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Message started by savagebob on 07/01/13 at 14:07:13

Title: Headlight
Post by savagebob on 07/01/13 at 14:07:13

Is there any sort of aftermarket or replacement headlight which is well suited to the savage?

I have one I was going to use but it doesn't have any adjustments for angle and it's also bottom mount and doesn't look like it's going to mount easily.

Just wondered if there way anything people are aware of which mounts up easily as an improvement?

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Demin on 07/01/13 at 16:05:46

If you drill a hole in the bottom tree,you can run any aftermarket Harley light.
http://p1.bikepics.com/2009/08/08/bikepics-1749158-800.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Gyrobob on 07/01/13 at 16:59:41

Use the stock headlight shell and reflector, with an HID unit installed.  Three times the brightness with half the electrical load, eh?

I threw in the "eh" because today is Canada day in the US.

edited 4 July: Don't do this.  It's illegal because it makes WAY too much glare.  If you want HID, get the whole headlight as a DOT-approved unit.  LED headlights are an option now too.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by ToesNose on 07/01/13 at 18:40:18


18262D303D303D5F0 wrote:
I threw in the "eh" because today is Canada day in the US.



Nice touch  ;)

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Paladin. on 07/01/13 at 18:42:16


617364737577707D70120 wrote:
... it's also bottom mount and doesn't look like it's going to mount easily....
I used four pieces of 2" x 1.5" aluminum angle, drilled for eight small nuts and bolts, two holes down to match the triple tree, one up to mount the headlight.  Worked Jes' Fine!

http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/headlight2.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by savagebob on 07/01/13 at 19:49:39

Dont really fancy drilling a bit hole in the tree.. I'd probably ruin it somehow.

I could probably whip up a bracket like this tho aye (we say aye in NZ not eh like Canada)

http://s23.postimg.org/n571w7gjf/bracket.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Cloudy on 07/01/13 at 20:52:44


120017000604030E03610 wrote:
Dont really fancy drilling a bit hole in the tree.. I'd probably ruin it somehow.

I could probably whip up a bracket like this tho aye (we say aye in NZ not eh like Canada)

http://s23.postimg.org/n571w7gjf/bracket.jpg



Yea Na might work aye?  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/01/13 at 21:09:06

That'll do the job. But you'd be 1000x happier with a traditional sidemount headlight, they can be rough aimed tighter than most bottom mounts will fine adjust.

I run a 7" Bates/Lucas replica sidemount. My Savage will never run a bottom mount again. Looks better, is high mounted, works better, allows room under the headlight shell for a proper tool roll which completely hides the ugly as a shaved dog's butt lower triple tree... oh, and will accept Triumph/Honda front signals to get rid of the less than aesthetically pleasing stock units (my bike is a 1998, really ugly/oversized signals).

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by savagebob on 07/01/13 at 21:27:55

hmmm.. good point..

perhaps something like this

http://s18.postimg.org/5j3luhkmx/248723365.jpg

mounted with fork brackets?

http://s22.postimg.org/xfgcxwvkx/238058973_full.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/01/13 at 22:22:22

Correct...

Like so:http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Savage/pokeydone1_zps4f01ca6c.jpg

Pic is a few years/incarnations old... haven't lived in that state in 2+ years.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by ToesNose on 07/02/13 at 04:18:37

I just used an old fire extinguisher wall mount LOL   :D

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/bcrx2/IMG_3859_zps95172550.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by paulmarshall on 07/02/13 at 13:04:07


2D3F283F393B3C313C5E0 wrote:
hmmm.. good point..

perhaps something like this

http://s18.postimg.org/5j3luhkmx/248723365.jpg

mounted with fork brackets?

http://s22.postimg.org/xfgcxwvkx/238058973_full.jpg

That looks cool mate.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Greg on 07/02/13 at 13:41:42

When you swap out the headlight, do all the connections for the turn signals go in the new housing?

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/02/13 at 19:22:24

If you want them too and the slot in the back of the bucket is large enough. Mine do not, harness is midway through a massive reroute, shorten, control box delete. Which reminds me, I need to order some asphalt wire looming and some braided wire...

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by stinger on 07/03/13 at 01:23:51

WD, What make is that green station wagon by the fence?

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by RobSchneider on 07/03/13 at 03:34:13

I drilled a hole as well, works fine.
You can also use a bracket, maybe custom made?

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Paladin. on 07/03/13 at 09:16:40


6B6C71767F7D6A180 wrote:
WD, What make is that green station wagon by the fence?

A 1953-1959 English Ford Anglia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia).

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/03/13 at 09:31:32


4D7C717C7974731D0 wrote:
[quote author=6B6C71767F7D6A180 link=1372712833/0#14 date=1372839831]WD, What make is that green station wagon by the fence?

A 1953-1959 English Ford Anglia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia).[/quote]

Close Paladin, it's actually a 1954 Squire. 2 door 4 seater that came stock with an 8 horsepower 4 cylinder. The green one in the pic ran a 1974 (one year only) Datsun 210 1.4L engine block and 4 speed transmission, with a head off a later model 1.2L engine for a compression bump. Powertrain courtesy of a Hollywood studio lot garage, it was an old prop car my stepson found on a used lot in WA. Supposed to have been a background car in the 2nd Austin Powers movie when the car was still tan or light blue. Never watched the movie, can't confirm or deny its presence.

Stepson still had the car out in WA when Lisa and I moved back to TN. He's since moved back to MS, no idea what he did with the car (probably gave it away, it was a heap).


Title: Re: Headlight
Post by paulmarshall on 07/03/13 at 12:38:11


7E7964636A687F0D0 wrote:
WD, What make is that green station wagon by the fence?

Looks like a old Ford Prefect.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by strang on 07/03/13 at 15:50:31

I been trying to swap out my headlight this week as the stock one is starting to split. Plastic backing Suzuki? shame on you.
Anyway to save someone greif - those chrome universal headlight brackets didn't fit the 38mm forks at all and are designed for slimmer forks me thinks. I'm actually gonna go back to a bottom mount cause I eventually found some side mount brackets and well... sorry but it looked wrong to me.
I am thinking of messin with this bracket:
http://edmundson-electrical.voltilink.co.uk/catalogue.jsp?product_id=SB515&brand=LEU&mode=details&catalogType=P
will have to come up with something for getting an angle going on though.
This one's got me salivating:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l432/mike_odonovan/555951e4-554f-42de-9db4-3f452f9f0163.jpg (http://s330.photobucket.com/user/mike_odonovan/media/555951e4-554f-42de-9db4-3f452f9f0163.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by strang on 07/03/13 at 16:10:19

actually found this on another forum just now.
basically the bigger hole is from the bottom mount of new headlight and it hangs over the front edge of the bottom tree so that the bolt going through is clear. Then you just bolt the back two holes onto the stock mount area.
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l432/mike_odonovan/f5d0763e-fdf3-4123-829a-8fa177f80e35.jpg (http://s330.photobucket.com/user/mike_odonovan/media/f5d0763e-fdf3-4123-829a-8fa177f80e35.jpg.html)
Clever. Some people are much smarter than me  :P

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Dave on 07/05/13 at 05:36:51

Here is a rather fancy and expensive adapter for the headlight mount.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HM2-Headlight-MOUNT-Suzuki-S40-M50-B95-Boulevard-VZ800-VZ1600-Marauder-800-1600-/120849379940?hash=item1c232f3264&vxp=mtr#ht_3895wt_917

I wonder if this kind of adapter doesn't push the headlight out front too far?

An adapter could be made out of an aluminum block that would have a stud mounted much closer to the existing holes, and just a bit taller.  

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Greg on 07/05/13 at 06:02:17

Question about side mount and fork brackets. How do they mount straight if the headlight is wider or narrower? Do we need a specific diameter bucket or specific bracket?

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 07:40:50

Let me find my camera. My sidemount brackets will work on 33-39mm fork tubes based on the mounting slot chosen, and I set them as wide as possible and used aluminum spacers for the 7" bucket... Emgo brackets and Emgo bucket.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by Paladin. on 07/05/13 at 13:04:41


1D262B3C2D213A3C272F223D4E0 wrote:
Here is a rather fancy and expensive adapter for the headlight mount.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HM2-Headlight-MOUNT-Suzuki-S40-M50-B95-Boulevard-VZ800-VZ1600-Marauder-800-1600-/120849379940?hash=item1c232f3264&vxp=mtr#ht_3895wt_917

I wonder if this kind of adapter doesn't push the headlight out front too far?

An adapter could be made out of an aluminum block that would have a stud mounted much closer to the existing holes, and just a bit taller.  

Precisely:
First mount, re-mount:
http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/7inch-headlight.jpghttp://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/headlight2.jpg
That flat mount will have the headlight poking out forward, same as my first attempt.  I held the light and eyeballed where I wanted it placed, and made an adapter to mount it correctly.

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by strang on 07/05/13 at 15:26:45

I used a 7 inch headlight and there was quite a gap to be made up to fit the fork mounted brackets. I gave up on this route but if you want to go down this road I'd go for the largest headlight you can get and as has been stated, maybe look at a couple of spacers to take up the slack. Our forks are quite wide.  ;D

Title: Re: Headlight
Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 17:10:45


3E393F2C232A4D0 wrote:
I used a 7 inch headlight and there was quite a gap to be made up to fit the fork mounted brackets. I gave up on this route but if you want to go down this road I'd go for the largest headlight you can get and as has been stated, maybe look at a couple of spacers to take up the slack. Our forks are quite wide.  ;D


Too wide, bike should have shipped with 35mm Ironhead narrow glide type forks. Can't even see the gas tank on mine from a head on view, and the tank is bright orange...  ;D

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