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Message started by rl153 on 07/06/13 at 14:00:54

Title: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/06/13 at 14:00:54

i'm about to install my raptor petcock.i bought the 5/32 rubber vacuum caps.Will they really fit,they look so small?Also to hold the vacuum caps on,can i use permetex gasket sealer?another question ,if i use a screw and gasket sealer,should the screw fit tight, a sheet metal screw ,or say a brass machine screw? if the screw isn't that tight ,the gasket sealer will hold it in,right?thanks

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Dave on 07/06/13 at 14:37:53

Just use a rubber cap, and put a spare in the took kit.  No reason to use sealer or screws.......the caps work just fine.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Greg on 07/06/13 at 17:25:10


373E2D32353E6A6962625B0 wrote:
i'm about to install my raptor petcock.i bought the 5/32 rubber vacuum caps.Will they really fit,they look so small?Also to hold the vacuum caps on,can i use permetex gasket sealer?another question ,if i use a screw and gasket sealer,should the screw fit tight, a sheet metal screw ,or say a brass machine screw? if the screw isn't that tight ,the gasket sealer will hold it in,right?thanks


I use a 3/16" cap. It fits well. They appear to rot quickly so keep a spare or 2. I replaced mine with a 7/32" in a pinch. Well, that pinch has 1000 miles on it and it seems to be fine. One day I will remember to put my newly purchased 3/16" one on.  :-[

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/06/13 at 18:41:43

Am I going to have a hard time trying to get the 5/32 on ,or should I take it back and get the 3/16? I haven't opened them yet.Thanks for your answers.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Greg on 07/07/13 at 07:03:57


7970637C7B7024272C2C150 wrote:
Am I going to have a hard time trying to get the 5/32 on ,or should I take it back and get the 3/16? I haven't opened them yet.Thanks for your answers.

I don't know. 5/32 is 2.5/16. Or 3/16 is 6/32, however you wish to view it. It is close to what I use. I know I only pay a couple dollars for a fistful of sizes here so I imagine you didn't pay much. Give them a shot. If it is too tight, spray a little WD40 in it and try again. If it still won't go, toss them in the tool box, don't buy a coffee tomorrow, and you came out even. :)

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/07/13 at 07:31:37

Thanks Greg!

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by WD on 07/07/13 at 09:37:21

The little red vent cap off a new battery is the perfect size, ask your local bike shop to save them for you. I assume you are talking about the vacuum port on the carb casting?

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/07/13 at 13:10:51

Yeah, the vacuum port cap. I tried to get 3/16, but all they had were real long . I think I can use the 5/32 size, they recommend it in the tech section.Thanks.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Pine on 07/07/13 at 13:47:38

I doubled up and used a zip tie. rubber cap + zip tie .. really tiny one.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/07/13 at 15:47:17

that seems like a good idea.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/08/13 at 14:15:48

I installed the raptor petcock,the bike runs better,plus it doesn't stall anymore. The 5/32 caps fit good,no problem.For a minute I thought I'd have to take the tank off to remove the original petcock,but with a little manuvering it came out.I had to adjust my Idle down a little. Not a big deal job,but pretty good for me.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/13 at 15:40:36

your abilities will increase. youll be forced to learn new things, youll get a tool collection going, youll have fun & gain abilities & confidence.
& youll get dirty!

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by WD on 07/08/13 at 15:42:58

Now you can move on to cutting it up and making the bike fit you properly...


Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Greg on 07/08/13 at 15:47:23


434A5946414A1E1D16162F0 wrote:
I installed the raptor petcock,the bike runs better,plus it doesn't stall anymore. The 5/32 caps fit good,no problem.For a minute I thought I'd have to take the tank off to remove the original petcock,but with a little manuvering it came out.I had to adjust my Idle down a little. Not a big deal job,but pretty good for me.

Good for you! It feels good to do this stuff ourselves. Especially when we learn as we go.

I also noticed my bike ran better and I had to reduce the idle speed when I changed mine.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/08/13 at 16:16:21

thanks greg

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/08/13 at 16:26:52

JOG,WD, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where some of you are.I'm totally dreading attempting,the tensioner,or adjusting the valves. I change my oil,put on a fork brace,and new battlery.I just couldn't take messing up the  bike seriously.Right now it's running good ,and only has 5,500 mi on it.2005..This forum is awsome.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/13 at 17:16:11

by the time its your turn, youll have seen newbies come in & get walked thru things they didnt believe they could do. i was terrified. i bought new just so i could have a warranty. if i knew then what i do now, i woulda bought used. yes, ive always had tools, done loads of waterpumps, starters, body work, but never messed with a bike, or valves, or cam chains,, some carbs, but i didnt know hoot,,owning that bike has been really good for me. i know a lot more now. this site is an absolute gold mine

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Pine on 07/09/13 at 06:28:58


0D0417080F0450535858610 wrote:
JOG,WD, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where some of you are.I'm totally dreading attempting,the tensioner,or adjusting the valves. I change my oil,put on a fork brace,and new battlery.I just couldn't take messing up the  bike seriously.Right now it's running good ,and only has 5,500 mi on it.2005..This forum is awsome.


Sweet!!!!

My 2003 has 5527 miles on it. It had 450 when I bought it last year. I am right there with you. Everything scares me... I paid to have the carb done (mostly so someone else would loosen the screws) and do the valve adjustment. But I plan on taking on more... bit by bit.


Title: Re: petcock question
Post by WD on 07/09/13 at 08:50:28


6A63706F686337343F3F060 wrote:
JOG,WD, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where some of you are.I'm totally dreading attempting,the tensioner,or adjusting the valves. I change my oil,put on a fork brace,and new battlery.I just couldn't take messing up the  bike seriously.Right now it's running good ,and only has 5,500 mi on it.2005..This forum is awsome.


I've been riding and wrenching on cruisers for 26 years this month. But, I've been dealing with street rods, race cars and antique trucks for 37 years... started as soon as I could sit on the fender and reach the distributor of a 1960 Dodge 1/2 ton with poly 318, and sit on the core support of a 1973 F100 and do the same.

Vehicles are just collections of metal, plastic rubber, paint and hardware. Noting to be worried about, parts can be fixed and/or replaced.

Can I do engine work, yes... Don't like to, but I can. Same with electrical, I can rewire an antique truck in my sleep, but the system on the Savage is beyond my comprehension level (where is the ignition plate, the points operated voltage regulator, the generator)...

Find yourself a cheap, basically hunk of scrap metal type cheap, CB or KZ twin that needs everything, and practice, practice practice... No resale value (just like a modified Savage), the aftermarket has lost interest (just like a Savage, except for CBs), have a neighborhood teen help and at the end of it, give him (or her) the bike.

That's how I learned, summer apprenticeship at the local Hell's Angels shop when I was 14/15. At the end of the summer, I had a 1936 EL chopper, completely rebuilt from the ground up. W/O that experience, I probably wouldn't still be riding (occasionally, since my current bikes are all heaps).

Something like this would be about perfect to learn with, the engine is locked up tighter than a nun's thighs...  ::)
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Tennessee/Tracker2_zps51bff5aa.jpg

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by wambr on 07/09/13 at 08:51:54


4D5E1A0 wrote:
The little red vent cap off a new battery is the perfect size, ask your local bike shop to save them for you. I assume you are talking about the vacuum port on the carb casting?

Yes this is a good way to fit...but, unfortunately, these caps are not very durable..

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by WD on 07/09/13 at 08:53:15

5 years on average with the vent caps. Good enough.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by wambr on 07/09/13 at 09:13:56

and I have served for only about a month... I found a cheap access.. cut a piece of the ventilation tube(battery) , set fire to a lighter one end and squeezed. to be quite decent cap, perfectly suitable size

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Greg on 07/09/13 at 09:25:24

I buy the vacuum caps at Autozone and they last about a year before they are too cracked to stop the air from getting sucked up. I have the same problem with my fuel line. I bought fuel injection hose this time. It may last longer. As far as the vacuum caps, I have spares now.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by WD on 07/09/13 at 10:13:31

Get silicone fuel line. Pep Boys should have it, unfortunately, that chain isn't in the Memphis area anymore, and the local tuner car shop sucks.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by rl153 on 07/09/13 at 12:12:23

I know this info is on the site somewhere ,but the stock fuel line is 5/16. It seems someone said the raptor petcock port is 1/4 ". Is that right? Mine seemed to fit pretty snug ,no leaks. Is the stock clamp sufficient? Also, when storing the bike for the winter with the raptor petcock, should you just add stable and forget it, or turn the petcock to off ,and let the motor run the gas  out ? Thanks!

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by Greg on 07/09/13 at 12:28:18

I bought 1/4" fuel line. That is what I removed when I got the bike. I assume that is the correct size. It was snug as heck going on the Raptor but fit well on the carb.

As far as storage, someone else will need to advise you on that. I ride in the winter. As long as the temps are in the double digits and there is no snow or ice on the ground, I am out at least once a week.

Title: Re: petcock question
Post by stinger on 07/10/13 at 01:28:16

I shoved a golf tee with superglue in mine. Still there!

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