and other precious metals which do have real value. When our paper becomes worthless it is us who will be bled dry as the currency will be dumped, china will foreclose and China will have all the wealth. Communists/central planners view currencies differently than we do and don't rely on full faith and credit, rather on the ability to supress their populations. They have the physical resources and our markers so the paper currency is just something to recycle into something else. When our money becomes worthless it's not the Chinese who will be left holding the bag, it will be us.[/quote] Got it .. .china wil lforeclose ... and take the land they have foreclosed on ? It works when an american based bank forecloses on a house located in america, they can toss the resident out and put another ... the chinese will have to hire us to do that ... we'll charge them for it. Much like a bank ... China is buying gold ... OK, and when did you eat gold last ? When Our money becomes worthless, china will be left without anything to sell us, cos we will only pay them in dollars ... so we will be making and selling things not buying them. China isn't selling our bonds back into the market ... we will need a whole new line of politicians who will not let china buy any real items that can be transported out ... if they want to buy a coal mine, we can let them do that but we will make them pay our miners as per our safety and rules. We also could impose an export tax on resources. So they can operate the mine, use our labor and follow our rules, sell the coal in the US, and if they transport it outside we charge them export taxes. The dollar is the worlds reserve currency ... There is avery very very small window of events where gold is valuable but the dollar is not. I dont think it will happen in the next 20 years. The euro is done, the yen is done ... these 2 were the 2 that were threatening to take that place. China may be growing ... but they are growing by selling to US. We stop buying they go dark. We start selling, they go dead. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Paraquat on 07/18/13 at 11:09:08 I hope you're correct on that one. --Steve |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 12:22:31 Quote:
The problem is that we won't be making the rules at that point, we will be starving and re-enacting scenes from Thunderdome. "Master/Blaster runs Barter Town!!!" Quote:
Gold can buy a lot of food, looting only gets you shot eventually. Quote:
With what capital? Will be sell more bonds bcked by a worthless currency? The people like Romney, whom you refer to as a scumbag for being successful, are going to be broke. So, unless people will work for free, no new industry. Quote:
If they allow it, which I doubt they will. All politicians have a price and you would be surprised at how many you can get for a few ounces of gold in an economic collapse. Quote:
They will tell us what our politicians what our rules are and the politicians will make it happen and we will be grateful for it. People will be starving and preying on each other, OSHA isn't going to have much of a say. Quote:
Only if they agree, which they won't. Quote:
They will buy the mine via a shuttered bank for pennies, government will fast track the sale, collect their kickback and the serfs will grind to the bone. Quote:
The dollar is useful as long as we can back it up, once it collapses the world will drop it and it will be forgotten trivia that it was ever important. Fiat money is only as good as it is right now, the millisecond it becomes worthless something else takes it's place, after a civil war or world war, that is. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 13:03:33 1000's of assumptions between now and then Daney, most of which will never turn out to be true, cos there will be no option to make it true. In the end, we can do exactly as we have been doing all long, and prevent us from ending where you think we will just by stopping a few things later in the future. Have you played the McDonalds monopoly game ... you know how they control giving out the big prizes ... Same type of deal here too ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 13:06:32 63464942664B4B4249270 wrote:
This is the result of citizens united. Which is the first thing that needs to be shredded and thrown out. Republicans again @ the forefront of stabbing the country. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by RatdogWillie on 07/18/13 at 13:17:36 64657E7976637F170 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 13:18:51 516277676C64546A6F6F6A66030 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so.[/quote] You should stop breathing till I do ... afterall it worked for so many cute little girls ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by Dane Allen on 07/18/13 at 14:01:33 44455E5956435F370 wrote:
I won't let you get away with calling me a bigot. I demand proof or an apology. I won't let up until you do so.[/quote] You should stop breathing till I do ... afterall it worked for so many cute little girls ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Wow, you sure went creepy, a whole new low. :o :o :o :o |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/13 at 14:10:51 71706B6C63766A020 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] So, who Is a conservative in DC? |
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Title: Re: The problem is - no one is conservative Post by srinath on 07/18/13 at 17:59:15 091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:
Dont even connect me to the republicommunists who hold a shred of power today - those are an insult to any one who is conservative. But the answer to your question is yes. However I believe we have travelled too far down the non conservative path started by Bush, not in 2007 bailout, but sometime in 2002/3 that we can not reverse course till ... well many things have to happen ... but, our current borrow and spend and I do wish we'd spend that on important long lasting things like infrastructure and schools etc ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] So, who Is a conservative in DC? [/quote] Not since Ron Paul ... But 2008 he was somewhere where he could have backed us out ... 12 - was too late. Cool. Srinath. |
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