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Title: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 07:57:34 if this has been covered please direct me to the post. I'm shopping and after all my searches I'm down to one canidate. I've owned many bikes over the years, first bike was a 1959 triumph bonneville in 1959 at the tender age of 17 now at the not so tender age of 71 I've found that just craigs list alone will give me many options as a new one is over budget for me, my question on used one is there years that I should be looking at? I read one post about 4 and 5 speed transmissions. got me thinking that there were no doubt other up grades by years. I've found some low mile mid 90's thru 2007 high mile all in the $2000-2800 price range. what should I be looking for. I can't wait to get my hands dirty with all the info on this board heres my first bike[img][/img] |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by Dave on 07/04/13 at 08:22:54 There have been some minor upgrades over the years. Pre - 95 bikes don't have a torque limiter in the starter gears, and this can be a problem if the engine comes up on compression and tries to turn the starter backwards. They can be updated if you get one cheap enough to make the change worthwhile. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1288911670 At some point the rear fender side rails lost the ability to have a back rest installed....but you can get the earlier ones fairly easily if you want to add them to a later bike. In 2004 the handlebar controls were updated to include "emergency flashers"....and this may also be the same year a "passing light" switch was added - but I am not sure about that. The newer you can afford the better in some respects, as rubber parts do deteriorate over time. Do a search about the rubber head plug......an oil leak at the top of the engine is the thing to look for. It is not too hard to fix.....and a lot of bikes are sold cheaply as the owner thinks the head gasket has failed......but we have not ever seen a head gasket fail yet. If you have mechanical skills this is about a 5 -6 hour repair the first time you do it as part of it is the learning......the next time it will go faster. |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 09:30:31 Thanks Dave so no major difference over the years.. I never have been able to leave things alone.. |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by Borracho on 07/04/13 at 11:22:47 I like that photo. Sweet Triumph, surrounded by chicks. |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by Charon on 07/04/13 at 11:32:29 "Upgrade" and "Change" are not always synonymous. Removing the sissy bar is a change, but not an upgrade. Adding a flash-to-pass switch (which turns on the high beam if it isn't already on) may be an upgrade. The four-way flashers seem like an upgrade, except they only work when the ignition is on. Changing the cylinder finish from natural to black, then back to natural is a change. The annual paint color change is an upgrade if you like the new color better; a downgrade if you dislike it. |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by Serowbot on 07/04/13 at 11:45:14 I read somewhere, that sometime in the early 2000's they went to a better cylinder coating... Don't remember the details... maybe around 01' to 03'... Maybe when the engine went black.... but, I like the look of the silver... :P... |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by 87 savage on 07/04/13 at 17:15:37 Hi Noname, 86-95 4 speed. 96 and on, 5 speed. 86-2004 is a Savage, 2005 on is a Boulevard S40 |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 21:08:02 656C6F7D7039393E090 wrote:
Those young chicks are all about 70. Now lol. Those good times for street racing and partying. Went in the navy Feb 1960 and everything change while out of the states |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 21:19:14 78535A4954553B0 wrote:
25 years without a cam , head, valves, compression changes tells me a lot about the base engine, adding an extra gear is a change. I'm from a time when Matchless/AJS, BSA Goldstar, Norton all had 500 lungers that ruled.on the. Race tracks. So I'm confident that I can make a 650 that will keep a smile on my face |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 21:30:29 4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Well I will shop later models the starter was good info. headlights flashing wouldn't keep me up at night . Piston and cam changes, chain and sprokets so I can mess with gear ratios. Does anyone mess with the head and valves? |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/04/13 at 21:33:41 : 4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Well I will shop later models the starter was good info. headlights flashing wouldn't keep me up at night . Piston and cam changes, chain and sprokets so I can mess with gear ratios. Does anyone mess with the head and valves? |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by WD on 07/04/13 at 21:47:32 Talk to Lancer, he's the hook up for hot cams, better clutch components, better cables and hoses, carburetor jets... And Verslagen 1 is THE source for a cam chain tensioner that won't fail at 1/2 the chain life and destroy the engine 9 times out of 10 (yes, the stock part really IS that bad)... Now, the Savage has a very weak oil pump, very poorly made cam chain tensioner, no actual bearings for the camshaft (rides in the lower head casting and is capped by the upper head casting), and some have atrociously bad electrical parts (few and far between, but out there, think Lucas on angel dust)... On the whole though, pretty decent for 1970s technology. It's no Matchless G50, but... it doesn't have to be. Nice Trumpet by the way. 8-) |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/05/13 at 11:56:05 1B084C0 wrote:
Thanks WD nice try but you can't scare me, I've owned several British bikes lol I've never owned a single but have ridden most brit 500's . Can't wait to get my hands on a savage. I build and work on a lot classic and hot rod cars. And see this 650 savage as a retro hot rod. I'm pretty good at modifing things to the point they are not reliable but fun when they run ;D |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 17:04:09 Not trying to scare you, just some items that tend to get brushed aside on the forum. I've had my 1998 since it was new. Have had and gotten rid of in the same time frame: 450 Rebel (Lisa killed it), Kawasaki VN800A (blew the bottom end apart, too many full throttle runs on a seriously hopped up engine), Kawasaki VN800B a.k.a. Classic (terrible handling and the steering head bearing locked up on me, in a turn, broke me), 2 1964 Bonneville T120C 650s, a Rickman-Zundapp 125, and a 1957 Panhead FL in a Knucklehead EL chassis (needed about $28K in parts and work, f*** that). My Savage is pretty much driveway art, electrical problems. I'm building a 1963 Honda CL72 (250 Scrambler) that was turned into a TT bike in the late 60s or early 70s, ran (kind of, occasionally, if it wanted to) when I got it, the engine is now locked up tighter than a nun's knees... :o I'm kinda rough on bikes, I broke my BMW R51... in half... ::) Old vehicles? I'm getting ready to bore/stroke a 230 L6, add a dual intake, headers, 12v w/alternator conversion to my 1949 Dodge truck lowrider/kustom/bikehauler project. And drag my "Cal Look" 72 VW Super Beetle out of the barn and fix it back up. The 95 Outback is broken, the 94 Ranger snapped it's clutch master in half this afternoon (cheap piece of crap, only lasted 208K miles)... |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/05/13 at 17:45:38 1D0E4A0 wrote:
I appreciate your input. More I learn the better equipped I am when a problem comes. Up. Sounds like your not running out of things to do I quit racing oct. 6 1974 took me 2 years to learn how to walk again. Have a knee that only bend my knee a few degrees can't get on the pegs of a standard bike or crotch rocket. Raising the seat and forward controls will fit just fine |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 18:02:40 You quit racing when I was 2... ::) Only reason I have the 63 Honda is it was given to me in 2007 to make a sign out of. Just for "fun" a dribbled some gas into the carbs, fed it some ether, and gave it a kick... it fired off. My Dad saw it in my yard in 2010, turns out the last bike he rode in 1964 or 65 before he went in the Army was his friend's CL72. Said friend got killed in 'Nam, so, in a round about way, I guess I'm building it for him. :-? I'm over 6' tall, a CL72 is a cramped ride, especially since I've needed a cane off and on since 2/02 (destroyed part of my lumbar spine). I'm actually under medical orders to never ride again. I neither like or trust doctors, so... |
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Title: Re: savage/s-40 up grades by years Post by noname on 07/05/13 at 18:28:33 6A793D0 wrote:
O sounds like we think alike, I was in traction for 70 days. Dr. Told my wife I may never walk again but for certain I could never work again . Took me two years to walk four month later I went back to work. 39 years since my accident and I still work every day. I only go to the Dr if they come with an ambulance :P |
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